Suggestions Box

[KLR142]

That C1 Corvette I was talking about, fully modded, on N3 tires in GT Mode was a great ride...

 

[DeLoreanBrown]

I know you can use it in GT simulation mode, but you can't actually use it in any of the races against AI. That's why i think it's ripe for the WRS.

You can use the Caterham in SingleRace mode @ the Nurburgring . This is the only race ive found so far , you cannot alter the gearing though which is a bummer as ule be only using fourth on dottinger hohe when the thing has six bloody gears ! i found this completely absurd . It can race at the nurn though and in sim mode ive gotten one to a grand total of 279bhp , the trick being NOT to balance the engine .
a quirky little mother is the supersev.

 

[ROB 256R]

You can use the Caterham in SingleRace mode @ the Nurburgring . This is the only race ive found so far , you cannot alter the gearing though which is a bummer as ule be only using fourth on dottinger hohe when the thing has six bloody gears ! i found this completely absurd . It can race at the nurn though and in sim mode ive gotten one to a grand total of 279bhp , the trick being NOT to balance the engine .
a quirky little mother is the supersev.

Really, i didn't know that. Anyway you can actually get them to 290bhp How? Purchase the engine balancing but then get the semi-racing exhaust instead of the full racing one. For some reason it gives more power. 👍

 

[Tyre King]

Really, i didn't know that. Anyway you can actually get them to 290bhp How? Purchase the engine balancing but then get the semi-racing exhaust instead of the full racing one. For some reason it gives more power. 👍

Now that is interesting!

Basically a go-cart, with 290bhp!

Sounds like a lot of fun!

Neil

 

[Tedehur]

You can use the Caterham in SingleRace mode @ the Nurburgring . This is the only race ive found so far ...

Single Race is an Arcade Mode option. There's no way you can use the Super 7 in a Family Cup in GT Mode. Free run only is available.
IMO, this is a car we must run in GT Mode since the default gearbox is way too long.
Someday... when I've found a funny combo with it

 

[Tyre King]

Single Race is an Arcade Mode option. There's no way you can use the Super 7 in a Family Cup in GT Mode. Free run only is available.
IMO, this is a car we must run in GT Mode since the default gearbox is way too long.
Someday... when I've found a funny combo with it

Any smooth track, with LOTS of corners, in GT mode!

That's the ticket! 👍

Maybe GV full, or Apricot hill? Tsukuba is fun but short and i think tsukuba wet is just....................maybe..................? No, i was wrong, it would be a complete blast!

But unfortunately for the arcade fans it has to be Gt mode free run, as previously stated, the box is too long and this little rocket-ship is way too light for bumpy tracks without suspension tweaks.
However, it handles like a go-kart so it throttle oversteers beeaauuttifully!

Neil

 

[KLR142]

However, it handles like a go-kart so it throttle oversteers beeaauuttifully!

Ginetta G4 in GT mode isn't too far from the same... I think the Alfa GTV is like this as well, although heavier.

 

[Jump_Ace]

How about you take some laps with this combo Cyril and tell me what you think of it, its one of my fav combos I've done up at Bobkarts:

STOCK Audi R8 Race Car at Fuji 90's (Arcade Mode)

- or if that doesn't float your boat -

Fully Tuned Toyota GT One at Deep Forest (Arcade Mode)

jump_ace

 

[Tedehur]

I'll make sure I run them soon, but that might require me to change my plans in a close future

 

[Jump_Ace]

muhahahahaha!!!!

No worries if you dont like them, just an idea. Or we could also do another license test, maybe the Audi @ Sears Point? Or a classic combo we have done EVERY time at Bobkarts is the R92CP at Sarthe (which ever one has the turns on the back stretch). I hope Im not coming off as bossy or anything. Just throwing out ideas incase you are running low on 'ammo'

Jerome

 

[Tedehur]

Just throwing out ideas incase you are running low on 'ammo'

Running low on 'ammo' will probably never happen, since I post races here, sometimes on another board too, and still I wish I could post more than that.
I currently have races 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44 and 45 ready, plus 16 other races being tested.

