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Online. It's individuals that vector some stuff out and have the stickers printed and then sell them online, they're usually limited and done only in single runs. The exception is the large peeking Hachikuji, only that guy restocks regularly. Everyone else is sold out.
It's a side story that takes place during the One Year War. I highly recommend it, it's dark and has jazz music from the same guy that did Cowboy Bebop.
In other news, my Code Geass BDs have arrived along with a High Grade Kshatriya
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To be honest I've spoiled myself on bits of the story because I've browsed the characters on TVTropes and just undone/highlighted the spoilers there. Also I've seen clips of it from time to time on 30 secs of Love Live's Twitter.
I don't really want to hate the characters, and to be honest I probably don't. But the problem Aquors have is the same I was banging on about before Sunshine even started. If they formed the first Love Live, they'd probably be perfectly alright. But they're trying to be exactly the same as what mu's were and, crucially, they aren't mu's. So they just seem like nine girls doing funny things and occasionally singing songs. mu's were just a little bit more than that. So even now, when I look at them both, they all have much more charm than anyone from Aquors does.
Also while I never take much offence to fanservice I think that, for something like Love Live, they've gone too far with it with Aquors. Although I definitely don't mind girls like Hanamaru and You being STACKED, I just think they're going the wrong way with it sometimes.
1. I find it ironic how Aquors are genuinely awful at doing what they're trying to do in-universe.
2. I really don't like how up-front the one bit of yuri I saw was. I mean, before this it was never just flat out said that there was any actual love going on, even if it was hinted at plenty. But that meant you could be flexible with ships and stuff, which I mostly was and which everyone in the Love Live fandom still is, to impossibly stupid points.
2. I really don't like how up-front the one bit of yuri I saw was. I mean, before this it was never just flat out said that there was any actual love going on, even if it was hinted at plenty. But that meant you could be flexible with ships and stuff, which I mostly was and which everyone in the Love Live fandom still is, to impossibly stupid points.
I don't really want to hate the characters, and to be honest I probably don't. But the problem Aquors have is the same I was banging on about before Sunshine even started. If they formed the first Love Live, they'd probably be perfectly alright. But they're trying to be exactly the same as what mu's were and, crucially, they aren't mu's. So they just seem like nine girls doing funny things and occasionally singing songs. mu's were just a little bit more than that. So even now, when I look at them both, they all have much more charm than anyone from Aquors does.
Also while I never take much offence to fanservice I think that, for something like Love Live, they've gone too far with it with Aquors. Although I definitely don't mind girls like Hanamaru and You being STACKED, I just think they're going the wrong way with it sometimes.
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1. I liked that. I think it went a long way to structuring the story in the sense that "let's just copy µ's" is out of the question - there's a big gap between School Idol Project and Sunshine, and after the realisation Love Live (as an event) was totally different, it added to it well.
2. I suppose you're talking about Riko x Chika, yes? Eeeh, that's something I agree with, though I find shipping stupid in the first place. I liked what it contributed to the story in terms of You's feelings.
2. I suppose you're talking about Riko x Chika, yes? Eeeh, that's something I agree with, though I find shipping stupid in the first place. I liked what it contributed to the story in terms of You's feelings.
That was my biggest gripe with it personally, and while watching it I was getting disappointed and frustrated. It changes. You just have to believe me.
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Well I was gonna write more summing up just what I think is wrong with Sunshine but I just had to leave the house and instead of editing it I'll just say it here instead.
I think they've changed the wrong stuff and kept the wrong stuff the same as well. I still think that it should have been something other than another nine girls. Certainly not more, nine is already as far as you can reasonably go I think. But any less would have been an interesting spin which would have made it all a lot fresher. However, it should also still have been a lot more like Love Live at heart. And any mentions of mu's should have been limited to one-sentence, one-time references. I would rather they'd have been the first of their own group, not blatantly trying to be the second mu's.
And that's why I'm not interested in Aquors. It's why I'll never have any proper emotion towards them. Not even the sort I reserve for Honoka.
...I suppose not viewing my Tumblr dashboard in forever has helped as well. That's drowned in Sunshine. (But if I start doing stuff there again...) (Also boorus tag them separately to mu's)
I think they've changed the wrong stuff and kept the wrong stuff the same as well. I still think that it should have been something other than another nine girls. Certainly not more, nine is already as far as you can reasonably go I think. But any less would have been an interesting spin which would have made it all a lot fresher. However, it should also still have been a lot more like Love Live at heart. And any mentions of mu's should have been limited to one-sentence, one-time references. I would rather they'd have been the first of their own group, not blatantly trying to be the second mu's.
And that's why I'm not interested in Aquors. It's why I'll never have any proper emotion towards them. Not even the sort I reserve for Honoka.
