Sound Update (PD is now hiring! + Email!)Answered

[Speedster911]

@TayeezSA I cannot view these vids. Can you leave a Youtube URL or something?

 

[mister dog]

So; how are the applications going?

Will @Griffith500 be based at the Tokio office, and become the first true inside source at the PD offices that will report back to this forum to answer questions?

 

[Speedster911]

Wow.. that'd be really something!

 

[mister dog]

Wow.. that'd be really something!

New section to be added to GTP: "Griffith500 Q&A" ... beware though not all the questions will be about sound generation .

 

[Tenacious D]

So, Griff..... are the sounds of full ALMS League racing going to be in GT7? Like a season full of those sounds? And how do custom liveries and that new Course Maker affect the sonic environment?

 

[TayeezSA]

@TayeezSA I cannot view these vids. Can you leave a Youtube URL or something?

Ok everytime I put a Youtube link it already embeds them. Tis ruff

 

[Johnnypenso]

So; how are the applications going?

Will @Griffith500 be based at the Tokio office, and become the first true inside source at the PD offices that will report back to this forum to answer questions?

If anyone makes it to PD they'll likely have to sign a non-disclosure agreement and we'll get the same level of communication from that that we get from the rest of PD now...zippo.

 

[Griffith500]

If anyone makes it to PD they'll likely have to sign a non-disclosure agreement and we'll get the same level of communication from that that we get from the rest of PD now...zippo.

I can neither confirm nor deny this.

 

[TurismoBad]

If anyone makes it to PD they'll likely have to sign a non-disclosure agreement and we'll get the same level of communication from that that we get from the rest of PD now...zippo.

 

[mister dog]

At least Michelle says it once!

 

[Tenacious D]

Well, but what if he can sneak in a Pit Stop article? Then when it infects the intranets, like the kart racing in GT5, they can't take it back.

 

[Speedster911]

What a BRILLIANT show!! Miss it like crazy!

 

[Spitty]

So they are recruiting now, does that mean the old guys got fired?

 

[Speedster911]

More than likely.. yes!

When there's such a staggeringly wide disparity between graphics and audio, I think a dev should look to all possible alternatives.

Maybe they are now really serious about outshining other devs on matters of sound.

 

[Griffith500]

The emphasis was on expanding the existing team.

 

[Shahar]

The question should go like this: WHY DO THE CARS SOUND LIKE VACUUM CLEANERS?

EDIT: I don't mean to come off as an idiot, I just thought it was the most sarcastic way to ask them since they've been giving vague answers to the 'sound question'. Of course don't ask them like that.

PD sees the future, VACUUM CLEANERS are electric and the Cars of the future are electric .

 

[TayeezSA]

Dear PD, this is how an AE86 must sound

 

[IngRobNy]

I wonder why brand new cars like the BMW M4 2014 and the Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C7) 2014 sound worse than the older BMW M3 2007 and Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) 2009? The sound on those 2014 cars is just awful, i could not drive them because the awful engine sound so i traded them for older ones. If this is the new sound, please stop, just leave the game as it is, the GT6 don't need more new cars with awful sounds.

 

[Griffith500]

I wonder why brand new cars like the BMW M4 2014 and the Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C7) 2014 sound worse than the BMW M3 2007 and the Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) 2009? The sound on those 2014 cars is just awful, i could not drive them anymore so i traded them for older ones. If this is the new sound, please stop, just leave the game as it is, the GT6 don't need more new cars with awful sounds.

It's not the new sound. We're yet to get the full hit of that fruit.

 

[IngRobNy]

It's not the new sound. We're yet to get the full hit of that fruit.

I know, but i don't understand why they add more cars with even more bad sound than the older models, i really hope they hiring some quality sound engineer, who will help them to get better quality on the overall sound, in my opinion, rest of the game is good quality, but it is pity that the sound is so far behind quality wise.

 

[sparkytooth]

To be fair the F82 M4 has a different engine type altogether, the E92 had a NA V8 in it, while the M4 has a Turbocharged I-6.

 

[IngRobNy]

To be fair the F82 M4 has a different engine type altogether, the E92 had a NA V8 in it, while the M4 has a Turbocharged I-6.

In the end i also sold the BMW M3 2007 and bought the Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG 2010 instead, much better sound on that car.

 

[Griffith500]

I know, but i don't understand why they add more cars with even more bad sound than the older models, i really hope they hiring some quality sound engineer, who will help them to get better quality on the overall sound, in my opinion, rest of the game is good quality, but it is pity that the sound is so far behind quality wise.

