Thanks, course cutting cheaters.

[cenk]

TO: lawnmovers, wall bouncers and lap dancers

A real race car driver
- never go 4OFF on grass intentionally
- never hits the walls
- accepts his lower spot/loss on that day, resets himself and trys harder

Fairplay is everything.

A good gamer
- always finds cheats to get better
- always defends himself saying "do it if you can"
- always blames the loopholes
- never plays fair, winning is winning mentality rises

They are looking for a race car driver, not a gamer. People who can understand this and do the transition from the game to the real life will succeed.

I will recommend the cheaters go wear skirts before round 3.


good luck,

cenk

 

[95BlkMiata-038]

Well said.👍

 

[Camasi]

Gee-dub-ya that is ok in rally events. Not on race tracks.

 

[Gee-dub-ya]

TO: lawnmovers, wall bouncers and lap dancers

A real race car driver
- never go 4OFF on grass intentionally
- never hits the walls
- accepts his lower spot/loss on that day, resets himself and trys harder

Fairplay is everything.

A good gamer
- always finds cheats to get better
- always defends himself saying "do it if you can"
- always blames the loopholes
- never plays fair, winning is winning mentality rises

They are looking for a race car driver, not a gamer. People who can understand this and do the transition from the game to the real life will succeed.

I will recommend the cheaters go wear skirts before round 3.


good luck,

cenk

Gee-dub-ya that is ok in rally events. Not on race tracks.

Every car totally cutting the chicane all 4 wheels on the dirt no penalties

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FH6R5do6c8&feature=related

lads check the link i've quoted, real racers put all 4 wheels off on a crace track because it's faster, real racers don't accept lower spots.

Ever watch Senna V Prost, they will win at all costs, Schumacher parked his Ferrari blocking the track at monaco halting qualifying just to secure his position.

Real lifer racers will do whatever it takes to win

you won't find wall bouncing videos as that's not a realistic option

 

[Dr_Watson]

TO: lawnmovers, wall bouncers and lap dancers

A real race car driver
- never go 4OFF on grass intentionally
- never hits the walls
- accepts his lower spot/loss on that day, resets himself and trys harder

Fairplay is everything.

A good gamer
- always finds cheats to get better
- always defends himself saying "do it if you can"
- always blames the loopholes
- never plays fair, winning is winning mentality rises

They are looking for a race car driver, not a gamer. People who can understand this and do the transition from the game to the real life will succeed.

I will recommend the cheaters go wear skirts before round 3.


good luck,

cenk

I approve this message.

 

[brianm3]

Every car totally cutting the chicane all 4 wheels on the dirt no penalties

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FH6R5do6c8&feature=related

They aren't putting 4 wheels off at this race. The cars are still putting the left side tires on the curbing in the chicane and on some of the passing they are running slightly wide which is normal. If your talking about the first lap yes two cars went inside the curbing and you can notice they took out the pylons while doing so. If they did not gain a position from doing so then the race director will not give a drive-through at the start of the race. European tracks usually have 4/5 foot wide flat curbs with built out runoff areas. This is just a case of a hard faught tourning car race at a tight track.

What people were doing in GT5 was completely different. If someone can't tell the difference then they shouldn't be involved in motorsports.

 

[Forcednduckshn]

Corner cutting is just not confined to games, it happens in real life events, if the lines quicker then it gets used

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People like you, who are argue the validity of cheating in GT5, f&*cking disgust me.

 

[Gee-dub-ya]

People like you, who are argue the validity of cheating in GT5, f&*cking disgust me.

I'm not arguing the validity of cheating in the game at all, I hate cheats that cut corners in the game,the chicanes at monza and nurburgring gp especially.

Was just pointing out that corners get cut in real life as well. Of course they don't get cut in real life to the extent they do in the game, it would never work. The tyres would be ruined for a good few corners afterwards and the track officials would penalize the offenders.

It was more aimed at the people saying real drivers wouldn't try and gain an advantage by other means.

 

[Forcednduckshn]

I'm not arguing the validity of cheating in the game at all, I hate cheats that cut corners in the game,the chicanes at monza and nurburgring gp especially.

Was just pointing out that corners get cut in real life as well. Of course they don't get cut in real life to the extent they do in the game, it would never work. The tyres would be ruined for a good few corners afterwards and the track officials would penalize the offenders.

It was more aimed at the people saying real drivers wouldn't try and gain an advantage by other means.

Fair Enough. The course cutting stuff at Indy, and the wall-bouncing at Madrid is just pathetic. The offenders should be banned, let the clean racers battle.

