So now we can "bribe our way to victory"? (PRICES REVEALED, SEE OP)

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Has it occurred to anyone that some people might not have the time to grind credits for the cars they want? Cause y'know, there are people out there with only a couple hours of free time and I'm willing to bet some of 'em would rather have fun than be stuck in "Grindfest Gran Turismo".
Some people already have a life in the form of a job (or more). Some people might not have as much free time as others. The credit packs are a good alternative for grinding because those people already "have a life".

With how GT5 is, at least in present time, it takes little time to acquire millions of credits. I don't really see grinding a thing anymore, especially with the multiplier and high payout seasonals.
 
With how GT5 is, at least in present time, it takes little time to acquire millions of credits. I don't really see grinding a thing anymore, especially with the multiplier and high payout seasonals.
The problem is that none of us know how GT6 will be in terms of credit grinding. I'm sure people will be able to determine if buying the credit packs are worth it on their own. If they just impulse buy, then it's more money for PD. This doesn't really hurt anyone.

To the people posing that all the unintelligent people will be in the fastest cars and crashing about and blah blah blah... have you recalled that room hosts can put restrictions on what cars can be run in a room? If someone's running in the same performance level car as you, what does it matter how long or short it took them to get that car? It doesn't.

To the people saying "Bring EXP back so you have to be a certain level to drive a certain car", has it occurred to you that level does not equal skill? I could make a brand new profile in GT5 and be level 1. Does that instantly make me a bad driver? Spoiler alert, the answer is no.

Manage your rooms properly and you'll find good racing. Kick the people who are dirty racers (unless that's what you're looking for) and find rooms that have your preference for PP and event style. Problem solved!
 
sunday cup 6 stars = 2 races, american cup 9 stars = 3 races, same for championship.
1 star = bronze, silver = 2 stars, gold = 3 stars.
8 races x @4k each is 32k credits. Plus the credits for winning the championship and cofee break and possible prize cars. Seasonal events are confirmed to continue. So you can expect time and drift trials.
 
8 races x @4k each is 32k credits. Plus the credits for winning the championship and cofee break and possible prize cars. Seasonal events are confirmed to continue. So you can expect time and drift trials.
The only payout we know of is ~2,700 or are we assuming gold pay outs consist of bronze+silver+gold?
 
I don't think this is a bad move at all. Racing games have been doing it for years, offering either quick start packs unlocking a range of cars early (hard in GT due to number) or beginner pack making the game shorter unlocking every thing straight away.

None of which you HAVE to buy and i never do.
 
Not everyone enjoys the game the same way you do. Just because online racing exists doesn't mean A-spec should just be negelected. I want to enjoy a good career mode before I even race online. And sometimes, I just want to sit back and enjoy the game itself instead of having to rely on other people to have a good time. There are a lot of us who enjoy the offline aspect of GT, because that's what the first four games were ever about.

Ok, granted. I get that. But in the context of this thread, would you say that adding the ability for someone else to purchase credits affects your enjoyment of A-Spec?

It doesn't mean that you cannot compete with a player who buys his cars and races them before he's learned to drive them. IRL I beat up on Porsche and Vette driver at the track all the time. They have better toys but I do not look at them as "not earning the right to drive them" as some in this forum have postured.

Exactly. And in offline mode, the only person you are competing with is yourself. P.S. I beat up on Porsche, Vette and GTR drivers all the time in my 140whp Miata. No better feeling than getting pointed by from a car with over 500hp. Anyone can buy a car, not everyone can drive one.
 
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I don't have the time to "grind credits", but why should I have to spend any more money? Shouldn't I get the "cars I want" through purchasing the game itself?
It's your choice to spend or not spend more money. If you don't want to spend more money, then play the game the way it was intended.

Where did I say need, by the way? I don't recall ever putting the word "need" in there anywhere.

Also, you do "get the cars you want" through purchasing the game. All content is already unlocked (car-wise), but you have to go get it.

