Tesla Master Plan: Part Deux

[ScottPuss20]

Cybertruck? What the ****?

 

[Moglet]

It looks like a truck from a PS1 game or like it hasn't fully rendered yet.

#PS1Hagrid

Edit: Where is the tow hook and the side mirrors?

I was going to say the same thing, it looks like a low LOD model that someone accidentally exported and they ran with it

 

[TS050]

It looks like something that belongs in Twisted Metal

 

[FT-1]

I was going to say the same thing, it looks like a low LOD model that someone accidentally exported and they ran with it

Pretty much this. It's as if the design team couldn't wait for the model to finish rendering so they took the sample that was created when it was 40% complete.

 

[homeforsummer]

Sorry for the awful resolution,

No no that's how it actually looks.

 

[baldgye]

Those tyres look like a they'll make for a fun ride on roads...

 

[VXR]

Jumped the shark, guys.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Happy November Fool's Day?

 

[RocZX]

 

[andrea]

They designed this on Nintendo 64, didn’t they?

 

[AudiMan2011]

They designed this on a Nintendo 64, didn’t they?

I think it was designed more on a Commodore 64, let alone a Nintendo 64

 

[Dan]

Really makes you wonder what Elon was actually smoking...

 

[MIE1992]

It looks as ugly as its logotype.

 

[Danoff]

Bottom line, this is not going to sell well. And at this point, they kindof have to sell it... so.... I hope @Eunos_Cosmo didn't make that bet.

Edit:

Down 6.5% already today

 

[baldgye]

I actually really like the look of it.

It also looks like nothing else. Maybe it's just me, but Tesla's looked so non-descipt, fairly dull and American and I guess I mean that final point in not a great way in regards to consumer cars (at least in the UK).

So the fact they went with something so radical is awesome. I think it looks great, though not sure about the rear-view mirror and the lack of wing mirros...

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Bottom line, this is not going to sell well. And at this point, they kindof have to sell it... so.... I hope @Eunos_Cosmo didn't make that bet.

Edit:

Down 6.5% already today

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Bottom line, this is not going to sell well. And at this point, they kindof have to sell it... so.... I hope @Eunos_Cosmo didn't make that bet.

Edit:

Down 6.5% already today

Ha! I nearly did but averted at the last moment. Whew.

That said, I don't hate the truck. I wish the design was a little more refined and a little less like a movie prop, but the basic shape is pretty interesting. It's funny we associate such designs as being very 1980s but Bertone and Giugiaro really penned these lines in the 1960s. I'd even argue that they were influenced by mid-century modern architecture and design...a kind of resurgence of early Le Corbusier architecture from the 1900s...who himself was influenced by (and kind of a part of) the cubist painters of the turn of the century!

 

[TexRex]

During the live demonstration, however, things took an unexpected turn when Tesla's lead designer, Franz von Holzhausen, threw a metal ball at two of the truck's "armor glass" windows, smashing them.

Musk was caught off guard and uttered an expletive before saying that the ball "didn't go through — that's a plus side" and telling the audience that Tesla would fix the problem "in post."

https://markets.businessinsider.com...ck-windows-break-live-demo-2019-11-1028711470

So...software update then? I shudder to think how much wireless data that fix will require.

 

[McLaren]

The armored glass inclusion is strange. How many people actually need that? Wonder how much of the cost could be cut if they left that out.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I didn't see it mentioned explicitly, but does this truck have independent rear suspension? That will be interesting carrying 3500lbs in the bed.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Wonder how much of the cost could be cut if they left that out.

Probably more if it actually worked.

Tesla "Armor Glass".. it's either tested to ballistic standards or it's not. If it's not and Musk's making this claim, the embarrasment on stage is totally deserved. It's like the whole Autopilot thing... call it something that clearly implies something, but fail to deliver it.

 

[TexRex]

I didn't see it mentioned explicitly, but does this truck have independent rear suspension? That will be interesting carrying 3500lbs in the bed.

