The Avengers: Age of Ultron is Live. Don't forget the Spoiler Tags, Damnit.Movies 

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Actually, the rights are staying with Sony. Sony still has full creative control over the web-slinger, including casting, but this third go around with Spider-man is that the character is actually being introduced in the MCU. The only concession on Marvel's part is that Kevin Finge is consulting on the next Spider-man solo film.

So in a way everyone got what they really wanted, including Ms. Pascal.
 
Tornado
Well, not the people who have zero interest in Spiderman hitting up high school again (everyone not financially involved).
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It's possible that they will do what they did with Bruce Banner in The Avengers, and treat the previous films as semi-canonical. Its success would hinge on some good casting (like with Mark Ruffalo), but they could easily treat the previous films as happening on an alternative version of Earth without directly referencing it.
 
sems4arsenal
But again how does a recast aid Sony with their Spidey universe.
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It doesn't. But they have completely mishandled the franchise, to the point where they are asking for outside help. If Feige and Marvel advise them to recast the role, then they will likely recast the role.
 
Some sources are now claiming that we will not see a third rehash of Peter Parker's origin, but instead Miles Morales. This may have been stemmed from the Sony hack. That and the fact that Sony is actively looking for Latino and African-American actors.
 
Sanji Himura
Some sources are now claiming that we will not see a third rehash of Peter Parker's origin, but instead Miles Morales. This may have been stemmed from the Sony hack. That and the fact that Sony is actively looking for Latino and African-American actors.
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I hope that new suit is flame-resistant.

But if this is true: Donald Glover or go home.

I think the bigger issue that using Morales would present is that they went out of their way to get a character that is pivotal to the storyline in the comics, but then change his identity to the one that is only in one series that carries that character's name.

It's like they were going. "We have to have Spiderman. We have to have Spiderman. We have to have Spiderman. Not that Spiderman."
 
Plauseable theory: They will use Peter Parker in Civil War, but instead of Cap being killed, It's Parker taking Crossbones' bullet. Insert new Spider-man here.
 
Sanji Himura
Plauseable theory: They will use Peter Parker in Civil War, but instead of Cap being killed, It's Parker taking Crossbones' bullet. Insert new Spider-man here.
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Could work, but then where do we add in the new origin story?


EDIT: Actually, it creates an issue unless the Hydra threat is completely resolved in AoU.
 
It won't be possible to use someone besides Peter Parker, at least at the start. Despite the multiplicity of comics, the "Superior Spiderman" (Doc Oc's brain in Peter's body) angle, Miles, Miguel, Silk, Spider-Gwen, the whole cross-dimensional Spider-thingamajiggy going on and whatnot, people expect Spiderman to be Peter Parker. Period.

If they wanted to, they could do a ethnicity switch, as with Nick Fury (I know... I know... he wasn't really a major character in the past)... but you'd require another Samuel L. Jackson to do that. (i.e.: an actor that everyone likes and that everyone would love to see play that part)
 
Actually, no. People that I have been talking to want Miles Morales. Heck, even the fan favorite for the new Spider-man is Donald Glover.

FoolKiller
Could work, but then where do we add in the new origin story?
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You address it in the solo Spider-man film.
 
Sanji Himura
Actually, no. People that I have been talking to want Miles Morales. Heck, even the fan favorite for the new Spider-man is Donald Glover.
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And most of the comic fans I know would only accept Morales if it was Donald Glover, most likely because the idea was a big joke in his last stand-up special.


You address it in the solo Spider-man film.
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All we need, another origin story taking up nearly half a film.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out, but I think movie fans that aren't familiar with the comics would be kind of upset. It's an unexpected and unneeded change to the character that would smell of going PC after years of being accused not having a solo female character in the movies.
 
...do we really need an origin story though? Yes, I realize Spidey's a banner character, but Marvel's had plenty of success selling us on Fury, Romanoff, and Barton with hardly any backstory. If Parker can be shoehorned into Cap 3's main plot, we might not need the Spiderman solo flick to be an origin story. At least, I sure hope it won't be.

It needs to be Parker for the Civil War storyline, but count me in as another Glover fan if they go the Miles route.
 
SlipZtrEm
...do we really need an origin story though? Yes, I realize Spidey's a banner character, but Marvel's had plenty of success selling us on Fury, Romanoff, and Barton with hardly any backstory. If Parker can be shoehorned into Cap 3's main plot, we might not need the Spiderman solo flick to be an origin story. At least, I sure hope it won't be.
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Actually, now that I think about it, every SHIELD character has no backstory, and what little has been eluded to is purposely kept foggy in order to add mystery to the character. Even Coulson is a complete mystery, as to who he was before he showed up in the Iron Man films, and he has his own TV show. The extent of his backstory there starts with the films and occasionally bumping into people he knows from past SHIELD operations.