Ok, granted. I get that. But in the context of this thread, would you say that adding the ability for someone else to purchase credits affects your enjoyment of A-Spec?
Exactly. And in offline mode, the only person you are competing with is yourself. P.S. I beat up on Porsche, Vette and GTR drivers all the time in my 140whp Miata. No better feeling than getting pointed by from a car with over 500hp. Anyone can buy a car, not everyone can drive one.
It's hard to say it much better than this. Why should I care whether someone spends money to have more credits? It doesn't affect the rooms I'll be going into since I only go into restricted rooms, and it doesn't affect my A-spec experience.
 
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I don't have the time to "grind credits", but why should I have to spend any more money? Shouldn't I get the "cars I want" through purchasing the game itself?
Yeah this makes no sense. if you dont want to grind for credits and you dont want to buy them then dont!
 
Which would you choose?

I can see why you want B in this case, but I'm saying you shouldn't be in that position in the first place. Online shouldn't be related to A-spec, except for the ability to import your A-spec tunings/current cars. Your big online celebration is about driving the cars more than showing off that you got a rare item, I would think.
 
I can see why you want B in this case, but I'm saying you shouldn't be in that position in the first place. Online shouldn't be related to A-spec, except for the ability to import your A-spec tunings/current cars. Your big online celebration is about driving the cars more than showing off that you got a rare item, I would think.

I see your point. A lot of games reward the hard core gamers with rare and unique items. World of Warcraft for example. I've just never thought of the GT series in that way. Gran Turismo rewards the hard core gamers with sick ... alien ... lap times achieved by driving clean and fast. It's about seat time. It's about intelligence and bravery. And it's about riding at the edge of disaster and holding it where others would falter. In other words, in GT, the rare item is YOU. If you can handle it, know what I mean? Cars don't mean anything. Lap times. Skill. That matters.
 
I see your point. A lot of games reward the hard core gamers with rare and unique items. World of Warcraft for example. I've just never thought of the GT series in that way. Gran Turismo rewards the hard core gamers with sick ... alien ... lap times achieved by driving clean and fast. It's about seat time. It's about intelligence and bravery. And it's about riding at the edge of disaster and holding it where others would falter. In other words, in GT, the rare item is YOU. If you can handle it, know what I mean? Cars don't mean anything. Lap times. Skill. That matters.
i see your point but considering the fact that GT is a car racing game, the cars definitely do matter.
 
The only payout we know of is ~2,700 or are we assuming gold pay outs consist of bronze+silver+gold?
Yes. Gold should be the combined total of each. Thats how the latest seasonal events work so thats what Im going by.
 
Buying game credits with real money, dumbest thing I have heard. If your that desperate for game credits, get a life.
This is literally the most flawed sentence ever.

So If you spend 1 hour playing, and buy 7 million credits, you need a life.
But if you spend 20 hours playing and get 7 million credits, you have a life.
 
Man, I meant to post this a lot earlier, this thread really blew up.

Here's a thread I made last year asking people about how they'd feel about something somewhat similar:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/would-you-pay-to-unlock-all-cars-immediately-poll.253796/

Seems as though popular consensus hasn't changed :)

I personally wouldn't mind it, as long as it's still possible to get credits playing them game just as effectively as it was in GT5. If they make it harder to earn credits through gameplay, I'm going to be pretty disappointed.
 
This is literally the most flawed sentence ever.

So If you spend 1 hour playing, and buy 7 million credits, you need a life.
But if you spend 20 hours playing and get 7 million credits, you have a life.
Thats a long time, what were you racing, sunday cup?

Didnt take me long to earn 20mill later on when i actually needed it. Why would you need that much at the start.
 
Thats a long time, what were you racing, sunday cup?

Didnt take me long to earn 20mill later on when i actually needed it. Why would you need that much at the start.
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The point went 30,000 ft above your head. Nevermind
 
This is literally the most flawed sentence ever.

