SRT TOMAHAWK VISION GT OT (Now available)

[Aphelion]

Oh look. Now we've got the drawn on the back of a napkin car by a company that doesn't even have a history of doing particularly creative things.

Are you trying to tell me that certain people or companies don't have the right to be creative, simply because they haven't been creative before? Do explain.

It's obvious he's not wrong, then, if that's the best you can do for a reply.

He never said he was wrong, which of course, he is 100% correct. This car is utterly, utterly ridiculous. As to why that is a bad thing, I am completely clueless.

 

[andrea]

Nah, it's just photoshop. I want that livery though...

That fooled me pretty good.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

I should be driving home right now (damned 25km drive thru city traffic) but I love to talk about this stuff and I did this to show you some clues that I believe are related to older Dodge/SRT designs... You may even find more comparing to some other models but these are the first that come to mind.

Side:

Ah, that is quite interesting. The side portion is a design cue that was used on previous Dodge/SRT cars... Very neat. 👍

Sorry if this has been brought up before but they actually built one?

They did create a scale model, but the one in the picture is actually a Photoshop-edited image from a Jaguar XE video that was recorded in the Nurburgring.

 

[diegorborges]

Ah, that is quite interesting. The side portion is a design cue that was used on previous Dodge/SRT cars... Very neat. 👍



They did create a scale model, but the one in the picture is actually a Photoshop-edited image from a Jaguar XE video that was recorded in the Nurburgring.

And there`s more, on the rear... see how the tail lights format is similar, the SRT and R/T badge are located in the same way in the rear and everything "happens inside a frame" (the pink line). You can find most of those in other SRT products.

 

[Epic B]

Does anyone else think it looks kind of like the Alpine, especially from the rear? I think it also looks a bit like the Mazda.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

And there`s more, on the rear... see how the tail lights format is similar, the SRT and R/T badge are located in the same way in the rear and everything "happens inside a frame" (the pink line). You can find most of those in other SRT products.

Now that you say it, those rear lights on the Tomahawk are similar to those found on the Charger, the old one that is. The main difference is that the 'Hawk's lights are slimmer, and smaller. The rest does look quite similar as well.

 

[Skygrasper550]

Good lord, that Tomahawk X is insane. 2,590hp?!?!?! That reminds me of all the crazy hacked and modded cars that happened back in GT5. For sure this is going to have acceleration that no one could comprehend. And those body panels... damn. The car looks alive as it drives along, because the panels move constantly. It's like those moving aero body panels from the Pagani Huayra, but taken to a whole new level.

I love at how people p:censored: on PD sending out these VGT cars and hating on them... but with this SRT VGT, I dunno. I think some minds are going to be changed pretty soon.

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Y U no have 80 Meg Broadband

Why you have no 152 meg broadband

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Being a Dodge/SRT, it'll break down on its first lap.

On a side note, I wonder if Ralph Gilles had any say in the design of this.

Or it will win various championships due to it's predecessors (Vipers) doing that...I like to put reality in perspective too, but that's reaching levels of hyperbole considering what Chrysler has done in recent years as Motorsport success. The company is the problem the teams they create to achieve said success aren't, nor the cars.

So let's not say it will breakdown

 

[notStig]

The Tomahwk X is ridiculous, but it's cool. Definetely not my favourite of the 3, but it doesn't really bother me. I'll probably use it the least out of the three.

But I'm not convinced this car (well, the X variant) will be a Red Bull killer. Mainly because the Red Bulls have a lot of downforce, and thanks to the fan, at any speed. In the short gameplay video, it was slower than the Red Bulls at the turns on Laguna Seca. A properly set up Red Bull car will be very hard to beat. The greatest advantage this car has are the better acceleration and top speed, but I don't know if it's enough to counter Red Bull's handling, at least on not so fast tracks. I'll have to wait and see.

But the more I look at it the more I want that GTS-R version. That livery fits the car so well! I love this picture:

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

• SRT "Generic Hypercar Concept".
• SRT "Generic Hypercar Concept Turned Up To 11".
• SRT "We Gave Our Designers Drugs And Look What Happened."

Well when it's fictional digital money on the scale of what you find in a Monoply box, then yes Chrysler can make dreams and more come true (they are quite good at at that and the VGT project has reminded us yet again). When it comes to real money...they simply say "we gotta save money, cancel all Motorsport projects even if they're winning this season and build this Hellcat idea."

