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- On the run
- NaveekDarkroom
And I think the Scirocco could also be nerfed too. It seems to be one of the ore dominant Group 4s.
SO SICK OF THE GR4 MEGANES ACCELERATION!!!!
- Thread starter ElementRacer
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- 1,654
- UK
- JacksHereR
I'm just bitter that the boring to drive with a wheel cars are faster, if I was using a controller then I wouldn't care what car I used, but then I would probably be playing GTAV instead.
- 1,245
- Greece
I agree in general.
But how is this meta (or any other) going to work in the FIA manufacturers cup if there is always one/two manufacturer(s) with faster overall cars than all the others?
If they dont balance this out,there is no point for that Cup.
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- Vancouver
- Nando_deBem
Maybe they did it on porpouse. Maybe they needed more people driving those cars to get more data out of them, and that’s the way they found to get people to use them.
Still, don’t worry... this is just a long test.
I know it may sound arrogant, but...
This happens to every sport, virtual or not.
I used to fight judo and Jiu Jitsu, and every time there’s regulation change, there’s new meta and new ways of winning. At its core, this is a sport, and Sport Mode is its soul. We gotta choose if this is a hobby or a competitive sport for us. If it’s a hobby, let’s stick to open lobbies with whatever rules we decide. If it’s a competitive sport, we gotta find the best options that can lead us to winning. Winning is not about preferences. If we stick to our preferences, but still want to win... chances are we’re gonna be frustrated. Winning is about adaptability, knowledge and compromises.
Still, don’t worry... this is just a long test.
I know it may sound arrogant, but...
This happens to every sport, virtual or not.
I used to fight judo and Jiu Jitsu, and every time there’s regulation change, there’s new meta and new ways of winning. At its core, this is a sport, and Sport Mode is its soul. We gotta choose if this is a hobby or a competitive sport for us. If it’s a hobby, let’s stick to open lobbies with whatever rules we decide. If it’s a competitive sport, we gotta find the best options that can lead us to winning. Winning is not about preferences. If we stick to our preferences, but still want to win... chances are we’re gonna be frustrated. Winning is about adaptability, knowledge and compromises.
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- Woodbridge, UK
Just boycott Sport mode until its fixed, that's what I'm doing.
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- Switzerland
I even crashed yesterday in bathurst while i was looking at the meganes race laptime popping up on the left side. I couldnt belive it...
Megane 2:10.xx on buthurst ... scirocco 2:12-2:13 ... others 2:14 plus. It was the FIA night race yesterday.
Made me even more mad about the car that i crashe by his distraction. And why does it seem most FWD cars are overpowered?
For me a real Racecar has RWD and those 4 cylinder turbos keep running away from all the "real" sportcars.
VGT and FWD everywhere in the top 10s.
Megane 2:10.xx on buthurst ... scirocco 2:12-2:13 ... others 2:14 plus. It was the FIA night race yesterday.
Made me even more mad about the car that i crashe by his distraction. And why does it seem most FWD cars are overpowered?
For me a real Racecar has RWD and those 4 cylinder turbos keep running away from all the "real" sportcars.
VGT and FWD everywhere in the top 10s.
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- stevenhiggster
Magane drivers have no soul.
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- United Kingdom
The Megane is like the Beetle, it's the go-to car for rammers and dirty drivers who will drive with all the aids on and simply yank the handbrake into every turn and floor it.
Also, it's Polyphony, they know they can fix it, they know they should, however, they won't.
Did they fix the Beetle's Gr.3 dominance? No.
Did they even slow the Gr.3 Beetle down? No.
Also, it's Polyphony, they know they can fix it, they know they should, however, they won't.
Did they fix the Beetle's Gr.3 dominance? No.
Did they even slow the Gr.3 Beetle down? No.
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- South West
I have noticed that the level of dirty driving ramps up when there are plenty of Maganes/Sciroccos on the grid. It is a shame that if you want to be competitive then you need to use one of these cars with the FIA Nations race at Interlagos on Sunday being a good example. In the top 10 practice times, 9 were Meganes. I really enjoy the Cayman and wanted to use it for that race and I tried really hard to get close to the times of the Meganes but there was no way. I switched to a Megane and within 3 laps I was 2 seconds faster than I was in the Cayman and about .700 off the top 10. Which was crap because I really don't like driving it but I do want to give myself the best chance to be competitive.
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- pedrocor
To be honest, yesterday at Interlagos that wasn't the case, very clean race with lots of Megane and Scirocco. But exasperating on both straights.
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- South West
Yeah I found that certain circuits you can keep up and this is when BOP feels like it is working because you see a good mix of cars. Other times though if you are not using a Megane/Scirocco you have no chance unless you are super talented and even then, most of those guys switch to the FWD stuff. The top time in practice for FIA Interlagos was an Atenza so its doable.
It was pointed out to me in another thread that the BOP needs to provide the Megane etc with an advantage in order for it to compete with blatantly faster machinery under normal circumstances, which I understand. However I think the balance is tipped too far the other way now and in the case of the Megane, which is a car that probably needs the most help to make it competitive, is now dominating and therefore things are not "balanced" at all.
Yes sorry, I didn't mean to generalize. Perhaps I should have said that I noticed it in that FIA race on Sunday. I'm sure that when clean drivers get together that they race clean in whatever they are driving
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- 381
- stevenhiggster
I find the WRX is a good tool against them. So much faster round the corners than them and you can brake a lot later. If you manage to get on the power earlier then you can get a good tow down the straights and pass them in the corners.
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Yes! I thought I missed one out, the NSX is also very good if you can maintain a decent slip/caster angle.
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- PrinceAsh
Why not beat them with their own car? prove to them you're a better driver.
