The General Anime Thread...

[Lain]

You guys are so.......it's like.... I don't even get why you guys are so picky for sometimes...

I mean, "if it's got no action, it's boring"? That's a little close-minded, don't you think?

Expand your tastes and give things a chance.. 👍

Only one person expressed such an opinion, so why this post is aimed at multiple people is beyond me.

I'm willing to give just about anything (except Bleach and Naruto) a chance. Just because I can't stand watching one slice-of-life series right after another doesn't mean I won't watch one every now and again. And there's plenty of action-less (or close to it) anime that I like, and there's plenty that's on my list of things to watch ASAP too.

 

[AOS-]

Like CLANNAD.....?

 

[Lain]

Like CLANNAD.....?

I'm giving Clannad a chance, and will continue to do so, but so far I remain unimpressed. Lukewarm comedy with forgettable semi-annoying characters.

But that reminds me. I finished Tide-Line Blue. The climax was quite tense, but the ending was a little meh. So now that it's out of the way, I can resume Clannad and TTGL. 👍

 

[AOS-]

Finished ep 13 EVA... that was like an action-based filler...felt like one at least.

 

[Cano]

Lukewarm comedy with forgettable semi-annoying characters.

You succeed in resuming basically every slice-of-life anime that has come out lately. It's unnerving.


I like my anime realistic when it has to be, but come ON. These things are worsd than the WORST mexican soap-operas (Moolieg could help here). They are SO corny. It's unbearable.

I have seen ONE anime that I consider a slice-of-life show that I have liked, altough it is told in a total fantasy context, and that is PlanetES. That show is incredibly good and so underrated. And I know all you have seen it will agree with me. It can be considered a slice-of-life show because it centers around the characters daily shenanigans, even if their context is an absolute fantasy. And they are portrayed very well, and their development is something I have yet to see repeated again.

So, yeah, I like that "real" stuff as Yay said, and I agree wholeheartedly with Goddin, it's all about the storytelling, now how many touching moments you can have with a teenage couple. Yet that is the formula that lately haas been crosshatched with "slice-of-life".

Now, I won't say that "slice" is my favourite genre, as from my previous answers you can tell. If I'm gonna watch something animated, mind you, I want something completely out of the ordinary. I want something that if I'd see it done up with actors and corny special effects that want to look real but look like Toy Story, I'll go "lol", because in animation everything is possible. I won't watch a stupid teenage couple breaking and returning indefinitely, as I can watch that in my family, for god's sake. I'll pass.

Get me a "spice of life" show that isn't about stupid teenages, and maybe. Just like PlanetES.

 

[Lain]

You succeed in describing basically every slice-of-life anime that has come out lately. It's unnerving.


I like my anime realistic when it has to be, but come ON. These things are worsd than the WORST mexican soap-operas (Moolieg could help here). They are SO corny. It's unbearable.

I have seen ONE anime that I consider a slice-of-life show that I have liked, altough it is told in a total fantasy context, and that is PlanetES. That show is incredibly good and so underrated. And I know all you have seen it will agree with me. It can be considered a slice-of-life show because it centers around the characters daily shenanigans, even if their context is an absolute fantasy. And they are portrayed very well, and their development is something I have yet to see repeated again.

So, yeah, I like that "real" stuff as Yay said, and I agree wholeheartedly with Goddin, it's all about the storytelling, now how many touching moments you can have with a teenage couple. Yet that is the formula that lately haas been crosshatched with "slice-of-life".

Now, I won't say that "slice" is my favourite genre, as from my previous answers you can tell. If I'm gonna watch something animated, mind you, I want something completely out of the ordinary. I want something that if I'd see it done up with actors and corny special effects that want to look real but look like Toy Story, I'll go "lol", because in animation everything is possible. I won't watch a stupid teenage couple breaking and returning indefinitely, as I can watch that in my family, for god's sake. I'll pass.

Get me a "spice of life" show that isn't about stupid teenages, and maybe. Just like PlanetES.

Agreed. Planetes is a great show. 👍

It's slice-of-life to a degree, but it's also got some interesting and very realistic hard sci-fi elements to it that aren't just in there as a gimmick to make it different from other slice-of-life shows.