Yet, I appreciate all suggestions and expect all of you to keep on throwing ideas in this thread. Even races that are ready can be adapted if someone proposes a better combo, or postponed if something happens (see week 34).
The great thing is that you'll never know what my initial plans were and how your suggestions affected them (and they probably do affect them more than you think)


Edit :
However, I must say that I prefer to post combos that we wouldn't race otherwise, and a licence or an LMP at La Sarthe are too cliché IMO.

 

[MisterWeary]

How about a race in a an SUV some time, something like that big Dodge or the Silverado...be different?

 

[Tedehur]

How about a race in a an SUV some time, something like that big Dodge or the Silverado...be different?

The Silverado was my initial pick for week 30 (at the N-ring), but I changed for the DB9 before posting the race. I thought it would be too much for a start.
Would you fancy a ride on Autumn Ring Mini or Motorland in such a barge ?

 

[MisterWeary]

The Silverado was my initial pick for week 30 (at the N-ring), but I changed for the DB9 before posting the race. I thought it would be too much for a start.
Would you fancy a ride on Autumn Ring Mini or Motorland in such a barge ?

Giddy-up!!! Something difficult...I vote we throw it round Tsukuba Wet

 

[Tyre King]

If i had my choice around Tsukuba wet, it would still be the Caterham Super-seven in GT mode.

Loads of fun!

Neil

 

[Kent]

No land-barges!

However, I do have a real suggestion.

Being that GT mode is on so many minds around the WRS, I think that it would be good to take full advantage of the unique elements to GT mode.

Specifically, I would like to see something like...

Fully modified ZZII on Motegi using R3 tires.

Fact is, the ZZII in arcade mode is the perfect example for hugo boss's opinion of Arcade mode.
A poopy understeer monster.

Alas! GT mode with a fully custom suspension, racing tires, and a spoiler could make the ZZII into one hell of a ride (or atleast a learning experience for all the in-experienced tuners out there).

In any case, the idea behind my suggestion is simple.

Use GT mode for the elements of GT4 we can not get from Arcade mode.

Racing tires on the super street cars that just aren't very good in Arcade mode. 👍

Spoilers/ downforce on cars that could easily use the potential given by added downforce (the dodge viper SRT 10 '03 or TVR Speed 12).

Which reminds me...
That's another great car for GT mode.

TVR Cerbera Speed 12 with racing tires, added spoiler, and fully custom suspension on Grand Valley!
(although I would preffer the Ring, but then again, I would do the Ring every week if I had the chance ).

So anyway, those are just some of my suggestions and more important than the specific combos suggested are the ideas behind those suggestions. 👍

Thanks for taking the time to read this,
-Kent

 

[Jump_Ace]

I've had some real problems with that Speed 12 in GT4. FAR too much wheelspin, and you MUST drive with TCS on. That combo would be a real challenge, but I'd rather see it on Deep Forest; we've done Grand Valley enough IMO. But that ZZII is a great ride I'll attest to that!

jump_ace

 

[fasj6418]

i can´t believe this is the first suggestion of 2006.

since we will be running the M3 GTR next week, would be nice to run in a tight track like new york... the car drives on rails, so a city course should be fun...

 

[Kent]

i can´t believe this is the first suggestion of 2006.

since we will be running the M3 GTR next week, would be nice to run in a tight track like new york... the car drives on rails, so a city course should be fun...

He speaks the truth.

However, may I suggest something?

Let's avoid using a course with lots of open straights...

I'm thinking we should go with something really curvy so we can take advantage of the handling this car offers.

A course like costa d amalfi or Hong Kong would be great for a car like the M3. 👍 👍

Btw, I think it would be great to also allow us the option of running the red NSX LM Concept Race Car.

Both the NSX and M3 weigh in at 1008kg after -10% KG.

Just allow full quick tune for the M3 and make sure the NSX is limited to the appropriate HP level (which would be easy with quick tune and verifiable since HP is printed in replays).

Plus, the NSX is slower for sure (I've tested this exact comparison with the help of Iceman back in something like oct. 2005).

Also, this would give us the chance to run a car similar to the McLaren (which would be nice for those of us who voted for the McLaren instead of the M3).

Finally, I must admit that since the NSX is slower, I am sure it wouldn't be used by many (other than those who don't care about their finish in an overall sense).

In any case, these are just my suggestion, take them for what you will.

But thanks for reading my suggestions.

