So, about that course creator.

[Voodoovaj]

I got the impression it was a joke.

Knowing the truth would require knowledge of the original publishing agreement. More often than not, the publisher gets ownership of the I.P.and all tech that goes with it. I'm thinking this is not the reason. Also, it wouldn't be a "good" reason in the eyes of the community, because no one outside of the two parties in litigation would really care about it.

I know where Famine is coming from. Sony is VERY (as in VERY VERY) protective of their properties. I remember a SCEA exec that was fired because his kid posted a video of him playing the PS2 before it officially launched.

All that said, I have found that communication is the BEST course of action. Lack of information is immediately construed as a bad sign. It might be a cultural thing (saving face and all that).

Fingers crossed that it actually IS a good reason.

 

[omgitsbees]

The track creator for Gran Turismo 6 as it has been explained officially, sounds pretty exciting. A lot of people enjoyed the track creator for Gran Turismo 5 as well. So it's understandable that there is a lot of enthusiasm to want to see it finally implemented in GT6. The nature of game development means that sometimes things do not go as planned and features get cut or take much longer then expected. The heist mode in Grand Theft Auto Online was similar.

I don't know what we can do about the long wait other then continue to be patient.

 

[nocturnalgrey]

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I don't really know you but I picture Agent Smith from the Matrix Trilogy after I read your post.

On a serious note, thanks for the "explanation".

 

[TJC_69]

I got the impression it was a joke.

Maybe , wasn't sure either way as I couldn't find hard evidence to back it up , and thought I would bring it in for discussion .

NeoGaf users seem to have to speculate as much as we do 👍

 

[jimipitbull]

Maybe , wasn't sure either way as I couldn't find hard evidence to back it up , and thought I would bring it in for discussion .

NeoGaf users seem to have to speculate as much as we do 👍

How would the Modnation developers know what code is used, when it hasn't been released yet?

 

[TJC_69]

How would the Modnation developers know what code is used, when it hasn't been released yet?

No idea .... Kaz has always had admiration for the one in MN Racers though .

But Kaz had this to say about the feature in the French interview -

Kaz- It's still in progress, but it takes us more work than expected

Maybe they did overreach after all ?

And yup , still no expected timeframe .

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...unori-yamauchi-or-gilles-vidal.329774/page-10

 

[RACECAR]

I know people are anxious for answer but at the end of the day, @Famine appears to be in the most awkward (and I imagine uncomfortable) position of an NDA ever seen (or least, that's the closest thing I can associate this with).

I can see why Jordan and the mods refrain from posting hints as much as possible

Yeah, people will react to every little thing possible, even if its some fan made render that's meaningless.

@Famine Drops mic

.....But he's not a rapper

Word.

I read it all like this:

Doesn't care what others are doing so another sim-cade grind fest inbound, overshoot with CM and PS3 can't cope, GT7 trailer at E3 confirmed, nothing else for GT6, no new cars for GT6 apart Nissans for GTA next year, no new tracks, Pikes Peak in GT7, FIA Champ on GT6 this year

Some are rather wild guesses but let's see what happens.

Some?

 

[Imari]

I don't think it's too much to ask to trust the word of the administrator of the largest fansite when it comes to this topic...

I can appreciate what you're trying to do, but it doesn't really enlighten anyone any. It's one more person saying what Kaz has been saying since before release, that they're working on it and it's nearly ready.

To be honest, I trust your word on it more than I trust Kaz at the moment, but Kaz isn't an idiot. He wouldn't have said what he said when he announced it was nearly ready for release, or when he announced the beta without good reason. And yet plans changed, and here we are.

You wouldn't say what you've said in this thread without good reason, but without knowing what those reasons are it's impossible for someone external to judge whether things are likely to change again. I have little doubt that you and Kaz are sincere in what you say, but Polyphony has a bit of a track record for not sticking to announcements.

It's not really about not trusting you. I can accept that you're providing what information you can without damaging relationships that are important to this site. I don't trust Polyphony not to change their tune and render your information and interpretation of it moot.

Even Jordan has been caught out by this before.

 

[RacerPaul]

I'm sure many of you have privately reached the conclusion that the course maker isn't coming. At all

PD should just admit they bit off more than they could chew, apologise and then get on with stuff they can do

 

[Streeto]

I'm sure many of you have privately reached the conclusion that the course maker isn't coming. At all

PD should just admit they bit off more than they could chew, apologise and then get on with stuff they can do

Completely different story according to the admin of this site, the course maker is still coming, and apparently the delay is not because of technical restrictions. We aren't allowed to know the reason though, which I can only imagine is something to do with GT7.

I'll trust somebody who's talked to Kaz face to face rather than some guy called @RacerPaul

 

[cjr3559]

I'm sure many of you have privately reached the conclusion that the course maker isn't coming. At all

PD should just admit they bit off more than they could chew, apologise and then get on with stuff they can do

Not sure if you read the admin's posts about this? He's reiterated multiple times the CM is coming. This thread is becoming a pointless circular exercise of insubstantiated denial.

