Student commits suicide in front of parents/students at school

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Theres a story in many of the major Uk papers today that sent a shiver down my spine, its of a 14-year-old who had eating disorders and visited several websites on that subject and on how to commit suicide..she had commited suicide by laying down on train tracks and a train ran over her at over 60mph!..police found her dismembered body and she had scrawled the word 'fat' on to her tummy useing a razor blade and she was only 5st 2lbs...
 
Will you be linking this in the Funny News Stories and Quotes thread Omnis ? Hopefully you can make a few jokes out of it at least.
 
MUSC4EVER
Umm..was that aimed at me?..only Omnis hasnt posted on this thread...
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Not aimed at you by any means. Don't know why you thought that ? :confused:

Omnis
Girl runs train with the football team, then gets run over by a train.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...group-sex-football-players-posted-online.html

Don't have sex at 15 (with everyone) if you don't want to be known as a slut. Poor girl.
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https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7752800#post7752800
 
Dennisch
Oh.

You do realize we are on the Internet, right?

Like, sympathy, it has none?
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Of course you'd expect it on sites like 4chan but even then I think a lot of people are just trolling for reactions. Considering he's a mod I doubt he's trolling on gtp and therefore genuinely derives pleasure from it, which is pretty astounding imo.

Also when a celebrity or driver dies, I don't see many unsympathetic reactions, and if there were, I'm sure whoever joked about it would be lambasted. On here at least anyway.
 
Omnis is the king of the one liners. And as everyone is being serious, some should be allowed to make a funny, I see no problem in that.
 
Dennisch
Omnis is the king of the one liners. And as everyone is being serious, some should be allowed to make a funny, I see no problem in that.
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Don't really know how anyone could laugh about it in that instance and its pretty macabre for a site where it is against the rules to state any desire to see a racing driver crash, let alone get injured.

I suppose its a strange world where black confectioneries are considered despicable, but laughing at someone so detached and desperate that they felt the only way out was to kill themselves is considered socially acceptable.
 
There is a huge difference in wishing someone crash or in this case, killing themselves and make a joke about it, after it already happened.

You can't change it anymore, so you deal with it how you feel like, as long as it is within the rules of this site.

And furthermore, it is always a lot easier to be funny about something that isn't close to home. Especially online.
 
Dennisch
There is a huge difference in wishing someone crash or in this case, killing themselves and make a joke about it, after it already happened.
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Not really. Both are statements with no direct effect on an event and both seek felicity from the event. I would argue that wishing a driver no harm other than the retirement from a race is nowhere near as bad as the latter. Yet the former is deemed unacceptable, whilst the latter isn't, apparently.

You can't change it anymore, so you deal with it how you feel like, as long as it is within the rules of this site.
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Change what ? I have no intention of breaking any rules or changing anything. I'm genuinely curious how he finds it compassionately acceptable to say it.

I'm not going to be offended by any exterior comment and I personally have a disdain for people that are so please don't think I'm upset about it or anything. Is it pedantic ? I'l leave whoever's reading this to decide.

And furthermore, it is always a lot easier to be funny about something that isn't close to home. Especially online.
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I'd say suicide is something that affects society in general far more than racing driver deaths. Drivers are fully aware of the dangers and by entering the sport, are accepting the risk. Nobody chooses to be in a suicidal position(except martyrs, but lets not get into that).

Whether its online or not, is irrelevant.
 
I can see how the parenting MAY NOT have been the issue...

But I do question the parenting of a child who has access to a gun, and the ability to get it to school without it being noticed.

Massive Assumption- His parents wouldn't have let him take the gun to school if they had known about it. Which means they're negligent, not necessarily apathetic.
 
From the Bennion Jr. High Student Planner.
http://www.graniteschools.org/jr/bennion/Info/handbookpages_080511.pdf

CITIZENSHIP POLICY

Satisfactory citizenship is a graduation requirement in Granite School District. this includes behavior, attendance, punctuality and adherence to the rules and policies of the school. Students will be required to earn a 2.0 cumulative Citizenship Point Average(CPA) on a 4.00 point scale in grades 9-12. In addition to academic grades, the following citizenship grade will be awarded: 4-Honor, 3-Good, 2-Satisfactory, 1-Poor, 0-Failure.
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A story with family interview discussing bullying and such.
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/sl...d-teen-David-Phan/Izo9DAf26k2O61Fatnw_kg.cspx

“It was like pretty much every day he got teased for something you shouldn’t even be teased for,” McKenzi Bridge, a student, said.
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I'm not going to say much about those who disagree with me on my first post. I'll simply say that I attended public school in the U.S., I raised two kids in and out of the public school system in the U.S., my first experience with death involved one of my closest mates when we where in the tenth grade, I've lost other friends/family to both suicide and drug overdose. I'm quite content with my knowledge of both conformity and grieving.