...I suppose not viewing my Tumblr dashboard in forever has helped as well. That's drowned in Sunshine. (But if I start doing stuff there again...) (Also boorus tag them separately to mu's)
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I think the mindset of becoming like them actually worked in favour, though it was a massive gamble. It sort of speaks to people with ambition that the way to make it in life is to make it through being yourself, not being like someone else. The cold reality check that gave the members made it more interesting than having the gift as to know what Love Live was about from the get go made it more interesting to me. Though it dragged on slightly too long.
I'll agree with that, but I have to say they nailed the character design. A perfect mix of different character types. I cannot stand Hanayo or Rin, but with Sunshine it's more a competition on who really is the best because they're all so good. There's not one character I have a slight bit of distaste towards.
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You see, I'm actually preferential to having characters to like and dislike, which is what happened with mu's. I really do not like Honoka, and I also don't like Kotori as a result, but I still have a grudging respect for Honoka, she's not completely awful and she still gave the anime its best moment. And as for the characters I like, I adore them. Maki, Umi, Hanayo and Nozomi are all brilliant in their own way. Maki in particular is unbelievably attractive, and Umi is not far behind. As for Eli, she's shaken me up so much I've even started to get attracted to more blondes in real life. My heart still skips a beat at the sight of her beauty. It's no coincidence the phone I'm writing this on has a case with Eli on it.
But with Aquors, I just don't find myself liking any of them. Chika is a better person than Honoka, but while Chika also has a lot of silly flaws she just doesn't have the magic of Honoka. Likewise You is superb compared to her equivalent, Kotori, perhaps my favourite from Aquors if I had to pick. But even she just doesn't feel special.
I'm only going off limited experience with all the characters but I can tell the rest have flaws that ultimately just make them pretty bad. I could detail each individual one but I don't have the time right now. I'll save them for later or somewhere else. I'd point to what I said about the first episode but my views have changed since then. Not much, mind.
But with Aquors, I just don't find myself liking any of them. Chika is a better person than Honoka, but while Chika also has a lot of silly flaws she just doesn't have the magic of Honoka. Likewise You is superb compared to her equivalent, Kotori, perhaps my favourite from Aquors if I had to pick. But even she just doesn't feel special.
I'm only going off limited experience with all the characters but I can tell the rest have flaws that ultimately just make them pretty bad. I could detail each individual one but I don't have the time right now. I'll save them for later or somewhere else. I'd point to what I said about the first episode but my views have changed since then. Not much, mind.
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I think actually understanding the characters doesn't come from the impressions you see on the net, but how they're presented to you in the show. I found Chika way more likable (and seems to be the general consensus with other people I've talked to). Perhaps the characters are "too" perfect but for me it's turned from me liking certain characters within the group to Aqours as a whole.
That, and judging by some of the scenes, Sunrise has acknowledged it's demographic
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Personally I've never held much respect for the opinion that every character in anything could be perfect. I hear it a lot from Touhou fans but I am not one of those. There are a select few characters from it I dislike, but they are more than made up for by the brilliance of the many characters I do like. Love Live has that going for it. Two bad characters do not ruin the effect of the other magnificent seven. But Aquors doesn't have anywhere near enough good to fight off their several little bits of bad. Because of everything I've said just now.
But maybe you are right about the demographic bit, come to think of it. Boys who love (anime) girls in one hemisphere. Lesbians in the other. That's the Love Live fandom, if you're generalising it.
But maybe you are right about the demographic bit, come to think of it. Boys who love (anime) girls in one hemisphere. Lesbians in the other. That's the Love Live fandom, if you're generalising it.
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I wouldn't say they're dead perfect, but I think it's a difference from characters such as Hanayo or Rin who are not your typical girls that people would fluster over. Another way to look at this (bare with me here) is that every character has bust. You're probably well aware of Nico's prominent displeasure of having a lack of, so it's interesting that they didn't try something as clear as that. Maybe it's because they felt the "I'm not fit to be an idol" mindset was covered with Hanamaru, I don't know. Though I'd say how that played out was a mixture of Umi and Hanayo. Maybe Rin.
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From what I can see Hanamaru is a mix of Maki and Hanayo. Mostly I only think her and Kayo-chin are similar because of their bodies if I'm honest, although I mostly think Maki is similar because they are both the most popular. But then I recall that Maru was perceived to be pretty at first sight with Chika so that's probably got something to do with it too.
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Now you see, Mari is just awful. Her ripping off a trait as big as the one she nicked from Nozomi just reeks of a lack of imagination. Casually tossing in two nationalities with her, like the one Eli had, is also pretty bad.
And then Dia is blatantly the same as Eli at the start and Kanan has more than a feeling of Nozomi about her. The third years are just plain bad.
And then Dia is blatantly the same as Eli at the start and Kanan has more than a feeling of Nozomi about her. The third years are just plain bad.
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The third years would probably be my favourite group, if anything. Mari is fun to listen to (and I think my favourite singing voice), Kanan is stunning (imo) and a nice personality which kind of makes the Nozomi reference understandable, but then again it's kind of different. Dia has my favourite normal voice, but with my favourite being Umi, it kind of makes sense.
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