TGC 2.0 Week One---*RESULTS POSTED!!*

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T1: 22.114 ( Seems to not be getting better here)
T2: 40.078


Starting to get the feel for the track and car! Need to somehow get tighter runs on the T1 and keep things going from there! I just don't think I have the skills to put the car where it should be!
 
mafia_boy
I can see where I've lost most of my time in that video. 👍
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Anyone can use it as help, that's actually one of the reasons why I recorded the whole lap. We're all doing this challenge for fun (At least I do and hope you guys do, too), so I see no problem providing a video and giving some tips / hints. :) 👍

What happened to Corey anyways? :( His last log in was on January 5th. Hope he's okay.
 
I'm going to drive for ECT but also build a car for this challenge.The only question i have is what time am i spliting?
 
You can't do that. Or can you?
 
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mazdaman
I'm going to drive for ECT but also build a car for this challenge.The only question I have is what time am I splitting?
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Capital "I"s please mazdaman, don't say you're not aware of this. 👎

The split times are the times that come up during the lap, one as you're passing through the tunnel (T1), and the second in the run up to the final hairpin (T2).

Save your best clean ghost replay, go to the replay theatre to watch the replay and note down the times that flash up on the screen when you pass those points.

Entries for cars to TGC 2.0 closed on January 3rd, so it's kind of pointless building a new car as it won't be allowed to enter.

Whoa! Lucas! Those are some crazy splits!!! :bowdown:
 
Smallhorses
Whoa! Lucas! Those are some crazy splits!!! :bowdown:
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Thanks Nick, it means a lot coming from you. 👍 But to me, it may as well be the car the one who's obtaining those times, not me. Got to thank RJ for that. :)
 
Sure, but only up to T2. It's not my final lap. It will take me around five minutes to have the video on the computer, and I don't know how long until I upload it. No problem, it will be here. 👍

EDIT: Video taken. Next step: transfer it to the PC, then upload to YouTube. 👍
EDIT2: This will take a while to upload, around one hour. :ill:
 
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Chipping away...

T1: 21.329
T2: 39.234

Made a bit of a mess in the last corner, but it's still an improvement.
 
Uploaded video, here it is.



For those who may have trouble looking at the second split, I took a picture of it.

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Hope that helps. 👍
 
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Also chipping away at this slowly, but will probably have to submit my final time later as we're off to Tahoe for the weekend. 👍

T1 21.351
T2 39.180
 
With quite a few more laps, I was able to improve my time somewhat; my splits are now 21.376 - 39.003. The mediocre T1 reveals that I took the first corner poorly, and I've done better in the turns immediately before and after T1, but I really think that I'm approaching the limits of this car. It simply understeers too much on this track to be as fast as some other cars; I just hope that it matches future track selections better than it does this one.

I suspect that it can be quite a bit faster in the first turn with some deft throttle and brake control, but I handicap myself by using the analog sticks; overlapping braking with throttle is impossible without using the buttons. That might help, but what would help much more is the ability to "feather" the brakes. That's certainly possible with the sticks, but I've never been good at it because it's hard to judge how much to more your thumb in order to get a specific amount of braking. A wheel is ideal for this particular turn because of the more precise control that it can give you, but the DS2 has definite advantages, as well, particularly with cars that oversteer (and this one doesn't).
 
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I think my splits are the best I can get for this one cant see any where for improvement.so running with this car my times wont be very good.
 
I just did something weird....went slower in my T1-T2's and wound up with a quicker lap. :odd: I'll keep the current times up there though so I know what to aim for on my next run. 👍 If I keep my older T1-T2 + this T3, another 0.3sec gets taken off and I'm back in the game. :cool:
 
Thanks for the video, Lucas. I see your M5 reaches well over 290 km/h on the straight, which speaks for its great amount of power. Overall very good lap, but I see where you could've gotten more out of the car... ;)
 
Austin343
I suspect that it can be quite a bit faster in the first turn with some deft throttle and brake control, but I handicap myself by using the analog sticks; overlapping braking with throttle is impossible without using the buttons. That might help, but what would help much more is the ability to "feather" the brakes. That's certainly possible with the sticks, but I've never been good at it because it's hard to judge how much to more your thumb in order to get a specific amount of braking.
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You should definitely use the "normal" buttons. To me, they are the best. It isn't hard to feather the buttons at all once you get the hang of it. 👍
 
T1: 21.312
T2: 39.306

That's almost all I can squeeze. Seen the laps, I told you you didn't have to reveal your hand Nenad, but as that was at your discretion.. I need a steadier confirmation on the tires used or otherwise I'm still going to suspect fowl play on default.. It's badly suspicious looking that the cam was all over the place for the crucial part of the lap and quite steady for the rest. Especially bad for someone using a cell phone, no matter how crappy.


