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- HamiltonMP427
So now we can "bribe our way to victory"? (PRICES REVEALED, SEE OP)
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- Johnnypenso
It would actually send more of a statement to PD for you to buy the game and then just not use the microtransaction function. The more people buy the game and don't use it, the bigger message it sends. If you don't buy the game and others like you don't, the pool of those with the game but not using MT's is smaller so it looks more popular by comparison.
Seismica
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I'm not trying to send a message though. I'm trying not to give them my money.
EDIT: They have information about which PSN members own GT5 but didn't buy GT6. That should be enough really, as they see I own GT5, GT5 Prologue and GT PSP, playing probably a combined 250-300 hours on those (Including buying DLC for GT5), and then I don't buy GT6. I think that's enough of a message.
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Havent been following this too closely but since reading up on Forza I'm looking for more info. Is PD/Sony just offering a shortcut to in game credits or is there more involved. Details seem sparse and I havent been through this whole thread. With what I've been reading with forza, they gimped the career progression path(no prize cars, lower prize payouts?). As much as I like the GT series, the later would give me serious pause to my purchase.
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Seismica
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There was already an issue with progression in GT as it was. GT5 required a huge amount of grinding to unlock races, and to be able to build our car collections. They needed to increase the rate of progression (Some people would even go as far as to say they should unlock all cars for arcade and online mode by default). I remember grinding a Ferrari seasonal event for almost 3 straight days to be able to afford one of the historic Le Mans racers, which is far too much, and certainly a long way from the ~8 rally event races I had to grind to afford Le Mans prototypes in GT4. The way to improve upon this is to make the cars easier to acquire by reducing their cost, not allowing us to buy them with real money.
Some people will want to wait, to consider the impact these micropayments will have. But for me it's a dealbreaker. It's a choice we as consumers have to make. I doubt the cars will be as expensive as in Forza 5, but anything more than £0.00 is too much for content we have already paid for.
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Been some time since I've played 5's career but thinking back I do remember grinding out a lot of b-spec races for some of the more valuable cars. Guess time has faded that unpleasant memory since Ive had a healthy credit count for some seasonal events since. Not sure I'll have the time or patience for that again and will be following this a bit closer to evaluate my preorder. Thanks
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Sorry, that makes no sense to me. Paying real money for the same thing I can get in game is cheating your wallet if anything.
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- GTP_Nismo
I think your definition of cheating is off.
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- ryandude2448
You don't have to pay anything extra to play it. You don't have to pay to geta competitive edge, either. You optionally pay to geta car or parts with less effort then another.
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- liampage123
Your wrong. You still work hard for the money that your going to spend on game credits. So how is that cheating?
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- thepatriots
I am sorry guys, but until the game comes out, this is all dribble drabble. Buying in game credits with real money does not "ruin" any game by itself, skewing the in game economy and game design to incentivize this, does. Until the game comes out or gets reviewed we do not know if this is the case.
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Not everyone has all the time in the world to grind around for money and cars. I work, have two kids and honeydews up the rear so when i comes to playing GT with the little time I have, I just wanna drive what I want. Not grind away for hours. Why waste time grinding when you can throw a few bucks around and just get what you want.
Cheating to me is someone using and aimbot in a FPS or maybe a driving bot.
Cheating to me is someone using and aimbot in a FPS or maybe a driving bot.
Considering there used to be cheat codes to get extra credits in some games, paying to get credits is rather similar to paying for a cheat code. It doesn't necessarily make it "cheating" in terms of gaining an unfair advantage over others -- everyone can buy credits, everyone can use available cheat codes -- but it's a fair comparison.
How about this -- why shouldn't PD allow players to get extra credits by entering "up up down down left right left right X O Start" or some such? I think the same arguments defending microtransaction credits apply -- no one is making you use it, it doesn't necessarily ruin online multiplayer just because unskilled players can have any car they want, some people don't want to spend the time playing through career mode, etc...
How about this -- why shouldn't PD allow players to get extra credits by entering "up up down down left right left right X O Start" or some such? I think the same arguments defending microtransaction credits apply -- no one is making you use it, it doesn't necessarily ruin online multiplayer just because unskilled players can have any car they want, some people don't want to spend the time playing through career mode, etc...