Just some food for thought.
http://www.nami.org/Content/ContentGroups/Helpline1/Teenage_Suicide.htm

While the reasons that teens commit suicide vary widely, there are some common situations and circumstances that seem to lead to such extreme measures. These include major disappointment, rejection, failure, or loss such as breaking up with a girlfriend or boyfriend, failing a big exam, or witnessing family turmoil. Since the overwhelming majority of those who commit suicide have a mental or substance-related disorder, they often have difficulty coping with such crippling stressors. They are unable to see that their life can turn around, unable to recognize that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Usually, the common reasons for suicide listed above are actually not the "causes" of the suicide, but rather triggers for suicide in a person suffering from a mental illness or substance-related disorder.
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Mental illness and addiction are two of the most misunderstood forms of illness, as such there can often be ridicule and a lack of tolerance.

EDIT: Forgot to add a signature vid lol

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Really really sucks T_T

The fact that the only real quotes from a family member that they have in the abc4 story is from his cousin is a bit suspicous on the parenting front...

@arora: Telling people to have good behavior isn't forcing people to conform....
 
I guess you missed his brother's quotes?

“He loved everyone unconditionally,” Don Phan said. “I guess it just wasn’t enough. It wasn’t enough to stop the bullying.”
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Don Phan?

Really?

240px-232Donphan.png
 
Scaff
I wasn't aware that you knew this individual as a close enough personal friend to provide us with such a unique insight into the cause of their unfortunate death.

Oh wait, that's right you simply posting your own ill informed opinion as if it were fact.

Strong suggestion - stop.
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Did I say it was a fact? Next time I'll just state it's my opinion so no one jumps to conclusions as they always do. :lol:
 
Liquid
Don Phan?

Really?

240px-232Donphan.png
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What a name. I'm sure I don't want to be a rolling elephant.

Why are we interested in laying blame here? Judging by the article and all the information gathered... The school is to blame for the bullying, and the kids at the school. If the parents have any blame for this, it's because they didn't know about it (and the kid wouldn't tell his parents on top of that.)

You have to think, with all the anti-bullying campaigns going on and everything... are they really being effective? Not so much, as evidenced by the article. One of my friends who previously was in a public school said that "The anti-bullying things *school name withheld* is doing... I really don't see an effect. If anything, the same kids are getting picked on, especially *name withheld.* Why is it that way? Because the teachers are absolute 🤬 who don't care about anything but retirement benefits and keeping their jobs."

We can talk about problems, discuss and analyze them, hypothesize about solutions and experiment with solutions... but we can't change human nature. People are still going to bully, and people are going to take their own lives to escape it. Imagine how the bullies are feeling right now if they have any sense of decency - you just led someone to kill themselves. How do you feel for having a part in it?

I'll post more of my thoughts later, have to leave.
 
I believe in free will and right to do whatever you want with your own body so long as you're not infringing on anyone else's rights. If you want to kill yourself, then by all means feel free to do so. Just don't harm anyone else in the process.
 
ShobThaBob
I believe in free will and right to do whatever you want with your own body so long as you're not infringing on anyone else's rights. If you want to kill yourself, then by all means feel free to do so. Just don't harm anyone else in the process.
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The fact that he did it in front of his parents leads me to believe that he might've done it partly to spite his parents.

So maybe it was domestic issues rather than bullying, or perhaps it was both. Just a hypothesis.
 
Children committing suicide reflects on a morally bankrupt society, the fact that it's condoned further proves my point.
 
arora
Children committing suicide reflects on a morally bankrupt society, the fact that it's condoned further proves my point.
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How is it immoral to let people , children as well as adults decide over their own lives and bodies?
 
Who said adult? we have another thread for that, you could see my thoughts in that regard as it's much different then considering a child.
 
arora
Who said adult? we have another thread for that, you could see my thoughts in that regard as it's much different then considering a child.
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I should've added children depending on age. If you're 14,15,16 I think you should be allowed to decide. Obviously family etc. should be allowed to give input and verbally try to stop them. But utlimately it's should be the persons call.
 

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