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A simplier answer would of been. "Dont race then" but i guess your version does the job.
 
Any GT-Mode rally sounds nice. :)

What's with all the recent reprimands, can we no longer state that we dislike something?
 
A few suggestions of my own... :sly:

Not cathedral rocks (so much more rally to do that we haven't done yet! ;) ) (did we do that in the hyundai with CFM?).

Rally: GT Mode-> Practice-> Any sub-400hp rally race car-> Grand Canyon forward or Chamineaux (sp?) forward.
(rally is still so foreign to so many of us that using reverse tracks would be crazy). :banghead:

For Road Races I can only suggest themes...
GT Mode:
Weight reduced Road cars on SS tires with 3.0 PWR or higher.
A single race car on stock or RSS tires (depending on pwr and grip).
Fully modified road car on RSS tires (high power super car).


Arcade mode is pretty easy... Just pick a car from one post around here and a track from another... Hotlap at standard OLR -10% weight and any HP. 👍
 
Must be about time for a Nurburgring race again 👍.
Wedsports celica on R5's full tune. Or similar style car.

If we run GT Mode, then have a car thats not too crazy. Possibly the RX7 LM.
How about a little less grip than R5s, like R4s, or maybe R3s... Back when we did the Audi on R5s(week 6, my first WRS ever!) I found it hard to get close to the limit because of the insane grip provided by the R5s. Sometimes it's nice having a little bit of slip in there. And the Wedsports isn't known for slip... But I haven't driven it full tune, so maybe it works out allright?

I'm down though! w00! 👍
 
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Arcade mode is pretty easy... Just pick a car from one post around here and a track from another... Hotlap at standard OLR -10% weight and any HP. 👍

Road car on RSS? Sound's like the Cerbera, maybe I should post my replay from whatever week it was when I used it when everyone else was using Supras. The thing has ridiculous turn in, cornering speeds are hard to comprehend, and braking is better than a lot of race cars with RSS tyres. Ok maybe not, but they're still very impressive.
 
A simplier answer would of been. "Dont race then" but i guess your version does the job.
You're right Fryz. I apologise Bigracer, I shouldn't have gone all postal on you. I said to Cyril before I took over this job that I'm a bit more moody than he was and I guess it's already starting to show...my bad :) 👍
What's with all the recent reprimands, can we no longer state that we dislike something?
I'm just touchy, if I can see a more polite way to make a point, I just think it should be done that way, maybe I'm wrong, I dunno, I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts on that.

Whatever the case, I like the suggestions thread getting pummeled with suggestions, makes it easier to know if a race I post is supported, cheers gang 👍
 
You're right Fryz. I apologise Bigracer, I shouldn't have gone all postal on you. I said to Cyril before I took over this job that I'm a bit more moody than he was and I guess it's already starting to show...my bad :) :tup:I'm just touchy, if I can see a more polite way to make a point, I just think it should be done that way, maybe I'm wrong, I dunno, I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts on that.
no problems mate, we're cool i hope. everyone has his own way of expressing himself and that was just me. i also hope you let me express my thoughts on races like i hope you express yours. that's all.
AND i have full confidence in you as our steward in your choices and pickings. 'chapeau' is the compliment the french would make (or isnt it cyril?).
 
Not cathedral rocks (so much more rally to do that we haven't done yet! ;) ) (did we do that in the hyundai with CFM?).

Bummer. I didn't know WRS used that one before. But, on the other hand, how many times has the Ring been used? 💡
(rally is still so foreign to so many of us that using reverse tracks would be crazy). :banghead:

This is exactly why WRS should do it... 👍

And.. MisterWeary, I think your race choices have been great. I have noticed an improvement in my driving as of late.👍
 
I agree jake, the challenges of GT4 should be brought to WRS, but it's got to be supported, if there's only a couple who like it I see no point in doing it.

The rally track I would be itching to have a go at is Cathedral Rocks II reverse. That's the one with the MASSIVE jump which is just sooooo much fun :) But as a track it is near on impossible to get a clean lap so it would just be a frustrating week for all involved I think :lol:
 
I agree jake, the challenges of GT4 should be brought to WRS, but it's got to be supported, if there's only a couple who like it I see no point in doing it.

The rally track I would be itching to have a go at is Cathedral Rocks II reverse. That's the one with the MASSIVE jump which is just sooooo much fun :) But as a track it is near on impossible to get a clean lap so it would just be a frustrating week for all involved I think :lol:

I hear you. These are just ideas I get when running WRS. I go race the weekly race for a few sessions then get some thought to switch it up and hop into whatever car I choose for the moment. I guess you can call it the SRS.... Spontaneous Racing Series, that is. :lol:
 
The rally track I would be itching to have a go at is Cathedral Rocks II reverse. That's the one with the MASSIVE jump which is just sooooo much fun :) But as a track it is near on impossible to get a clean lap so it would just be a frustrating week for all involved I think :lol:

I've been working on a project off and on (I'll be posting a thread soon about it), and was testing on this very track. The Hyundai Rally Car works well on this track. Just the right amount of power for the track.