I think an example to look at is Hulk. The Phase 1 set of movies was mostly unrelated to any previous films, but there had been a non-Marvel Hulk film recently enough that people didn't need an origin story in the Edward Norton version. Then Mark Ruffalo Hulk shows up in Avengers and there is roughly a 30 second conversation on where Banner has been all this time. The only confusion they caused was some people couldn't understand how he can be completely out of control at one point and then fully in control at another point.

If Peter Parker just shows up everyone will know who, what, and why. Add in a quick expository conversation about the spider bite and move on.

If it is Morales people will be confused and want to know how he wound up with the spider powers.
 
FoolKiller
Actually, now that I think about it, every SHIELD character has no backstory, and what little has been eluded to is purposely kept foggy in order to add mystery to the character. Even Coulson is a complete mystery, as to who he was before he showed up in the Iron Man films, and he has his own TV show. The extent of his backstory there starts with the films and occasionally bumping into people he knows from past SHIELD operations.

I think an example to look at is Hulk. The Phase 1 set of movies was mostly unrelated to any previous films, but there had been a non-Marvel Hulk film recently enough that people didn't need an origin story in the Edward Norton version. Then Mark Ruffalo Hulk shows up in Avengers and there is roughly a 30 second conversation on where Banner has been all this time. The only confusion they caused was some people couldn't understand how he can be completely out of control at one point and then fully in control at another point.

If Peter Parker just shows up everyone will know who, what, and why. Add in a quick expository conversation about the spider bite and move on.

If it is Morales people will be confused and want to know how he wound up with the spider powers.
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Actually, we did get an origin exposition in the Edward Norton film. The only difference between the two Hulk films is that the Norton version is actually more in line with the comics, and quite possibly the TV show in the process.

To date, Marvel recognizes the Norton film as part of the MCU, even if they changed actors from Norton to Ruffalo. The process was not atypical to how Don Cheadle replaced Terrance Howard from Iron Man 1 to 2 and each subsequent films thereafter.
 
Sanji Himura
Actually, we did get an origin exposition in the Edward Norton film. The only difference between the two Hulk films is that the Norton version is actually more in line with the comics, and quite possibly the TV show in the process.
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Right, but they didn't devote any part of the actual storyto this, just a quick exposition, which is what I said they could do if they include Peter Parker. From previous incarnations everyone basically knows what Hulk is. That is the comparison I was trying to make.

To date, Marvel recognizes the Norton film as part of the MCU, even if they changed actors from Norton to Ruffalo. The process was not atypical to how Don Cheadle replaced Terrance Howard from Iron Man 1 to 2 and each subsequent films thereafter.
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I didn't say it wasn't part of Phase 1. I was saying it was, but didn't need to devote half a film to an origin story. All I said about Ruffalo was that they didn't include an explanation to how he went from the Norton Hulk to the more controlled version in Avengers. Actor names are merely to distinguish the two films. He briefly eluded to his failed attempts to control it, including suicide, but it was part of a more philosophical discussion with Stark about what role Hulk specifically plays in Banner's life. It was never fully explained.
 
FoolKiller
I didn't say it wasn't part of Phase 1. I was saying it was, but didn't need to devote half a film to an origin story. All I said about Ruffalo was that they didn't include an explanation to how he went from the Norton Hulk to the more controlled version in Avengers. Actor names are merely to distinguish the two films. He briefly eluded to his failed attempts to control it, including suicide, but it was part of a more philosophical discussion with Stark about what role Hulk specifically plays in Banner's life. It was never fully explained.
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It was piecemealed together. To give you a brief summary:

Banner was in Canada meditating on how to willingly bring out the Hulk at the end of The Incredible Hulk. While he was in transit between Canada and Cambodia to help with a disease, the SHIELD council got together and they wanted Blonsky for the Avengers Initiative. Fury, wanting no part of it, sends Agent Coulson to handle the situation. While Coulson was dining at a diner, he meets up with Agent Sitwell. The two agreed to send a patsy to convince General Ross to keep Blonsky in lock up. Call in Stark. Stark meets up with General Ross at Ross's favorite bar. At the end of it all, Stark buys the bar and schedules it for demolition "Next Tuesday." Blonsky remains behind bars, and Fury's gambit worked.