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- i7Ferrari
I have to be honest on this I don’t want to. Driving FWD race cars is one of the most boring and obnoxius things you can ever do imo, never a power slide, never an oversteer, you just drive as straight as you can without delaying too much braking point. I’m not against drivers who like to drive them, but I don’t want those cars to be overpowered that’s it.
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- RaceManiacGT1
When the car is a few sec faster than your best effort in other cars I think its pretty natural for people to migrate to it. There is a pretty imbalanced BoP now in Gr4 that will hopefully be addressed in the future. This is just sort of doing the normal things as you'd find IRL before things like BoP start to happen and people migrate to a more competitive car.
Ran the FIA race on Sunday at Interlagos and in practice Going from Ferrari to TT was about 2 sec faster and TT to Megane is another second. At Bathurst's daily race(not FIA) was the same deal. Ran a TT and finished 3rd losing out pretty much on the straights everywhere. Switched to Megane and was able to win that one. The disparity is there.
Dirty/not dirty seems to be pretty much dependent on racers anyway. I had 3 clean races on Bathurst and was in a bumpercar fest at Interlagos....but then yesterday's Interlagos race was pretty clean.
Doesn't help the game's FWD default setup is pretty boring to drive. They are pretty fun if you can play with the setup to get them to rotate more on throttle lift and trail braking. With the default tune we are running with bias shifted to 4 or 5 the car still doesn't really rotate that great....
Ran the FIA race on Sunday at Interlagos and in practice Going from Ferrari to TT was about 2 sec faster and TT to Megane is another second. At Bathurst's daily race(not FIA) was the same deal. Ran a TT and finished 3rd losing out pretty much on the straights everywhere. Switched to Megane and was able to win that one. The disparity is there.
Dirty/not dirty seems to be pretty much dependent on racers anyway. I had 3 clean races on Bathurst and was in a bumpercar fest at Interlagos....but then yesterday's Interlagos race was pretty clean.
Doesn't help the game's FWD default setup is pretty boring to drive. They are pretty fun if you can play with the setup to get them to rotate more on throttle lift and trail braking. With the default tune we are running with bias shifted to 4 or 5 the car still doesn't really rotate that great....
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Because usually you aren't, you get matched with people who have a similar driver rating.
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- PrinceAsh
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- Outspacer
At Interlagos before the 1.06 update I was able to match a Megane's lap time with a 458. He'd go past on the start-finish straight, somewhere around the pit entrance, and I'd go back past on the corners. They were close to even on lap-time, at least at some tracks. Now they're about even through the corners, and can easily overtake on the straight well before even seeing the pit entrance - it's ridiculous.
Last night I got a reasonable quali time in the 458, started 12th, which was 2nd of the four or five RWD cars in the race. Gained one place over a slow or crashed Megane, finished 2nd of the RWD, not far behind a Corvette. It would've felt like a win if I'd beaten the Corvette!
Reluctantly I switched to the Megane. First lap was 0.7 secs faster than my best 458 lap! Ended up 1.6 secs faster once used to it. Had starts from 2nd, 4th, and pole (won that one). Point proved.
This 'Emergency patch' better fix this, because I can't take much more FF
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- Riga
I have a Megane only because I'm good at winning French cars for some strange reason and I was bored last night so I made a livery for it and tonight I raced it for the first time and it's very fast can't be this fast in real life! I was coming 6th and 5th and 4th gave up on lap 9 I think in Brands GP only 12 laps in the race and if the race was another 2 laps longer I would of come 3rd! You can make so many mistakes in this car and still come back!
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- Philippines
- skygrasper_550--
The Megane and Scirocco are insane. There was this one race in Dragon Trail when I was chasing a Megane. He crashed 3 times in front of me, yet still managed to stay in front and pull away because of the absurd straight-line speed. He crashes, I get close, we get to a straight, he pulls away. Seriously, these 2 FF Gr.4 need to have more weight since they're some of the lightest Gr.4 cars, and maybe a bit less power as well.
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- RaceManiacGT1
I find at least the Megane and TT both are better to drive than the Scirocco. No idea why I can't make that car work. Megane gives me an excuse to make a BTCC Laguna-esque livery for it...
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- bloodyboyblue
I feel like a lot of the people complaining about Meganes are the same people who used the Viper before the update. The Megane has always been faster than everything else down the straight, the last update just made it lighter and faster in the corners as well. I’m A/S though so in the lobbies I race in the FF cars don’t make up for mistakes, you still have to run a perfect race or else the McLarens/Vettes/Porsches will eat you up, unless it’s a track with a lot of straights of course. The 911 has always been the best Gr3 all rounder even though it’s not fun to drive and I haven’t seen anyone complaining. I’ve never tried the Beetle. The Megane is more fun to drive for me personally than most of the FR cars, since it seems to be about precision and slow in fast out rather then just throwing it around hoping the downforce makes you stick. The WRX is still my favourite though since AWD suits my driving style the most.
I’ve always just treated the Nations Cup like a one make race, and the Manufacturers Cup like a race within a race, only really racing your own make, and trying to be the #1 in points for your manufacturer.
And as everyone has said, dirty drivers are dirty drivers, doesn’t matter what car they pick. I just with Lambo and Ferrari were more competitive since then they’d be easy to spot since douchebags love their Italian supercars.
I’ve always just treated the Nations Cup like a one make race, and the Manufacturers Cup like a race within a race, only really racing your own make, and trying to be the #1 in points for your manufacturer.
And as everyone has said, dirty drivers are dirty drivers, doesn’t matter what car they pick. I just with Lambo and Ferrari were more competitive since then they’d be easy to spot since douchebags love their Italian supercars.