But if we want to do a rally, we should do Chamionx with (nobody laugh) the Volvo Estate. It's hard at first, but once you get going, it's a lot of fun. It might have to be a two-weeker, though.
 
Hmm, I'm not a big fan of rally in GT4.
Has the BMW120 been used recently ? I would like to see it at Trial mountain, Deep forrest or any other twisty track.
After seeing how popular the License test was I would suggest a mission in the near future.
 
after all this talk about nurb i decided to do some trial runs there to see how it felt and how far away the corners have faded from memory, just to prepare for the inevitable. remembering the passion that ben and i share i picked the aston db7 on s3's with -20p/-10w to keep it well in control.
and guess what? it felt real nice and controllable, and only got off the track once at the end of the final stretch.

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so if nurb is coming up, please pick a car like that and i might even have fun that week!
 
funny. indeed i did not know of week 30. i would not have picked +20%, but otherwise the combo must have been good.
so i guess no astons at the ring then. i keep having wet dreams about the csl, so maybe that would be a cool choice, also since it is sort of the taxi around there.
 
If the Nurburgring comes up I would like to suggest a GT Mode race based on Max Power and PWR (as well as weight).
Having some choices about what car you drive on a course like the Ring can make all the difference in the world.
Problem is, you've just got to make sure you choose your PWR, KG, & HP limits well (as to make sure there are plenty of possible entries).

As for rally, you all go ahead with a reverse rally if you want. 👍
I do want to remind you all that the idea of the WRS has been discussed under the same premise as above... (none the less, reverse rally could be fun!)

The idea of racing as much as possible from GT in the WRS has been around for a long time. Many people throughout the series have worked under the assumption that we were supposed to explore everything in GT.
This is not the case.
Rather, the WRS is about having fun, pushing yourselves, pushing your friends, becoming better racers, and again... Having Fun!

Exploring every last part of the game is good for personal game-time if you are interested. But forcing the entire WRS to race something that isn't "main-stream" or "fun" might be pushing the "every aspect of GT" theme a little too far.
(this happend with BC comps in the past where differences of opinion regarding rally and tire selection became an issue)

There are many elements to GT that "most" of us do not find entertaining (regardless of the challenge) and forcing those elements into the WRS for the sake of including all of the game is not (IMO) a good idea or a basic premise of the WRS.

Remember, the WRS isn't here to serve as a polyphony digital feedback group. 👍
We don't need to use everything in the WRS... We just need to use what the WRS racers enjoy.

There in lies the problem for you MisterWeary- thinking of something fun, that hasn't been used, while sticking to a theme suggested by the WRS population.
It can be hard to do that but I know it is possible. :cheers:

And again, one more suggestion from me... :lol:
Nurburgring: GT Mode: Practice: Any Tuner, Concept, or Normal Car running SS (S3) tires.

For limitations I suggest max HP between 400-600 and min weight between 900-1100.

Just remember, weight can not be displayed so before you check on the weight of some cars make sure you are looking at fully weight reduced cars (assuming you look into the GT Mode race possibilities).

And last reminder... Remember, the WRS is here for people to push themselves and have fun doing it!
 
The rally track I would be itching to have a go at is Cathedral Rocks II reverse. That's the one with the MASSIVE jump which is just sooooo much fun :) But as a track it is near on impossible to get a clean lap so it would just be a frustrating week for all involved I think :lol:

Cathedral Rocks II is an absolutely brilliant track, easily my favourite rally track, and don't worry about scaring people off because of not having clean laps. I mean Cyril did brave having the Grand Canyon track one week, and then that one with the Lupo at Costa D'Amalfi. One of those Italian city ones...

And regarding all this 'Ring talk. I think having an open race with a horsepower limit would be great, considering that the last few open selection races narrowed it down to having one competitive car. So having the selection based on simply power and weight, and then allowing tuning, that's probably the most fair way of having an open race that still has a lot of cars capable of being competitive.
 
'chapeau' is the compliment the french would make (or isnt it cyril?).

Israelis aren't exactly known for originality, but that's what we use.

Stop. Right. There.

TMi

Uh-huh. The part with CSL around the 'Ring is acceptable (Although a BMW is the last thing I'd take to the GT4-'Ring), but the rest is... :scared:


Suggestions: 1st, I'd love another week at the 'Ring. Only... My GT4 disk seems to "forget" how to load it, since it's the only track where I still get DRE's. Weird...