 

[Tedehur]

Thanks for the input.
GTby Numbers have been running the M3 GTR at Hong-Kong recently. I have to check the exact race specs over there.
I'm still busy testing this car on all tracks, and I have a shortlist of 6 or 7 tracks already. The problem is to choose among them now


@FASJ : my combos are so lovely that nobody has been thinking at suggesting anything else for weeks (J/K)

 

[Kent]

That's true flat-out (about the suggestions). 👍

Also, if they are running Hong Kong over there I suggest we avoid it.
I like the idea of doing combos that aren't being done.

On that same note, that is why I voted the McLaren. 👍

Running the M3 GTR is basically running one of the most commonly used cars in the game- it gets old after a while.

I like seeing combos that aren't being done all over the place.
Doing the M3 Race car is the exact opposite of that.

Oh well, voting is voting and I can't deny that the WRS voted to run the M3.

I just see the M3 as one of those cars that is always being run somewhere... there's just nothing original about a combo using the M3.
Then again, who said the combo had to be original.

Good luck with picking the track flat-out.
We will all be patiently waiting to see what you come up with.

 

[Iceman]

I was playing around with the M3 GTR in GT Mode today, and it's tons more fun than arcade. 620 or so HP with NA tuning and 720, and its a fast, grippy drive 👍 Certainly more exciting than the arcade car and IMO a perfect candidate for a certain Apricot Hill

 

[KLR142]

I was playing around with the M3 GTR in GT Mode today, and it's tons more fun than arcade. 620 or so HP with NA tuning and 720, and its a fast, grippy drive 👍 Certainly more exciting than the arcade car and IMO a perfect candidate for a certain Apricot Hill

💡 I like this post...

 

[Falango]

I just wanted to suggest that I'd like to see more multi-lap races in the WRS. Running multi-lap, just 3-5 laps, depending on the length of the course, will show natural skill more than hotlaps. We will occasionally come across someone that posts a fast hotlap that doesn't usually sit atop the standings. Being able to put together 3 straight laps is much tougher. Just a suggestion though. I know there are multi-lap races in the WRS, but I'd like to see more.

 

[Kent]

I've got no problem with seeing a multi-lap race.

However, don't fool yourself into thinking there will be a big difference in the results of a hotlap .vs. multi-lap race.

I've been watching and racing in the WRS for a long time now and one thing I have learned is that people are pretty consistant (more or less).

If you're on the top for hotlaps, usually you are on the top for multi-lap races.

The only difference is how much time it takes to run the races (and there-in lies the difference in results).

Often times the Multi-lap race will give a talented racer less of a chance to do well because using the same amount of time during the week yields fewer attempts.

Both hotlaps and multi-lap races will nearly equally judge a racers skill. 👍

Personally, I think the biggest factor in what races will show a driver's skill comes in the form of what the race combo is.

For example...
My standings in a "Ring" hotlap and "Ring" multi-lap race will probably be very similar and appear to be relatively good.

However, on a couse like seattle, single lap or multiple laps- I'm doing poorly.

The point I mean to make is that we generally do better with certain tracks and cars than with certain lengths of races.

Plus, like I said, a longer race usually just handicaps those of us with less time for racing.
By doing that it becomes a question of:
Am I doing better in this multi-lap race because I'm more skilled and consistant or do I appear to be doing better because there are so many others who are doing worse? (thanks to the time limitations)

In any case, multi-lap or single lap, the track and car combo is what I care about.

That said, I would like to see us change things up a bit next week.
Something in Arcade mode maybe?
A solid performer too... Something that actually feels well balanced at full quick tune. 👍

Depending on the length of the race, I would pick a car that has a certain level of difficulty to drive... The longer the race, the easier the car should be to drive... The shorter the race, the more difficult the car can be to drive. 👍

Assuming we do more than one lap in the next race, I would pick something like a JGTC 300. 👍

Assuming we do a hotlap (my prefference), I would pick something like an LMP or high end street car.

In the end though, I would really just like to stress that ...
Whatever the selection is, the car should be balanced in full quick tune form.

Of course, that's all ignoring the fact that I would be perfectly happy running another GT Mode race.

Oh and btw,
I would love to see us do a race with a variety of cars to pick from.

However, that's a tall order to fill since coming up with compatible cars can be a real pain.