 

[Tornado]

Are you trying to tell me that certain people or companies don't have the right to be creative, simply because they haven't been creative before?

Nope. They can be as creative as they want. It just stretches any relevance or significance that people continue to attach to the VGT program past the breaking point when cars come up that are completely alien to anything the automaker has ever done and will ever do. The entire history of SRT can be summed up with "shoving powerful engines into regular cars with a shoestring budget" (and the Viper, which until the most recent generation was essentially that anyway), so what relevance does an AWD 2600HP mid engined wedge with the entire body covered with movable body panels have to the SRT name? At least with the Chaparral people could pretend that "small, independent race team that pioneered practical aerodynamic innovations" had something to do with "some General Motors stylist got bored so he drew lasers."



Put another way, if the VGT program is going to devolve into an arms race for who can come up with the most ridiculous thing they can put wheels on, why does the program even matter? Why the hoopla about getting real car designers to design these things if they are just throwing out Hot Wheels cars? Why not just have the PD member's kids draw them and cut out the middleman?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Nope. They can be as creative as they want. It just stretches any relevance or significance that people continue to attach to the VGT program past the breaking point when cars come up that are completely alien to anything the automaker has ever done and will ever do. The entire history of SRT can be summed up with "shoving powerful engines into regular cars with a shoestring budget" (and the Viper, which until the most recent generation was essentially that anyway), so what relevance does an AWD 2600HP mid engined wedge with the entire body covered with movable body panels have to the SRT name? At least with the Chaparral people could pretend that "small, independent race team that pioneered practical aerodynamic innovations" had something to do with "some General Motors stylist got bored so he drew lasers."



Put another way, if the VGT program is going to devolve into an arms race for who can come up with the most ridiculous thing they can put wheels on, why does the program even matter? Why the hoopla about getting real car designers to design these things if they are just throwing out Hot Wheels cars? Why not just have the PD's kids draw them and cut out the middleman?

Simple look what it causes when they release one to the masses, a quick scoop up of it and people are happy and sitting high for the next one. If that's all it takes for GT to remedy any other glaring issues to quickly be forgotten they'll keep doing it. Cause at the end of the day it was never about the realism, or a connection to these automotive group's culture and having that shown through this project like Kaz would have said a la 2001 or so.

 

[racingchamp30]

From what i am reading, these cars are going to be very insanely fast. Are we going to be just offered one to pick or we going to get all 3 when it comes out?

 

[omgsean1]

From what i am reading, these cars are going to be very insanely fast. Are we going to be just offered one to pick or we going to get all 3 when it comes out?

I don't think there are seasonal events for all 3 of them to pick when 1.20 release around this summer.

 

[sirjim73]

Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that makes for interesting discussion, but for those commenting about the 2590 HP version and how ridiculous the Tomahawk Vision GT is, i would consider you compare it with this:

http://www.bloodhoundssc.com/

BLOODHOUND SSC is a unique, high-technology project to design and build a CAR that will break the 1,000mph barrier and set a new world land speed record. Designed and constructed in the UK, BLOODHOUND SSC includes components and sponsorship from international companies and will make its record attempt in South Africa.

Four wheels, 7.5 tonnes, 135,000 bhp. See inside the ultimate jet and rocket powered CAR


So, we still have 132,410 HP to go


I would also ask that people remember that there were TWO other Tomahawk vehicles that were announced today, along with the Tomahawk X.

SRT Tomahawk S Vision Gran Turismo
The Tomahawk S is the entry level machine to prep players for the incredible performance of the Tomahawk series; but the specs of the "S" are already off the charts. The 7.0-liter wide-angle V-10 is tuned to deliver 792 hp (compared with 645 hp for the 8.4-liter V-10 in the 2015 Dodge Viper). The pneumatically driven front wheels add 215 hp, for total system output of 1,007 hp. With a curb weight of 2,026 pounds, this version of the SRT Tomahawk is the heaviest, yet it has a top speed in excess of 250 mph.