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- HamiltonMP427
Considering the numbers of games past and present that only needed a few order of buttons to allow users in game credits to buy things, this is practically the same thing yet you're paying for it instead of learning a sequence. I think the idea that someone is calling it cheating is what puts you off and making you guys a bit myopic. Theoretically it is the same thing.
How so, it's their prerogative? Could you explain why you think this?
Yeah you're not the only one, I have the same things (just 1 child instead) and I also have university work along with a job and a coordinating that schedule with my wife and kid so...
It's really going to boil down to how the regular in-game economy works. If it's like previous games in the series, then it won't be a problem for us "hardcore" GT-ers to simply not pay for credits, because it's not asking anything of us to run a 4-hour endurance race or ten-race series to get a boatload of cash.
What's going to be a problem is if the in-game economy is crippled to the point where the only viable option is to pay out in order to get the high-end cars before next Christmas. This would, in effect, force most players into doing it.
But, until we actually get the game in-hand, or at least get a look at the money rewards from race series, then it's too early to tell.
What's going to be a problem is if the in-game economy is crippled to the point where the only viable option is to pay out in order to get the high-end cars before next Christmas. This would, in effect, force most players into doing it.
But, until we actually get the game in-hand, or at least get a look at the money rewards from race series, then it's too early to tell.
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- Johnnypenso
. The whole money for credits issue is completely moot unless the payouts are nerfed, Seasonals are missing at the beginning etc.
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It just doesn't make sense not choosing to buy the game because of it. Gran Theft Auto has this feature in game and in no way does it affect the quality of the game or the progression of the online character and I don't see how this would be any different in GT6.
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- HamiltonMP427
Because with all the family and lovey emotional BS PD spews about them and their connection to the fan base, they are taking moves out of the most disconnected Devs. These money grabbing solutions are obviously hated by many that thought PD wouldn't bend to those levels.
With all the asking for PD to come to terms with modern day sim racing that they have publicly said they really don't want to do or have made excuses, they're quite quick to do other modern things such as mulit-patches, with-held content converted to DLC, potential day one DLC, and now buying credits for in game play.
I feel the same way about Rockstar doing it as I do PD, difference is I expect this kind of crap for Rockstar. Unlike many others I don't give two 🤬 about the ability, I'll just beat people on the track who do this as usual and laugh. However, I can see where both sides are coming from I'm not myopic to one decision over the other and neither should you.
Downhill Dino
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Where have they behaved like this? Typically they don't touch upon the fanbase.
What withheld content? What potential day 1 DLC? They was never going to be DLC for the longest time as they had originally said.
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Call it bribery. Call it cheating. Call it whatever name you so wish to call it. The bottom line is simple, it's my game. I bought it with my very own cold hard cash. I'll play it however the hell I choose.
@VegasHB , I hear ya there bud. 👍 I'm pretty much in the same boat. I'm at 60+ hrs. p/wk, wife, home, etc., etc.,
I've not the time to sit there and constantly grind away at it either. If buying credits is what it takes to further myself, then I'm going to do so.
@VegasHB , I hear ya there bud. 👍 I'm pretty much in the same boat. I'm at 60+ hrs. p/wk, wife, home, etc., etc.,
I've not the time to sit there and constantly grind away at it either. If buying credits is what it takes to further myself, then I'm going to do so.
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nvm. I can't defend this feature, no...
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What do you mean? They had an article on this forum talking about how PD saw the fan base as an extended family per say.
What withheld content? What potential day 1 DLC? They was never going to be DLC for the longest time as they had originally said.[/quote]
Your post count tells me you're not new here so I'm quite surprised you don't know or haven't seen this before. Anyways, for example certain cars that were given as DLC in GT5 like the XJR-9, the Aston, the BRZ which was probably the biggest slap oh and the GT-R Black which could have been implemented like the updated NASCARs that were changed even before the game went gold and was released. That's just some of them though, let's not even get started on the race pack DLC. As for the day 1 DLC I can't find where I read rumors on it that seemed plausible but DLC in general was a turn off for many and still is.
And people will do what ever the hell they choose in respect to not buying it, so why they should be questioned anymore than you wanting this feature is beyond me.
