The General Anime Thread...

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AOS-
Are you doing a review on the content in the package of goods? We can do a different review specifically for Merchandise. It can range from lovely DVD/BR box specials, figurines (including gundams) and whatever else that has some value worth sharing.. just no TV shows, films or OVAs.
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A review on the show (Fruits Basket), and the box set. Of course, the content review and review on the actual product would be separate sections.

It's basically kinda like what Chris Beveridge does at The Fandom Post. Here's an example. Since that site is down, here's a Mania review (From the site he came from.).
http://www.mania.com/garei-zero-com...mbo-also-wlimited-edition_article_129660.html
 
^ Separate threads, just to be clear on that. It's strange to randomly have this thought on Packaging out of nowhere as the review thread being discussed is about the show (the stuff you see on a screen, not outside) and nothing else.

Lain
Also, I think a 0-10 scoring system is a bit too broad of a range... especially for some people in here who's scores tend to be skewed towards the higher end of the spectrum.
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AOS-
I already sense that there's going to be issues of disagreeing with reviews, as some of us tend to be more critical towards things than others....
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That you'll have to take with a grain of salt. Reviews are always opinions, don't forget. If you don't dig a certain person's tastes, well, either don't take their word on anything, or read it cautiously.

This is also why you group reviews of the same show together so that you can get an opinion from more than one person (if applicable).
 
Lain
Anime typically gets multiple releases (either a normal and special edition, or released in singles then later as a box set)
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It goes like this these days. Singles are practically gone. An example of what FUNimation does.

Show is 26 episodes: 13 episode part 1 (Limited edition also available.), 13 episode part 2 (Which can go in the artbox in the limited edition.), box set, S.A.V.E. edition or Anime Classics release.
Show is 13 episodes: box set (Limited edition also available.), re-release(?), S.A.V.E. edition or Anime Classics release.

In the case of a company like Media Blasters:
6 episode parts, box set

In the case of Sentai Filmworks:
Show is 13 episodes: box set
Show is 26 episodes: 13 episode parts, box set
 
TheCorvette
A review on the show (Fruits Basket), and the box set. Of course, the content review and review on the actual product would be separate sections.

It's basically kinda like what Chris Beveridge does at The Fandom Post. Here's an example. Since that site is down, here's a Mania review (From the site he came from.).
http://www.mania.com/garei-zero-com...mbo-also-wlimited-edition_article_129660.html
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I appreciate wanting to do a segment on packages, because there are some very nice ones out there worthy of praise, but...

Most shows are gonna be "it's a dvd case... with good art", "it's a blu-ray case... with good art". Then there's the matter of out-of-print stuff, or stuff that hasn't seen a US release. And also, there's bound to be a good amount of anime that we want to include which unfortunately none of us will own the physical release, let alone the limited edition version, for reviewing.

We could do a separate guide on nice anime releases, which'd definitely be your area of expertise, but... I don't think it really fits in the main guide, which the purpose of is just to help people find entertaining shows... not ones with marvellous packaging
 
But what about also helping people find a good product? As I posted earlier today, the Spice & Wolf Blu-ray looks only a tiny bit better than the DVD due to a crappy SD upscale. It's like 540P.
 
Like I said, in another thread....

One thread will be on TV series, movies, OVAs

Another thread will be on Goods, Media, Figurines, other Tangible Merchandise.


Agree on this so we can get going. My Haruhistic side is kicking in.
 
But what does it mean, a brief rundown on just the packaging, audio, video, and more, but nothing to say on the actual show?
 
AOS-
That you'll have to take with a grain of salt. Reviews are always opinions, don't forget. If you don't dig a certain person's tastes, well, either don't take their word on anything, or read it cautiously.

This is also why you group reviews of the same show together so that you can get an opinion from more than one person (if applicable).
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Still, I personally think that a simpler scoring scheme like 5 stars would be more useful to people trying to get an idea of a show's quality.

Scoring from 0.0 to 10.0, which is basically the same as scoring from 0-100, is way more specific than we need. All we really need is "okay it's 3 stars, so its good... this one's 4 stars so it's great... this one's 5 stars so it's amazing/must-see"

That's just my opinion though. If you guys would rather give very specific (and also very arbitrary to the readers) scores, then that'll work too.
 
Lain
Still, I personally think that a simpler scoring scheme like 5 stars would be more useful to people trying to get an idea of a show's quality.

Scoring from 0.0 to 10.0, which is basically the same as scoring from 0-100, is way more specific than we need. All we really need is "okay it's 3 stars, so its good... this one's 4 stars so it's great... this one's 5 stars so it's amazing/must-see"
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The 10 system can still go in there. On Anime-Planet, since they don't use a 10 system, I divide my MAL scores in half. A 7/10 is a 3.5/5 there.