SRT Tomahawk GTS-R Vision Gran Turismo
Race tuning pushes output of the V-10 to 1,137 hp, while the air-driven front wheels add 313 hp for total system output of 1,450 hp. Aggressive weight-cutting techniques whittles the curb weight of the Tomahawk GTS-R to 1,459 pounds (the lightest of any version) and the top speed in excess of 300 mph.

The Nissan Le Mans car released today has more HP than the Tomahawk S (when it works properly ) (The Jay Leno video mentioned that the car is over 1,000 HP when fully implemented).

 

[Aphelion]

Nope. They can be as creative as they want. It just stretches any relevance or significance that people continue to attach to the VGT program past the breaking point when cars come up that are completely alien to anything the automaker has ever done and will ever do. The entire history of SRT can be summed up with "shoving powerful engines into regular cars with a shoestring budget" (and the Viper, which until the most recent generation was essentially that anyway), so what relevance does an AWD 2600HP mid engined wedge with the entire body covered with movable body panels have to the SRT name? At least with the Chaparral people could pretend that "small, independent race team that pioneered practical aerodynamic innovations" had something to do with "some General Motors stylist got bored so he drew lasers."



Put another way, if the VGT program is going to devolve into an arms race for who can come up with the most ridiculous thing they can put wheels on, why does the program even matter? Why the hoopla about getting real car designers to design these things if they are just throwing out Hot Wheels cars? Why not just have the PD member's kids draw them and cut out the middleman?

Good point. Although I suspect SRT didn't particularly want to be on a shoestring budget. This is their dream car, so it would seem. What you said though makes sense. The VGT project doesn't really seem to have much of a point, other than just being a bit of fun for the people involved. I personally find it exciting, waiting for these cars to be added, and in my opinion, the more ridiculous, the better. I would prefer real life cars of course, but I feel that if its going to be a concept car, it had better be as crazy as possible!

 

[ALB123]

I'm sorry, but this is a perfect example of why I can't stand the VGT project. I like what BMW did. I like what Toyota did and I even like the Mercedes-Benz car. But cars that look like squashed spaceships...with 2,500+ horsepower or laser beam propulsion systems just don't do it for me. "The Real Driving Simulator..." Ummm...yeah. This was an amazing opportunity for manufacturers and I think the majority of them blew it, big time.

I'll run the events to collect my three cars and grab the credits so I can purchase cars that I'll actually enjoy driving. I'm shocked at the number of people who get excited over these types of cars. I absolutely respect everybody's opinion here, but I always thought Gran Turismo people were way more into wanting the sim experience than the arcade experience.

 

[cutmeamango]

That's way too many words to gloom over 2 cars that are out of the curve.
And Vision project is a vision of the future. Near future, far future, not that near but not that far future.
And of course, it is clear that the makers had full liberty to what they'd do as long as it had 3 or more wheels touching the ground. Most (so far) chose high end future production sports car. Some chose to represent their racing legacy by making race cars and others decided to 'push the envelope' because a videogame simulation allows it, and futurism exists since the past.
SRT thinks they are known for being ahead in terms of power and control, and they chose having all the power and control they could. The design lines are characteristic with the snake head front and others displayed above. They could very well just think of the 2016/17 Viper or whatever (like BMW did...) but that is wasting the chance of getting out of the comfort zone and daring just a bit since they usually are not in that position.

Looking forward for Bertoni's (if it ever gets released), Lamborghini's and Hyundai's F1000.
And Ford, Zagato, Tesla, Audi.

And as long as they are physically sound projects, it's simulation...

Forgot about Daihatsu, hopefully it's a small box car.

 

[sparkytooth]

I don't see how it's not a "simulation" if the same physics engine that governs the other 1242 cars governs this car as well. It just uses extreme specs and the lowest level model of it is easily comparable in stats to a current koenigsegg.

 

[RCKakashi14]

Hmmmmm...

 

[Jayson619]

Sill the big question remains...WILL WE GET THE SUIT AS WELL (looks at my 'cammo-Stig' suit)!?!

 

[dimassa19]

I'm sorry, but this is a perfect example of why I can't stand the VGT project. I like what BMW did. I like what Toyota did and I even like the Mercedes-Benz car. But cars that look like squashed spaceships...with 2,500+ horsepower or laser beam propulsion systems just don't do it for me. "The Real Driving Simulator..." Ummm...yeah. This was an amazing opportunity for manufacturers and I think the majority of them blew it, big time.