(unwatch)

 

[RacerPaul]

I envy your optimism, it shows good character

 

[Streeto]

I envy your optimism, it shows good character

It's not optimism fella, it's the acknowledgement of fact.

 

[RacerPaul]

It's not optimism fella, it's the acknowledgement of fact.

Is it? I must admit I'm way behind the times when it comes to GT. Do tell, what date will it arrive?

 

[Streeto]

Is it? I must admit I'm way behind the times when it comes to GT. Do tell, what date will it arrive?

Who said we had a date? You must be very far behind if you think PD give out dates!

Your smartypants pessimism puts a lot of brown stinky stuff all over your character.

 

[mister dog]

Indeed, they will throw it in there at the end, just so they can't be accused of false advertising.

 

[TJC_69]

Completely different story according to the admin of this site, the course maker is still coming, and apparently the delay is not because of technical restrictions. We aren't allowed to know the reason though, which I can only imagine is something to do with GT7.

I'll trust somebody who's talked to Kaz face to face rather than some guy called @RacerPaul

And i'll requote the man himself -

Kaz- It's still in progress, but it takes us more work than expected

When something is still in progress -

Dictionary.com - in progress, going on; under way; being done;

And let's go to wikipedia for this one -

Kaz- But it takes us more work than expected

Wikipedia - Planning Fallacy - The planning fallacy, first proposed by Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky in 1979, is a phenomenon in which predictions about how much time will be needed to complete a future task display an optimistic bias (underestimate the time needed). This phenomenon occurs regardless of the individual's knowledge that past tasks of a similar nature have taken longer to complete than generally planned

Don't know about you , but in laymans terms that means that means to me it's not finished , and they've underestimated the timescale and task of what they actually want to create . Which has been proposed here and then stated it's not the case .

I think @Imari's post hit the nail on the head . What if the information the mod team are aware of is just simply not the case ?

Because the words from Mr Kaz himself plainly state a different picture entirely .

👍

 

[Streeto]

Just because it took longer than expected does not mean it's not coming @TJC_69 and as for the other stuff, well, we all know how loosely accurate translator-san can be.

 

[TJC_69]

Just because it took longer than expected does not mean it's not coming @TJC_69 and as for the other stuff, well, we all know how loosely accurate translator-san can be.

Please quote me anywhere in this thread where I said it wasn't coming .

As you kindly said to another member -

Streeto - I'll trust somebody who's talked to Kaz face to face rather than some guy called @Streeto

👍

 

[Streeto]

Please quote me anywhere in this thread where I said it wasn't coming .

As you kindly said to another member -

Wow, you have a stick up your 🤬 don't you?

Sorry, I figured you were on the same boat as @RacerPaul

My bad, I guess.

 

[TJC_69]

Wow, you have a stick up your 🤬 don't you?

Sorry, I figured you were on the same boat as @RacerPaul

My bad, I guess.

Not at all . You said apparently the delay is not because of technical restrictions

I'm suggesting that it actually is , therefore it remains unfinished at this moment in time

 

[RacerPaul]

Your smartypants pessimism puts a lot of brown stinky stuff all over your character

Best line I've seen on this forum for quite some time. Hat-tip to ya

 

[Streeto]

Not at all . You said apparently the delay is not because of technical restrictions

I'm suggesting that it actually is , therefore it remains unfinished at this moment in time

It's a good theory, but I'll start again.

I'm going by the words of an admin, just because it's not released yet doesn't mean it's down to technical restrictions, and @Famine confirmed this.

For example, R*'s excuse for the heists update was roughly; They built it up and didn't quite like how it looked so they started from scratch all over again, potentially doubling the waiting period. Not a technical restriction.

Wouldn't it be nice if we had the actual reason, so all this back and forth "my opinion is better than yours" speculative hair-pulling doesn't have to happen.

 

[TJC_69]

It's a good theory, but I'll start again.

I'm going by the words of an admin, just because it's not released yet doesn't mean it's down to technical restrictions, and @Famine confirmed this.

For example, R*'s excuse for the heists update was roughly; They built it up and didn't quite like how it looked so they started from scratch all over again, potentially doubling the waiting period. Not a technical restriction.

Wouldn't it be nice if we had the actual reason, so all this back and forth "my opinion is better than yours" speculative hair-pulling doesn't have to happen.

I know where you are coming from , however , did you read Imari's post on the previous page ?

And I agree , I only want the reason . In some peoples eyes they will say we are not entitled to know but I strongly disagree .
A consumer buys a product , something is not complete with it yet , and as a consumer you should be notified to the reason .

It reminds me too well of the PSN hacking a few years ago . Keep them in the dark etc , they buy our products but it's not their business rubbish .

Absolute joke 👍

 

[Shahar]

I think we have the right to know why a product I brought with my money. If the game was free I had no problem.
Does Sony have a history of this obsessive secret holding stuff?

 

[tankuroded]

Daily reminder that developing things aren't as easy as it sounds - it could takes ages, without clear timeframe, to get things work to their standards.

 

[JoaoSilva]

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

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[DSkywalker01]

 

[eran0004]

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They're on a planet travelling near the speed of light?
Let's hope they don't hit a meteoroid.