All the while, Banner didn't have any transformations into the Hulk while in Cambodia and Agent Romanoff tracked him down. The big secret in controlling those transformations was that Banner NEEDED to be angry all the time, and the Hulk was his release if things went too far. That is how Loki was able to manipulate Banner into transforming on the Helicarrier.

Watching the One-Shot "The Consultant" would really help put the clues together.
 
Sanji Himura
It was piecemealed together. To give you a brief summary:

Banner was in Canada meditating on how to willingly bring out the Hulk at the end of The Incredible Hulk. While he was in transit between Canada and Cambodia to help with a disease, the SHIELD council got together and they wanted Blonsky for the Avengers Initiative. Fury, wanting no part of it, sends Agent Coulson to handle the situation. While Coulson was dining at a diner, he meets up with Agent Sitwell. The two agreed to send a patsy to convince General Ross to keep Blonsky in lock up. Call in Stark. Stark meets up with General Ross at Ross's favorite bar. At the end of it all, Stark buys the bar and schedules it for demolition "Next Tuesday." Blonsky remains behind bars, and Fury's gambit worked.

All the while, Banner didn't have any transformations into the Hulk while in Cambodia and Agent Romanoff tracked him down. The big secret in controlling those transformations was that Banner NEEDED to be angry all the time, and the Hulk was his release if things went too far. That is how Loki was able to manipulate Banner into transforming on the Helicarrier.

Watching the One-Shot "The Consultant" would really help put the clues together.
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Um...OK. Was that in the movie and available information when people who don't watch through every special on the Blu-Ray (you know, 99% of the audience) were sitting in theaters watching Avengers?

I'm not talking about what was available for those willing to look for it. I'm talking about what was on screen in the main feature.
 
Finally, hello Vision.

I can't wait, this looks absolutely incredible already. As someone who hasn't seen a lot of Spader's work, his voice work is terrifying, and Ultron really brings a sense of dread that Loki and his army never could.
 
SlipZtrEm
Finally, hello Vision.

I can't wait, this looks absolutely incredible already. As someone who hasn't seen a lot of Spader's work, his voice work is terrifying, and Ultron really brings a sense of dread that Loki and his army never could.
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To see Spader at his creepiest watch The Secretary with Maggie Gyllanhal.
 
SlipZtrEm
As someone who hasn't seen a lot of Spader's work, his voice work is terrifying, and Ultron really brings a sense of dread that Loki and his army never could.
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Spader can be down right terrifying in nearly any of his work. He was the perfect fight of the choice over.
 
sems4arsenal
Liked the Wolverine trolling in the trailer :lol:
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That's not Wolverine, sorry to burst your bubble. That's Ulysses Claw in the trailer. His weapon can morph, and thus what appeared to be Wolverine's claws in the trailer.

On a brighter note, I can identify who holds 5 out of the 6 Infinity Gems (assuming a hunch pans out).

Relic - Gem Power - Who Holds It
Tessaract - Space - Asgard's Treasure Room (Odin)
Ather - Reality - The Collector
The Orb - Power - Nova Corps (Nova Prime)
Loki's Scepter - Mind - Hydra (Baron Von Strucker)
Vision's Gem - Soul - Vision
I suspect that the Time gem is in possession of Hydra.
 
Sanji Himura
That's not Wolverine, sorry to burst your bubble. That's Ulysses Claw in the trailer. His weapon can morph, and thus what appeared to be Wolverine's claws in the trailer.
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From what I have heard, it is actually Hawkeye as you can see his bow at the bottom of the shot. My first thought was Ulysses Klaw as well though when I saw it (well, the second time. Not expecting it first time around, I had to rewind and check it wasn't Wolverine!)

And in response to your own Spoiler....
I saw that as well here...
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Sanji Himura
That's not Wolverine, sorry to burst your bubble. That's Ulysses Claw in the trailer. His weapon can morph, and thus what appeared to be Wolverine's claws in the trailer.

On a brighter note, I can identify who holds 5 out of the 6 Infinity Gems (assuming a hunch pans out).

Relic - Gem Power - Who Holds It
Tessaract - Space - Asgard's Treasure Room (Odin)
Ather - Reality - The Collector
The Orb - Power - Nova Corps (Nova Prime)
Loki's Scepter - Mind - Hydra (Baron Von Strucker)
Vision's Gem - Soul - Vision
I suspect that the Time gem is in possession of Hydra.
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Pretty sure it's Hawkeye hence the trolling.
 

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