I'll run the events to collect my three cars and grab the credits so I can purchase cars that I'll actually enjoy driving. I'm shocked at the number of people who get excited over these types of cars. I absolutely respect everybody's opinion here, but I always thought Gran Turismo people were way more into wanting the sim experience than the arcade experience.

I don't care about 'horse power'...all that i want is beautiful machines, like the "S" model without aerodinamics parts and that beautiful
curved-star-wheel graphite...I take these magnificent machines only to make videos and photos. So, is not a question of 'arcade' or 'sim' to me...

 

[dogw10]

It's Morphin Time

Spoiler

 

[Lubeify100]

Is there any way to watch the live streams after they ended?

 

[Quakebass]

What I love about the VGT program is the removal of limits, primarily the monetary, to the designers and brains of the companies. Most, if not all of these projects wouldn't be possible purely on the basis that it isn't financially viable to build a single one of them. So the designers are discouraged from even trying to use the full capacity of their imagination - meaning artists can't be true artists, all because they don't have the assets to build and test so many things.

This project is for the designers and engineers to make something without needing to worry about limits, to really see what humans are capable of creating. It wasn't possible in the past, because there was no real way to accurately simulate physics on a high enough level ~10 years ago, let alone display and distribute it to a large public/consumer audience. They're still working with "real-world" parameters, obviously not nearly 100% perfect but close enough to be reasonably reliable.

That's why I love the VGT program. The lasers and 2,600 HP power figures are kinda out there and over the top. But most everything else seems believable, while being bat-**** crazy, and it reminds me of some of the insane designs that a few Italian manufacturers have built, most of which actually exist. As well, the Bugatti Veyron, which was built as an engineering feat purely to prove that it was physically possible to do what it did - be a luxurious everyday-driver, while simultaneously being the fastest car in the world - rather than to turn a profit.

Yeah, these things are theoretical, but it's also giving an opportunity to see what other designs manufacturers may have otherwise thrown out or left on the drawing board. It's a creative flex for both design and engineering. I, personally, love that.

 

[dimassa19]

What I love about the VGT program is the removal of limits, primarily the monetary, to the designers and brains of the companies. Most, if not all of these projects wouldn't be possible purely on the basis that it isn't financially viable to build a single one of them. So the designers are discouraged from even trying to use the full capacity of their imagination - meaning artists can't be true artists, all because they don't have the assets to build and test so many things.

This project is for the designers and engineers to make something without needing to worry about limits, to really see what humans are capable of creating. It wasn't possible in the past, because there was no real way to accurately simulate physics on a high enough level ~10 years ago, let alone display and distribute it to a large public/consumer audience. They're still working with "real-world" parameters, obviously not nearly 100% perfect but close enough to be reasonably reliable.

That's why I love the VGT program. The lasers and 2,600 HP power figures are kinda out there. But most everything else seems believable, while being bat-**** crazy, and it reminds me of some of the insane designs that a few Italian manufacturers have built, most of which actually exist. As well, the Bugatti Veyron, which was built as an engineering feat purely to prove that it was physically possible to do what it did - be a luxurious everyday-driver, while simultaneously being the fastest car in the world - rather than to turn a profit.

Yeah, these things are theoretical, but it's also giving an opportunity to see what other designs manufacturers may have otherwise thrown out or left on the drawing board. It's a creative flex for both design and engineering. I, personally, love that.

...and all this new stuff gets right to ours hands! monthly!

 

[trustjab]

To anyone questioning the speed, there were guys in texas running 1800hp street Vipers hitting 240+mph in the standing mile. And thats back in 2011. Afaik, the newest record is ~280mph by a 2000hp Ford GT. This is a standing mile, btw, pure acceleration. Theres nothing unreasonable about a fast Chrysler. Those hellcat models comes to mind. And for those corner carvers, the ACR Viper is near unbeatable. They have plenty of history of outlandish cars.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Well this one really wild. These cars almost look like they could have their own game, I'd bet it'd do fairly well too. Further supports my feelings about the Vision GT cars, they can't race each other on level ground all that well.

 

[Pootis]

Sill the big question remains...WILL WE GET THE SUIT AS WELL (looks at my 'cammo-Stig' suit)!?!

Probably.