Well, they are placeholders!

All of the cars being added are effectively using samples / sample sets that were made for other cars in previous games. This is presumably because the sounds being authored for the new method take up enough time that PD don't want to make new samples in the old method, too. Nor do they seem to want to spend too much time browsing the database of existing samples to find a good match.

 

[Beorn]

I like very much gt, but when i listen the impreza sti i feel angreebecause my 2.0 forester sounds better)
They must work on it...

 

[IngRobNy]

Well, they are placeholders!

All of the cars being added are effectively using samples / sample sets that were made for other cars in previous games. This is presumably because the sounds being authored for the new method take up enough time that PD don't want to make new samples in the old method, too. Nor do they seem to want to spend too much time browsing the database of existing samples to find a good match.

👍 Yes, what you are saying making sense, i haven't thought about it that way, we or at least me just have to continue to test out cars and keep the cars who has the kind of sound we or i prefer and hope there will be improvement in GT7, in my opinion Gran Turismo is the best driving serie for the Playstation, maybe because the Gran Turismo has become a habit? I don't know, but i always come back to Gran Turismo after i have played Grid 1, 2 and Autosport, both Shift, i have also played almost every Ridge Racer and many many more driving games, but there is someting unique with Gran Turismo, it's like an addiction

 

[IngRobNy]

I like very much gt, but when i listen the impreza sti i feel angreebecause my 2.0 forester sounds better)
They must work on it...

The worst car in my ears opinion is the Nissan GT-R Calsonic IMPUL 2008 the GT500 car, the engine sound is just awful and painful.

 

[Speedster911]

@IngRobNy For the ultimate thrill and experience in game engine audio you must pick up FM4. If you can get an X1, even better: pick up both FM5 and H2 (when it arrives).

The two cars you mentioned sounding horrible is ironic.. IRL they are an earful and the engine/exhaust notes would give you instant goose bumps. I think they are just trying to keep fans occupied and pleased until they find a real solution for sound in GT7. They say they have so to speak.. but how they plan to implement it remains to be seen. Unlike T10 or Codies, I don't think they're revealing much before release anyway. But that can change, we'll have to wait.

I assure you once you get addicted to Forza, the audio and physics will make you want to play it over and over. Course' there's no guarantee you won't miss GT's "trippy" tracks.

 

[FosterG]

I agree Speedster911, sound is SO important to the driving experience, maybe no game is spot on with the sounds but Forza does a much better job than GT6. The sound of the LaFerrari is eargasmic to me.

 

[IngRobNy]

@IngRobNy For the ultimate thrill and experience in game engine audio you must pick up FM4. If you can get an X1, even better: pick up both FM5 and H2 (when it arrives).

The two cars you mentioned sounding horrible is ironic.. IRL they are an earful and the engine/exhaust notes would give you instant goose bumps. I think they are just trying to keep fans occupied and pleased until they find a real solution for sound in GT7. They say they have so to speak.. but how they plan to implement it remains to be seen. Unlike T10 or Codies, I don't think they're revealing much before release anyway. But that can change, we'll have to wait.

I assure you once you get addicted to Forza, the audio and physics will make you want to play it over and over. Course' there's no guarantee you won't miss GT's "trippy" tracks.

It is to late for that, i bought Playstation 4 a couple weeks back, i have always had a week spot for Playstation, even i have owned Xbox, Nintendo, Sega, i bought the first Xbox 360 but the fan was so loud and the controller was chewing batteries, so i sold it just after 2 weeks or so.
But i agree i have watch some videos of FM4 on youtube and the engine sound is much better than GT5 and GT6, but as i understand Forza also have flaws, so in the end, it all come down to what flaws we can or have to live with.

And after PD became aware of how big issue the sound is for us here on GTplanet and they are looking for hiring additional sound engineers, the future of Gran Turismo is looking promising.

I am very curious and excited about Project Cars, i really hope it will be a great racing game.

Also i wrote in a early post here that if they don't do someting about the sound in GT7 i won't buy it, but i have to admit that i maybe won't be able to keep that promise, Playstation without Gran Turismo feels kinda empty... yes they belong somehow together.

 

[Vegard]

Well, they are placeholders!

They're not really placeholders, are they...

There's no update coming (98% certain IMO).
Those cars are going to sound like 🤬 throughout GT6's lifespan.