Also... fixed?

 

[AOS-]

That's what I like about anime; it can be anything... so just go all out!

However, why would one want to fight their feelings? If I like a show with overly-dramatic touchy moments, should I shun it? Should I shun what I undeniably like? Of course not! All I'm saying is, if you like it for what it is, then continue to do so, no need to categorize what you like and dislike and pass judgment...

All of you were like Oh, Magical Girls??? Ehhh.....I'm not into magical girls, but this one was good.... not into a genre, gave it a chance and made an exception.

 

[jeffgoddin]

I watched a lot of Brazilian telenovelas when I was living in Ecuador, and as far as I can tell, they're mostly about hot chicas with great tetas. But they're also mostly pretty funny and with some decent drama and very slice of life (rich people's lives, anyways.) So yeah, they're about the same as anime slice of life, mostly, only with more mature characters than anime usually portrays. But to call them soap operas is somewhat misleading for Americans. Soaps are ongoing tedious bitch-fests with no conclusion to the story, while telenovelas are short series, usually no more than a year, and more often half a year or less, with a predetermined and well defined story arc.

But back to the anime thread. The freedom that animation allows lends itself to science fiction and fantasy settings. Normal slice-of-life, as you've pointed out, can be perfectly well done IRL. I'm a HUGE fan of both fantasy and sci-fi, because they allow the story to say something about the real world that live action, without huge special effects budgets, has a hard time doing. The best sci-fi sets up an artificial scenario to highlight some specific characteristic of the human experience, separate from all the confusion and complications that real-life contemporary settings would require the storyteller to believably incorporate. In other words, real life settings are a big constraint for storytellers. And animation makes it easier to visually depict sci-fi and fantasy settings.

As an aside, my favorite movie is Conan the Barbarian, with Dune and Bladerunner not too far behind, all three great storytelling efforts. Books would be Lord of the Rings and everything Ursula K. LeGuin has written, very fantasy, with Isaac Asimov and Frederick Pohl and other sci-fi greats in there, too. Literal storytelling is too restricted in my opinion, and the best stories are told with some degree of abstraction and separation from everyday (slice-of-life) experience. I still love Seinfeld and Lucky Star and Dukes of Hazzard, but I know those are all easy enjoyable guilty pleasures, and sometimes I need to go for Ghost in the Shell, Battlestar Galactica, Doctor Who, and Ergo Proxy type shows to keep myself really stimulated and not just entertained.

And yes, Planetes is a great balance, must see for everybody here.

 

[Lain]

That's what I like about anime; it can be anything... so just go all out!

However, why would one want to fight their feelings? If I like a show with overly-dramatic touchy moments, should I shun it? Should I shun what I undeniably like? Of course not! All I'm saying is, if you like it for what it is, then continue to do so, no need to categorize what you like and dislike and pass judgment...

All of you were like Oh, Magical Girls??? Ehhh.....I'm not into magical girls, but this one was good.... not into a genre, gave it a chance and made an exception.

Not sure what exactly you're getting at. Are you saying that if we like something of a particular genre that we should like everything of that particular genre?

Sorry but just like fanart, most of any particular genre or type of thing is crap. Most mecha shows are crap. Most magical-girl anime is crap. Most sci-fi is crap. Most slice-of-life shows are crap. Most anime period is crap. Most movies, music, games, books, etc. are crap.

 

[jeffgoddin]

Sorry but just like fanart, most of any particular genre or type of thing is crap. Most mecha shows are crap. Most magical-girl anime is crap. Most sci-fi is crap. Most slice-of-life shows are crap. Most anime period is crap. Most movies, music, games, books, etc. are crap.

What a scatological post! But yeah, most people are dip****s, so most media sucks. Also, abbreviate fanart and what do you get? fanart => faart => fart.

 

[AOS-]

Not sure what exactly you're getting at. Are you saying that if we like something of a particular genre that we should like everything of that particular genre?

No. I'm saying- oh forget it... I can't even explain it without confusing you any further, so this isn't getting anywhere..

fanart => faart => fart.