How about this, people can use whatever system the feel like? It's specific for that reviewer. What you can have like a letter grade, a 10 system, a 5 system, or even a 100 system.
Loliblade ver2
Obviously, that goes in the other topic.
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Okay, I was just wondering as I'm used to seeing mainly reviews on the product and the show in the same review. I don't see many reviews on just the show, and I don't see any on just packaging really (It's practically unheard of.). I'm just too used to stuff like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06iSF7Z0nzQ
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/cowboy-bebop-box-set-dvd
http://www.mania.com/neon-genesis-evangelion-movie-222-can-not-advance_article_129597.html
 
TheCorvette
But what does it mean, a brief rundown on just the packaging, audio, video, and more, but nothing to say on the actual show?
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What Loli said.

One thread/book assumes people are looking to discover a show to watch, not necessarily to buy. They might just stream (or pirate :crazy:) it for all we know.

The other thread/book assumes people are looking to buy a specific show that they already know about.
 
TheCorvette
But what does it mean, a brief rundown on just the packaging, audio, video, and more, but nothing to say on the actual show?
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Nothing on Audio/Video unless there's something special about it (like whatever upscaled blah blah blah BECAUSE it's a limited edition), otherwise keep that and the show in the show reviews. You can link 'em to that post instead of creating a post there since this thread is focused about material.
Lain
Still, I personally think that a simpler scoring scheme like 5 stars would be more useful to people trying to get an idea of a show's quality.

Scoring from 0.0 to 10.0, which is basically the same as scoring from 0-100, is way more specific than we need. All we really need is "okay it's 3 stars, so its good... this one's 4 stars so it's great... this one's 5 stars so it's amazing/must-see"

That's just my opinion though. If you guys would rather give very specific (and also very arbitrary to the readers) scores, then that'll work too.
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I never really liked ratings out of 5 personally, because it forces you to adjust your tastes to it. A 3/5 is pretty iffy to me; nothing "good" or close to it. Say you hated a story, but you found the animation to be spectacular... 2/5 doesn't feel right, so you give it a 3/5.... now comes along a show with decent everything, but lame-oh characters... It's not fantastic so it's definitely not a 5, everything was MEH, so would give it a 4, but now you got to count in the demerit for having dumb characters. Now it's a 3, on the same level as a crappy show with beautiful art... Get where I'm going with this? Rating something out of 10 is honestly not difficult to read or understand, and with it gives you a much more accurate impression of what you thought of the show... You can't give something a 5/10 with 2 or 3 stars....


And absolutely no to Letter grades. That's an entirely step back from using a percentage... and if you have a percentage, there's no need for an alphabet.
 
AOS-
Nothing on Audio/Video unless there's something special about it (like whatever upscaled blah blah blah BECAUSE it's a limited edition), otherwise keep that and the show in the show reviews. You can link 'em to that post instead of creating a post there since this thread is focused about material.

I never really liked ratings out of 5 personally, because it forces you to adjust your tastes to it. A 3/5 is pretty iffy to me; nothing "good" or close to it. Say you hated a story, but you found the animation to be spectacular... 2/5 doesn't feel right, so you give it a 3/5.... now comes along a show with decent everything, but lame-oh characters... It's not fantastic so it's definitely not a 5, everything was MEH, so would give it a 4, but now you got to count in the demerit for having dumb characters. Now it's a 3, on the same level as a crappy show with beautiful art... Get where I'm going with this? Rating something out of 10 is honestly not difficult to read or understand, and with it gives you a much more accurate impression of what you thought of the show... You can't give something a 5/10 with 2 or 3 stars....
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True, but we're talking out of 10.0 here... not just out of 10. But 5 stars, if you allow half stars, is essentially 10 out of 10. 👍

And I think rating things by stars is easier to digest/relate to than just a number value.
 
Lain
Still, I personally think that a simpler scoring scheme like 5 stars would be more useful to people trying to get an idea of a show's quality.

Scoring from 0.0 to 10.0, which is basically the same as scoring from 0-100, is way more specific than we need. All we really need is "okay it's 3 stars, so its good... this one's 4 stars so it's great... this one's 5 stars so it's amazing/must-see"

That's just my opinion though. If you guys would rather give very specific (and also very arbitrary to the readers) scores, then that'll work too.
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I was thinking 0 to 10 in half points. Or at least whole numbers. Only 1 through 5 isn't specific enough IMO.


TheCorvette
How about this, people can use whatever system the feel like? It's specific for that reviewer. What you can have like a letter grade, a 10 system, a 5 system, or even a 100 system.
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That's dumb. We need a uniform system for this PDF to be effective. The reader needs all the information in an informative matter, but it needs to be simple. You start confusing readers, you start losing readers.


Lain
True, but we're talking out of 10.0 here... not just out of 10. But 5 stars, if you allow half stars, is essentially 10 out of 10. 👍

And I think rating things by stars is easier to digest/relate to than just a number value.
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Honestly, even out of 5 stars with half stars and 1 through 10 in whole numbers are the same, I prefer a 1 - 10 scale. It just looks more precise and is still easy to follow. IMO.


In other news, 🤬! Ano Natsu de Matteru isn't what I thought it was going to be at all! I am very upset now. I'm going to bed...
 