I can't find anything on its suspension beyond it being air sprung at least in part, but the apparent lack of anything below the rear hub centerline suggests that it is independent...unless it's equipped with portal axles. That seems unlikely, though. Tesla's tried-and-true drivetrain configuration also suggests that it's independent if they have stuck to that formula.

Provided individual components and the manner by which they're attached are appropriately robust--and there's nothing that says they can't be--that load rating isn't particularly absurd.

 

[homeforsummer]

Ha! I nearly did but averted at the last moment. Whew.

That said, I don't hate the truck. I wish the design was a little more refined and a little less like a movie prop, but the basic shape is pretty interesting. It's funny we associate such designs as being very 1980s but Bertone and Giugiaro really penned these lines in the 1960s. I'd even argue that they were influenced by mid-century modern architecture and design...a kind of resurgence of early Le Corbusier architecture from the 1900s...who himself was influenced by (and kind of a part of) the cubist painters of the turn of the century!

The Italians might have been influenced in turn by those earlier painters or architects, but I strongly suspect Tesla took no such influence.

A Bertone wedge from the 1970s is typically impeccably detailed and proportioned. This thing is just a bunch of straight lines thrown together with little consideration for the overall form.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

The Italians might have been influenced in turn by those earlier painters or architects, but I strongly suspect Tesla took no such influence.

A Bertone wedge from the 1970s is typically impeccably detailed and proportioned. This thing is just a bunch of straight lines thrown together with little consideration for the overall form.

Oh no doubt. Hence the "I wish the design was a little more refined". The Tesla looks like an early concept sketch, in comparison. The Hyundai 45 concept is much more successful at playing this game, IMO.

I can't find anything on its suspension beyond it being air sprung at least in part, but the apparent lack of anything below the rear hub centerline suggests that it is independent...unless it's equipped with portal axles. That seems unlikely, though. Tesla's tried-and-true drivetrain configuration also suggests that it's independent if they have stuck to that formula.

Provided individual components and the manner by which they're attached are appropriately robust--and there's nothing that says they can't be--that load rating isn't particularly absurd.

My thinking is the camber change under load...unless they stiffen the suspension so much (when loaded) that it doesn't compress. Or maybe they'll do some fancy unequal length upper and lower control arms to control it.

 

[buickgnx88]

 

[Populuxe]

Not my image. I found it on twitter. It might even be a good truck, but I'd be too busy laughing at it to get any work done.

 

[Dan]

 

[ProjectWHaT]

If the whole car is made using the super strong stainless steel, are there any crumble zones? How is it going to absorb any energy in an impact? And how is it going to pass any EU pedestrian safety regulations with all those sharp corners?

 

[TexRex]

My thinking is the camber change under load...unless they stiffen the suspension so much (when loaded) that it doesn't compress. Or maybe they'll do some fancy unequal length upper and lower control arms to control it.

Ah, sure. I think we can get an idea of how the wheel will respond to load here:



There appears to be a fair amount of camber change (not necessarily excessive given the six or so inches of elevation change) as the rear squats down to allow loading of the ATV, which rules out a live axle and all but completely rules out a strut-type suspension. Seems it's primarily air sprung as well.

 

[Disco_Volante]

If the whole car is made using the super strong stainless steel, are there any crumble zones? How is it going to absorb any energy in an impact? And how is it going to pass any EU pedestrian safety regulations with all those sharp corners?

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Will they even sell it in Europe? Other trucks like it aren't sold here, so it would surprise me if this one did.

And the crumple zone thing is concerning. They're not legally required, and if you read what people say about images of crashed cars will show you that a lot of people believe they're a bad thing. And a similar misbelief in their safety was an important factor the rise of SUVs and similar taller cars. Maybe Tesla just said "**** it" and simply made the car as strong as they could.

But then again Tesla's are very safe according to many people who most certainly are impartial, so maybe it's just very well designed. I certainly hope it is.