So If you spend 1 hour playing, and buy 7 million credits, you need a life.
But if you spend 20 hours playing and get 7 million credits, you have a life.
You missed my point. Why would you need to buy credits, when you can just spend a little extra time in the game. It does not take long to rack up a lot of credits.
 
On a somewhat lighter note, they finally managed to mimic the current direction of Motorsports.
Now if they would only get some decals from Oil companies, tourism and a web hosting site, then we'd be set.
 
Why are you complaining so much? Nobody forces you to buy in game money. You can play the game and unlock everything without paying anything extra. Most online race lobbies have a PP limit so I dont see how you can "bribe your way to victory" unless you mean singleplayer. But then, why does that even bother you? Maybe some people have jobs/family/school and they cant play for hours and hours to unlock the cars they want to drive. This is a great way for them to be able to join the higher PP online races, for example.

And this is a great way to give PD a bigger budget so they can make more and better updates for GT6 (for free) and keep updating the seasonal events like they've done in GT5. It's also obviously going to make GT7 better.

I don't really see anything negative in this. It's not going to be a pay-to-win game. It's a win-win situation really.
 
Man, I meant to post this a lot earlier, this thread really blew up.

Here's a thread I made last year asking people about how they'd feel about something somewhat similar:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/would-you-pay-to-unlock-all-cars-immediately-poll.253796/

Seems as though popular consensus hasn't changed :)

I personally wouldn't mind it, as long as it's still possible to get credits playing them game just as effectively as it was in GT5. If they make it harder to earn credits through gameplay, I'm going to be pretty disappointed.
I'd rather pd just put the effort in to career mode and me make it enjoyable enough that would make people want to play it and not find it a choir to do and make the payouts sensible aswell as gifting you cars you would need for the following race, Maybe people wouldnt want extra credits then because they will be too preocupied enjoying the game offline collecting cars through progression


EDIT: Again i reiterate why do we have to pay? You have payed real money already for the game, why not give those who want all cars asap an option to own all cars without paying real money, Its not like giving you dlc for free something they have spent time on, they are charging you for something the need not charge you and something they shouldnt be charging you for, They are literally asking you to throw free money at them which its clear many will be happy to do so instead of saying hang on a minute thers no changing hands of service here, I think its a shoddy business model

And this is a great way to give PD a bigger budget so they can make more and better updates for GT6 (for free) and keep updating the seasonal events like they've done in GT5. It's also obviously going to make GT7 better.

I don't really see anything negative in this. It's not going to be a pay-to-win game. It's a win-win situation really.
Yea win win sure, They're gonna give you stuff for free that they have worked on but charge you money for things that is of no cost to them? The free stuff in gt5 was down to it being released in such a bad state that didnt warrant the initial purchase so had to be fixed
 
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I want to say I can't document this now, so treat it as speculation. If anyone can document it, please do. Thanks.

I honestly think that the insane payouts of seasonals will be decreased to a more reasonable level. I thought this even before the announcement to buying credits. IT is NOT part of a "money grab - forcing us to buy credit packs". It's a return to sanity in those payouts. Remember the start of GT5, before seasonals? We complained, but we grinded and survived it. We will again, but this time with seasonals, just more reasonable paying ones.

I read somewhere (see first sentence in this post - I do not remember where, but it was reputable) that we still will have to unlock "the next level" of cars and tracks. So unfortunately while experience is going away, cars are still classified by "Beginner, Amateur, Professional, etc." and you will have to get to that level before being able to buy those cars and race those tracks. APPARENLY.

Speculation, remember.

Does that make anyone feel better about newbies buying credits and thus skipping their way into cars they are nowhere ready for online?
Well, except the preorder bonus cars. Remember those?
 
I wouldn't call it "bribe our way to victory". It's actually great PD has added Micro-Transactions because not everyone who plays GT6 has all the time in the world to earn all the cars. So if they want to get the car(s) they want right now, they can, and that's great.
 
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