Meanwhile, Lucas, you're inhuman. Fricken green-skinned as toxic sludge. God rot all of you. :P


Cheers,
Jetboy
 
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I had to adjust the camera perspective and I hand one hand only for the mobile phone. Anyways, I have no camcorder and no access to another mobile phone. Mine is dead, as said before. The tyres are R1s 100%. I'm doing this for fun, so why would I make a replay that is suspicious?! Actually, I tried my best to make everything visible enough.
 
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Jetboy.
Meanwhile, Lucas, you're inhuman. Fricken green-skinned as toxic sludge. God rot all of you. :P
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A description that is best suited to a certain person driving a C5-R. :P If you ask him about a certain matter involving a Yellowbird at Nürburgring, you will find out I'm not as green-skinned as you believe I am. :lol:

I'm planning on lowering the new time, though. Where have you been, if you don't mind me asking?
 
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Codename L
You should definitely use the "normal" buttons. To me, they are the best. It isn't hard to feather the buttons at all once you get the hang of it. 👍
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See, I'm not so sure of that. Even when taking into account the disadvantages of the analog sticks - the inability to overlap throttle and brake and the difficulty of moderating braking - I believe that they are better. For one, no matter how well one can feather the X button, the stick blows it away in terms of the ease and precision of throttle control. Getting an exact amount of throttle is very tricky with the button, and hard to execute consistently, while doing so with the stick is very easy. Steering is also smoother, and controlling slides (especially exiting them) is much more intuitive and easier, but what in my view is a primary advantage has nothing to do with speed. Lapping for long sessions, whether in time trials like this one or in an endurance race, is seriously painful with the buttons, but the only discomfort that you will ever experience with the analog sticks is in cars that understeer badly, in which the subconscious tendency is to press your right hand quite hard into the side of the controller, producing wrist tightness.

Nenad
I had to adjust the camera perspective and I hand one hand only for the mobile phone. Anyways, I have no camcorder and no access to another mobile phone. Mine is dead, as said before. The tyres are R1s 100%. I'm doing this for fun, so why would I make a replay that is suspicious?! Actually, I tried my best to make everything visible enough.
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Nenad, he has a point, although I think that his suspicions are excessive; I think that the blurred text looks wide enough to contain the seven characters in "RSH/RSH," but it certainly would put our minds at ease if you could find a way to hold the phone more steadily so that we could clearly see it before it fades. The only doubt in my mind is how you can set a good T1 despite going wide in the second part of the first corner complex and using nowhere near all of the track exiting the turn right before the split. Again, that doesn't mean that I doubt you, but that, combined with the lack of one key piece of information, is why it's possible to believe that you're using R2s.
 
Austin343
Nenad, he has a point, although I think that his suspicions are excessive; I think that the blurred text looks wide enough to contain the seven characters in "RSH/RSH," but it certainly would put our minds at ease if you could find a way to hold the phone more steadily so that we could clearly see it before it fades. The only doubt in my mind is how you can set a good T1 despite going wide in the second part of the first corner complex and using nowhere near all of the track exiting the turn right before the split. Again, that doesn't mean that I doubt you, but that, combined with the lack of one key piece of information, is why it's possible to believe that you're using R2s.
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I see your point. The reason for that good T1 time is the turn before the tunnel. Also, sliding through the first corner helped. I was too early on the throttle for the second corner, but lift it and gave full throttle again. But that's not the point. The point is that there are suspicions and I don't want anyone to think that I'm a cheater. There's absolutely no reason to cheat. But if you want to, you can DQ my laptime for this week and I won't post any time for this week. Just give me zero points and it's solved. There are next weeks where I can show good performance. 👍

EDIT: Don't think that I "want to escape from posting a new video". It's just that I haven't got the mobile phone anymore and have no camcorder to record it. Damn... This is getting nowhere?!
 
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I don't believe it's necessary, RH instead of RSH tyres would give a much bigger boost than a couple of tenths of a second in my opinion. My lines in the Spirra are much the same as Nenad's, perhaps due to the inherently oversteery nature of the MR layout, but I hit the same sort of T1 and I too dipped 2 wheels onto the grass exiting the 2nd part of the first turn.

I'm wondering where my MFT teammates are this week? No splits from Greycap or Leonidae.
 
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