I would rather have a great race with one car to choose than a poor race with lots of cars... Then agian, if I could get a great race with lots of cars to choose.

And just for the sake of reminders...
The FF drivetrain is a part of the game that I think should be included in the WRS.

Finally, I just want to mention one last suggestion...
I would love to see us use some Road cars in GT mode that are horrible in Arcade mode (prefferably with racing tires).

The ZZ-II comes to mind.

 

[Falango]

Ya I know multi-lap will give us fewer chances to run. I liek the idea of having different cars to choose from. Or have an open race, where for example, you can choose any Japanese RWD car that can be modded anyway you want under 400hp on this track. That gives everyone lots of options. This way, everyone can use their own style of driving. Not all combos will suit everyone's driving style. The current race, week 42, doesn't really suit my style well. I like to drive it hard into the corners with a bit of oversteer.

I do agree with all the unique combos though where drivers are forced outside their comfort zone in order to accomodate the driving style needed. That proves just how much skill some of our drivers have, by being able to handle any car in any situation.

Would be cool to try a round on an F1 circuit with the F1 car, but not everyone has the F1 car, including me. Would be interesting comparing the times to real times on those tracks with real F1 cars.

 

[MisterWeary]

Ya I know multi-lap will give us fewer chances to run. I liek the idea of having different cars to choose from. Or have an open race, where for example, you can choose any Japanese RWD car that can be modded anyway you want under 400hp on this track. That gives everyone lots of options. This way, everyone can use their own style of driving. Not all combos will suit everyone's driving style. The current race, week 42, doesn't really suit my style well. I like to drive it hard into the corners with a bit of oversteer.

I do agree with all the unique combos though where drivers are forced outside their comfort zone in order to accomodate the driving style needed. That proves just how much skill some of our drivers have, by being able to handle any car in any situation.

Would be cool to try a round on an F1 circuit with the F1 car, but not everyone has the F1 car, including me. Would be interesting comparing the times to real times on those tracks with real F1 cars.

Well unfortunately we've raced the F1 not all that long ago so it's not likely to reappear for a while but I for one would support racing it again, it's such a blast to drive. I kept racing it around Monaco until I beat Schuey's record (1'14.439), finally got a 1'14.277 👍

 

[TheWizard]

For the multiple cars to choose from, Week 19 comes into mind - Laguna Seca with American cars. That was a blast!

I think it's time Laguna Seca makes a return 👍

Maybe with European cars to choose from, this time?
💡 Can we fit some Italian cars in there, too? That would be awesome...

The Wizard.

 

[Casio]

I'd like to see a multiple car thingy involving some soft-tops.

Maybe Z4, S3400 (Boxster), S2000, Crossfire, SLK?, I'm sure there is a TVR?. I don't know, I know it's near impossible to get them all equal, But I just want to race the Z4!

Personally, I'm not a fan of multi-laps. Mainly because more often then not, you have to pass stupid AI along the way.

For some other random selections

- Something older, we always do newish cars. Lets do a 70s Euro, or an 80's Japanese car or something.
- Something on New York, I know we all hate it, but it's really not that bad. I much prefer it then doing the same tracks over and over.
- Like Kent, a FF would make a nice change. Golf GTi, Integra Type R, Leon Cupra R, Civic, Alfa's and more. Loads of great cars that really deserve to be used.
- Tsukuba Wet. For a nice change, lets get some sideway action. Maybe in a WRX, or EVO. Or Both.
- The R8, or Bentley, or Pescarolos. I know they're hard to get, but they are the really great cars in the game. They're just as hard to get as the FGT, which we've done.
- Le Mans, we havn't done it yet at all. Unless you count the licence test down the straight way back when I started. (Week 7 or 8)
- A Licence test or a mission. Just something different.

 

[Tedehur]

Everything you mention here is exactly what I'm busy working on.
Le Mans should be used within a few weeks, FF cars too, and I hope I can set up a multilapper soon (next week ?)
The problem with multilappers is that they remove a big part of the fun by introducing 5 stupid AI cars you have to pass. So it has to bring something extra to be worth running.
I mean, what would have been the point to run the BMW at Seattle as a multilapper ?
I posted only 2 multilappers since november, week 33, with JGTC on Motegi and week 36 with NOS on Seoul.
I'll do some extra testing and see if I can post a multilapper soon.