Lain
True, but we're talking out of 10.0 here... not just out of 10. But 5 stars, if you allow half stars, is essentially 10 out of 10. 👍

And I think rating things by stars is easier to digest/relate to than just a number value.
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Fine, we'll leave out the decimal, so 0-10

While stars may be easier to digest, but where the hell are you getting the stars from? you're not going to type out asterisks because that looks dinky, but at the same time, copy and pasting the img url of an image of a star is messy when composing your post.
 
This will feel weird, but might as well go and review just the packaging, sound, video (I feel like including these as it can be a big deal to people (People raged at the poor encoding on the first Geneon Samurai Champloo box set for example.), and some things can be different from legal streams, illegal streams, torrents, etc.), and extras on a few of my releases. I'll post them and see how it turns out, and what you guys think.
 
AOS-
Fine, we'll leave out the decimal, so 0-10

While stars may be easier to digest, but where the hell are you getting the stars from? you're not going to type out asterisks because that looks dinky, but at the same time, copy and pasting the img url of an image of a star is messy when composing your post.
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How about this: In the thread, when people contribute their reviews, they give their scores in 0-10 number format.

Then when it gets put into the PDF, it's converted into star format?
 
TheCorvette
This will feel weird, but might as well go and review just the packaging, sound, video (I feel like including these as it can be a big deal to people (People raged at the poor encoding on the first Geneon Samurai Champloo box set for example.), and some things can be different from legal streams, illegal streams, torrents, etc.), and extras on a few of my releases. I'll post them and see how it turns out, and what you guys think.
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Sounds good. Looking forward to it. :) 👍

Created the thread for anime reviews: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/group.php?do=discuss&discussionid=2413

TheCorvette, since it seems more like your department, I think you should be the one to create the "Anime Guide Project - Product Reviews" thread. 👍
 
Honestly, I don't much care for the out of 10 system. Partially because game review sites have made it seem anything under 7 is absolute junk, and many people here are going to be at least a little in that mindset seeing how this is a video game forum. You could also consider letter grades, A, A-, etc. if you want a bit more details. And then people will associate middle ground with a C quite clearly, while giving an easy way to adjust for something that is just a bit above average for some reason with C+. Or just use Stars. But numbers these days have been tainted by the shift in scoring. And TheCorvette will just give everything 8 or higher anyhow :P

Also, I agree the product stuff should be in its own thread, because some of us don't care for the most part. And many people here are not going to be looking at fancy box sets if they are also using GTP for a source of anime reviews.

In short, I kind of agree with Lain. Who is really Walter.
 
Azuremen
In short, I kind of agree with Lain. Who is really Walter. Who is really FC3 Eastman. Who is really James. Who is really a human. Who is really a collection of atoms. Who is really a collection of tiny string cheese particles, yummeh!
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lolwut? You actually agree with me? :P

Anyway, I think we already found a pretty good solution... keep TC occupied with the separate product reviews, and also convert the numbered scores to stars for the PDF. :lol:
 
Lain
lolwut?

You actually agree with me? :P
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I know right? It is just how I roll, troll people and then sometimes agree with them. But don't count on it.

I think the real shocker will be if I ever agree with TheCorvette on much of anything.

Now excuse me, I have to go destroy the anime industry.
 
Azuremen
And TheCorvette will just give everything 8 or higher anyhow :P
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Not sure where you're getting the 8 thing. I've given two 7/10's lately, Nabari no Ou, and Mashiroiro Symphony. Shakugan no Shana III which I'm currently watching is a 6/10. This third season is really not all that good. It's decent at best.

What I've counted for scores on anime and manga (There may be slight minor errors.).

Scores (Anime):
10: 13 | TV: 9 | OVA: 2 | Movie: 2 | Special: 0
9: 44 | TV: 34 | OVA: 1 | Movie: 8 | Special: 1
8: 67 | TV: 51 | OVA: 3 | Movie: 10 | Special: 3
7: 41 | TV: 26 | OVA: 2 | Movie: 10 | Special: 3
6: 5 | TV: 5 | OVA: 0 | Movie: 0 | Special: 0
5: 1 | TV: 1 | OVA: 0 | Movie: 0 | Special: 0
4: 0 | TV: 0 | OVA: 0 | Movie: 0 | Special: 0
3: 0 | TV: 0 | OVA: 0 | Movie: 0 | Special: 0
2: 0 | TV: 0 | OVA: 0 | Movie: 0 | Special: 0
1: 0 | TV: 0 | OVA: 0 | Movie: 0 | Special: 0
No Score: 39 | TV: 38 | OVA: 1 | Movie: 0 | Special: 0

Scores (Manga):
10: 1
9: 6
8: 12
7: 11
6: 4
5: 0
4: 0
3: 0
2: 0
1: 0
No Score: 35
Azuremen
I know right? It is just how I roll, troll people and then sometimes agree with them. But don't count on it.

I think the real shocker will be if I ever agree with TheCorvette on much of anything.

Now excuse me, I have to go destroy the anime industry.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-01-10/media-blasters-lays-off-60-percent-of-its-staff
 

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