Explain where N went. And it would be fa^2rt.. you made it look so mathematical

 

[Lain]

No. I'm saying- oh forget it... I can't even explain it without confusing you any further, so this isn't getting anywhere..

I think I get it. You're saying that we're close-minded to a particular genre. And that when we try something of that particular genre and we end up liking it, we just say that it's an exception but the genre still sucks.

But the thing is, in my case, I'm not saying any particular genre sucks. There's good/great slice-of-life and there's bad/mediocre slice-of-life, just like there's good and bad in any genre in existence.

I'm not about to sit down and watch every ****** mecha series ever created, and I would hope nobody here would sit down and watch every ****** slice-of-life series that ever gets pumped out.

What a scatological post! But yeah, most people are dip****s, so most media sucks. Also, abbreviate fanart and what do you get? fanart => faart => fart.

 

[Cano]

That's what I like about anime; it can be anything... so just go all out!

However, why would one want to fight their feelings? If I like a show with overly-dramatic touchy moments, should I shun it? Should I shun what I undeniably like? Of course not! All I'm saying is, if you like it for what it is, then continue to do so, no need to categorize what you like and dislike and pass judgment...

All of you were like Oh, Magical Girls??? Ehhh.....I'm not into magical girls, but this one was good.... not into a genre, gave it a chance and made an exception.

An exception to my rule of thumb is every show I like. My rule of thumb is that anime, simply, sucks, just as Walter said up there. At least 95 percent of it. The other small percentage can sometimes be so good, it has me here, talking about it.

 

[Lain]

Added anime up to Q to my list. Sadly, no Qs actually made it onto the list.
But to be fair, there was only one candidate for the Qs...

Occult Academy
Ocean Waves
Only Yesterday
Oseam
Pale Cocoon
Paranoia Agent
Ponyo
Princess Nine

The list is getting pretty damn long. 69 (heh) items so far.

 

[Sly Guy]

Wow, what happened in here while I was at work?

I'm actually rather laid back when it comes to stuff I watch. In fact, most of the stuff I watch is Slice-of-Life and Comedy. I watch SoL/Comedy stuff like Mitsudomoe and Nichijou (both of which are underrated IMO). But if it's SoL/Comedy stuff like K-On, Minami-ke, or Hidamari Sketch, I have a hard time watching it.

I guess I just prefer slapstick comedy.

yaywalter, did you watch Puella Magi Madoka Magica already?

 

[nk4e]

Wow, what happened in here while I was at work?

Time loop 66 ran its protocol.

 

[Lain]

yaywalter, did you watch Puella Magi Madoka Magica already?

Yup.

 

[Sly Guy]

Just checking

In other news, Konoe Subaru is HHHHNNNNNNGGGG

 

[AOS-]

...anime sucks, at least 95 percent of it. The other small percentage can sometimes be so good.

Ok ok I think I remember what I was trying to get at...


we all watch anime because we like it; we want to enjoy it, right? Then shouldn't we have a more positive train of thought instead? Like find something good about a show and try your best to like it, instead of shooting it down at the very first thing you don't like... Would it not be better to expand on tastes and like 20% of anime rather than just 5% (using that number you said as an example)?

I get the impression a lot of you guys are like "EVA or nothing", though I just made it extreme to emphasize my point. And because of this, there's only a limited number of shows you like, and a bajillion other shows you'll never like. It's like you guys closed yourselves off. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. This again, is my perception based on your stated opinions in the past.

 

[Cano]

I’ve been watching anime for almost 15 years. I’ve gained quite a good feeling of what I’m gonna like and what not, and I can safely say that MOST anime that has come out in the last full decade is trash. Notable exceptions happily abound, of course, but my “positive train of thought” has run it’s course and crashed badly.

After starting right in the smack of what most people call the “golden age” of anime, the last decade has been absurdly bad and has driven me away of it all in a big way. When I find something new that I really like I do celebrate and more or less get into it, like Black Lagoon right now, but it’s still hard to find something that will appeal to me. It wasn’t like that ten years ago.