I support the idea of another rally. Doesn't matter Tarmac or Dirt, doesn't matter Arcade or GT Mode. Only thing: Not too much power, cool car, and possibly fun. My suggestions:

Tracks:
  • Cathedral Rocks, Trail I (With Tarmac) Forward.
  • Grand Canyon Reverse (The 'Ring on Dirt)
  • Ice Arena Forward
  • Trial Mountain (Any)
  • Deep Forest Reverse
  • Motorland Reverse
  • Swiss Alps Reverse

Cars:
  • Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 (Road Car)
  • Toyota Celica '90s (4WD Roadcar)
  • Renault Turbo 5 (Road or Rallycar)
  • Mitsubishi Lancer Super-something (The one for 1.25million)
  • Lancia Stratos Rallycar (Been used before)
  • VW Bora 4Motion/Beetle RSi
  • Subaru Impreza Rallycar '99 and earlier
  • Subaru Impreza (pre-Bugeye) Roadcar (GT Mode)
  • Mitsubishi Lance GT-A Roadcar, semi-tune (~<400HP), GT Mode

As you can see, I'm all open for roadcars, providing they're not extremely overpowered. Those without 4wd, obviously, belong more in the tarmac section, but they're still welcome as dirt-kickers. Which brings me to my last suggestion:

  • Renault Clio Renaultsport 172 @ Cathedral Rocks I (Tarmac)

As much as it (^) sounds like the worst combo ever imaginable (FF? Dirt? Long Dirt? FF+Dirt? :scared:), it's a very enjoyable one, with me (Mr. Slow) getting ~2 minute laps. It can be replaced with Swiss Alps...
 
The idea of racing as much as possible from GT in the WRS has been around for a long time. Many people throughout the series have worked under the assumption that we were supposed to explore everything in GT.
This is not the case.
Rather, the WRS is about having fun, pushing yourselves, pushing your friends, becoming better racers, and again... Having Fun!

Exploring every last part of the game is good for personal game-time if you are interested. But forcing the entire WRS to race something that isn't "main-stream" or "fun" might be pushing the "every aspect of GT" theme a little too far.
(this happend with BC comps in the past where differences of opinion regarding rally and tire selection became an issue)

There are many elements to GT that "most" of us do not find entertaining (regardless of the challenge) and forcing those elements into the WRS for the sake of including all of the game is not (IMO) a good idea or a basic premise of the WRS.

Remember, the WRS isn't here to serve as a polyphony digital feedback group. 👍
We don't need to use everything in the WRS... We just need to use what the WRS racers enjoy.

There in lies the problem for you MisterWeary- thinking of something fun, that hasn't been used, while sticking to a theme suggested by the WRS population.
It can be hard to do that but I know it is possible. :cheers:

You are right Kent,some wise words.👍

I would like to add that something fun that has been used is still fun.
Every month we have new drivers and for them it is no problem to race a track/car combination which is almost simular as week 20 or 35.
Don't make the wrs only for the elite,extreme is fine but not to often...
 
Hmmm... Did I hear something? Hmmm... I think I did. Just please please please make it fully modded in GT Mode... Because it's an absolute disgrace to the car in any other setup. Sure, the car DOES flop around like that in real life, but it's power to weight ratio is way the F off. Not only is it closer to 500kg or maybe even more lighter to begin with, but it's quite easy to make a heck of a lot more than 285hp with one of these things... Maybe in GT5 they'll get it right?

BUT HELL YES! BRING IT ON! (not necessarily at a rally track, but, eh, you can't win'm all, and they do indeed rally these things)

And, I really, really like Kent's rundown of a 'Ring race. ;) ;) 👍 👍
 
again, sorry if i misexpressed with my 'wet dreams' words, in our country and language it is a way of expressing something you find extremely attractive.
 
Haha, no, I think it's fine, everyone's just being funny about it... :) 👍

The Volvo is fun in GT Mode with everything EXCEPT for power upgrades(oil change only), for what it's worth. Makes it quite like driving an ITB prepped version. Tons of grip, tons of braking, awesome handling, and no power. 👍
 
Thanks Sjaak68, glad you liked my words. :)

I spent some time thinking about my suggestions. They are awefully vague at points and often I forget to mention key ideas... Here are a few more thoughts to add on what I've already mentioned.

If we run the Ring, please make it a one car race. I know I was encouraging multi-car events earlier, but when you're on the Ring it is nice to just get in and drive (not worry about which car is the fastest).

Also, for what I'd love to race next week on a more specific level...
Subaru Imprezas VS Mitsubishi Evolutions @ Grand Valley East (S3 tires ??? pwr cap and full weight reductions). 👍 👍
(GT wings and no Nos!) :sly:
 
The next race has been prepared based on some of the earlier suggestions. But I have a race idea that incorporates some of these newer ideas. Like I said, suggestions are good...love em 👍
 
ITB cars in the making... Low power, tons of grip, awesome brakes. Aka, fully modded GT Mode, wing optional, oil change only. Or to deal with the weight maybe we can add in an exhaust and a Stage 1 NA tune as these cars can run a slightly hotter factory cam and whatever exhaust you want. R3 or softer tires though required to get the real effect...

In sequence:
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Sorry about the pictures, let me know if you want me to edit them into links...

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