 

[Gee-dub-ya]

Fair Enough. The course cutting stuff at Indy, and the wall-bouncing at Madrid is just pathetic. The offenders should be banned, let the clean racers battle.

Yeah they should ban them, but people need to stop thinking real life racers wouldn't push the limits of legality as well.

 

[SAMHAIN85]

 

[Kwicko]

I'm not arguing the validity of cheating in the game at all, I hate cheats that cut corners in the game,the chicanes at monza and nurburgring gp especially.

Was just pointing out that corners get cut in real life as well. Of course they don't get cut in real life to the extent they do in the game, it would never work. The tyres would be ruined for a good few corners afterwards and the track officials would penalize the offenders.

It was more aimed at the people saying real drivers wouldn't try and gain an advantage by other means.

This sounds like a pretty good case for having "track officials" review the videos. If the cutters/wall-riders are found to have gained a competitive advantage, they get penalized for it. Since you can't really to a drive-thru penalty in this venue, how about a 4-second penalty, or a 10 grid spot penalty? That should clear out the riff-raff quite nicely, I would think.

And yes, the penalty SHOULD BE greater than the crime in a case like this, because if you could gain .6 seconds doing a few cuts and tagging a wall, and you only got penalized .5 seconds for doing so, then you actually GAIN .1 second by cheating. Make it so that .6-second gain COSTS you four seconds (or ten spots on the leaderboard), and it's suddenly not worth even trying it. You stand to lose far more than you'd gain.

 

[Drift260Z]

yea! to all those that thing the truly great drivers would never push what was legal on a track are idiots! you never saw Senna doing that!


err.....


well.....what about Dale Earnhardt? he was one of the best ever in NASCAR, right???



err.....

well what about Jorg Bergmeister? he's one of the world's top Porsche drivers, and a REALLY great contender in the incredible racing series ALMS where they're known for incredibly tight but fair competition, right?


umm.....

let's maybe try a different year, I'm sure this isn't all the time, right?


uhh...ok, I'm just out of ideas here.....

 

[BigYoSpeck]

There is a Youtube tag if you want to prove your point via video's

 

[Drift260Z]

FISXD!!! lol

 

[GT Motion]

well what about Jorg Bergmeister? he's one of the world's top Porsche drivers, and a REALLY great contender in the incredible racing series ALMS where they're known for incredibly tight but fair competition, right?

Jorg had every right to push that douche into the wall! The vette's were driving like idiots all day, and he hit the rear end of Jorg's car coming onto the straight which lifted his rear wheels on the exit losing him a ton of speed, if you saw any other coverage on this you would have heard many commentators noting that the vette made a dirty move. He deserved to get pushed into the wall he made a douche move. What happened in that video was justice.

 

[blindsidefive0]

There's a lot of race videos. These aren't really relevant. Think about it - if this kind of crap was happening in Round 4, then the race videos make sense.

I want someone to show a video of a 4 off corner cut during a timed qualifying run - something like skipping the busstop at Watkins Glen, 4 off at the corkscrew at Laguna, or slicing up one of the chicanes at Circuit de la Sarthe...during qualifying any of this would get your lap thrown out, plain and simple.

 

[Kwicko]

There's a lot of race videos. These aren't really relevant. Think about it - if this kind of crap was happening in Round 4, then the race videos make sense.

I want someone to show a video of a 4 off corner cut during a timed qualifying run - something like skipping the busstop at Watkins Glen, 4 off at the corkscrew at Laguna, or slicing up one of the chicanes at Circuit de la Sarthe...during qualifying any of this would get your lap thrown out, plain and simple.

Bingo - and this *IS* qualifying, pure and simple. This is the shot to move on to the next round of qualifying.

In a race, things might happen - you might bang into somebody (either accidentally or on purpose, or even "accidentally-on-purpose"), you might miss a corner and go four-off, you might tag a wall a bit, and you may or may not get called on it and incur a penalty for doing so. In qualifying, though, you're pretty much guaranteed to have your lap thrown out for those kinds of things.

 

[Studentdriver]

For those using real life racing series as an example, consider the following:

The instances you cite occur in officially sanctioned racing series with specific rules, run by teams that have budgets in the millions of dollars. In GT Academy we are running an online, time-trial based competition with a very broad and unclear rule-set, run by individuals in their homes on a budget anywhere from a hundred dollars to a couple thousand. In the real-life examples, teams face fines and points penalties if determined to be cheating. In GT Academy, individuals are face...well...we don't know. Could be getting kicked out of a competition which may provide your only chance at a racing career, and no penalty is just as likely, potentially ending the chances of anyone that did not take certain advantages.

tl;dr - Apples and oranges.

 

[redcouch1212]

You guys need to relax...