And yes, with time my tastes have matured. That is why I say that my train ran it’s course. There was a time when I watched a lot of stuff that seems unbearable now, and all of that helped forge my current thinking that anime blows. Been there, done that. And it’s sad, because I like this stuff. A lot. But just because of that, I won’t watch every piece of trash that crosses my way.

And about the “EVA or nothing” thing, fail: I watched EVA just last year. Yep, I’m 15 year-anime-old, but in that time, for one reason or another, I never watched EVA. So it had absolutely nothing to do with me thinking the way I think now.

 

[AOS-]

Everything will and must change with the times, and that includes the direction anime has headed.

I see where you're coming from given that you grew up with anime back then... it's sort of like how we will always like something of the current era that the older generations never will, granted there are certain people who will live with both worlds...

Therefore, watch Steins;Gate :tup:

 

[Hatcha]

Ok ok I think I remember what I was trying to get at...


we all watch anime because we like it; we want to enjoy it, right? Then shouldn't we have a more positive train of thought instead? Like find something good about a show and try your best to like it, instead of shooting it down at the very first thing you don't like... Would it not be better to expand on tastes and like 20% of anime rather than just 5% (using that number you said as an example)?

That's being somewhat bias. Personally I can't just overlook flaws in shows, however I can miss certain flaws completely at times. I can understand where you're coming from when you say "shooting it down down at the very first thing you don't like" though, that would just be daft. However, again, I couldn't just overlook the area of the show in which I didn't like, it would effect the shows overall impact depending on how much I disliked the maid lead for example. At the bold line, it may be better, but is it really possible? I've tried many times to like shows which I haven't been enjoying, and it's never suddenly gotten any more enjoyable when I tried to think positively. If you're finding yourself not liking a show chances are the negetives way out the positives, and if thats the case it's pointless trying to like it, but of course, we all have our own ideas of what positves and negatives are, a positive for you may be a negetive from someone else.

essay end/

 

[Lain]

Ok ok I think I remember what I was trying to get at...


we all watch anime because we like it; we want to enjoy it, right? Then shouldn't we have a more positive train of thought instead? Like find something good about a show and try your best to like it, instead of shooting it down at the very first thing you don't like... Would it not be better to expand on tastes and like 20% of anime rather than just 5% (using that number you said as an example)?

I get the impression a lot of you guys are like "EVA or nothing", though I just made it extreme to emphasize my point. And because of this, there's only a limited number of shows you like, and a bajillion other shows you'll never like. It's like you guys closed yourselves off. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. This again, is my perception based on your stated opinions in the past.

I give everything a fair shot, and I'm quite willing to overlook a few minor flaws too. There's things about Neon Genesis Evangelion, Code Geass, Death Note, etc. that I don't like. But those shows also compelled me to overlook the flaws.

If a show has more flaws than redeeming qualities, I'm probably not going to see it through to the end. So in that way, yes, I am limited to the number of shows I'll like. I'm limited to the ones worth being liked.

And figures like 5-10% might sound small, but there's a lot of anime out there. Even if I'm limited to the top 10%, that's still more than enough to keep me occupied.

 

[AOS-]

Ahhaaahha

Yo Hatcha...

Spoiler

I heard you like fail, so we put some fail in your fail, so you can facepalm while you facepalm...

I bursted out laughing.

 

[Hatcha]

Explain?

My post makes perfect sense in reply to your post.

 

[AOS-]

It's nothing related to previous replies...

How far did you get in Steins;gate?

I'm doing back-to-back Steins;Gate with Maximilian's ONLINE WARRIOR MvC3

 

[Hatcha]

Currently up to date with the series, awaiting episode 16. It's really easy for me to keep up with shows as I only watch two or three a season, due to my terrible memory thats all I can manage. I'm fairly lucky though, as it's usually only two or three that actually interest me, and this season it's only one

Edit;

Really good and short Code Geass AMV. Huge spoilers, be warned.

 

[AOS-]

Wait, so you didn't understand what I was saying with that spoiler text?

 

[Hatcha]

No idea, guessing it's from steins;gate now though, probably something Daru would say.

 

[dice1998]

Just finished Bakemonogatari and i'm wondering why i never watched this before




Oh and this AOS- brigade, can i join?