The general WHAT IN THE WORLD is going on in Canada?

[Joel]

It's absolutely that we want to fight for Israel. It's all Israel/US ass kissing. Harper's been very vocal in his support for Israel. If the US goes to war with Iran, odds are we'll be there too. I just hope I'm proven wrong.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

It's absolutely that we want to fight for Israel. It's all Israel/US ass kissing. Harper's been very vocal in his support for Israel. If the US goes to war with Iran, odds are we'll be there too. I just hope I'm proven wrong.

I just hope the war doesn't happen. Iran doesn't have to be petty towards Israel. Let the Jews be, they've had it hard enough.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I don't trust a party that goes into power with a large surplus and manage to turn it into the largest ever deficit, all while making everything top secret and seemingly not knowing what the word "transparency" means. I don't trust a party that wants to spy on what we do on the internet. I don't trust a party that claims to be "fiscally conservative," but wants to waste money on the military and be the US's bitch, ready to fight for Israel at a moments notice.

As pointed out, there are some smart people in that party. But overall, no thank you. At least not with Harpo as leader.

How many other Western governments went deep into deficit after the meltdown? All of them. Who is in the best relative shape of all of them? We are. If one agrees with the premise that a government, any government, has a major impact on that type of thing happening, then Harper deserves praise for steady, measured leadership, not blame for a worldwide financial collapse he had no control over.

Because someone agrees with a cause of someone else, doesn't make us anyone's b:censored: I think most Canadian's would side with Israel in any fight and our government reflects that. We didn't agree with the US on Iraq and in hindsight we look absolutely brilliant, we agreed on Afghanastan for good reason and gave it our best and lost many good young men fighting for a just cause. We make our own choices in our own interest and always have.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Hey JP!


Thing is, I think Germany might be the first Western government to return to normal service after the meltdown; no debt, no default, no collapse. Asides from Germany, yes, we're doing quite well.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

Harper is a huge brown noser to Israel, and its horribly obvious. I'm pretty sure that all Canadians are against it and that they want Canada to go back to being neutral.

 

[Joel]

Harper is a huge brown noser to Israel, and its horribly obvious. I'm pretty sure that all Canadians are against it and that they want Canada to go back to being neutral.

I definitely wouldn't say all. I agree with you though, I don't want to be taking sides in this conflict. It's not like the Canadian forces being involved is going to be the tipping point in Israel vs. Iran

 

[Johnnypenso]

Harper is a huge brown noser to Israel, and its horribly obvious. I'm pretty sure that all Canadians are against it and that they want Canada to go back to being neutral.

So let me get this straight.

Israel is the only true democracy in the entire Middle East for going on 65 years. Their neighbours are all either dictators or Kings of some sort. Their neighbours are many times larger and some of them have sworn to destroy Isreal at all costs. Many of their neighbours actively support terrorism in the Middle East and around the world. At least one of their neighbours is months or less away from being able to deliver nuclear warheads directly into the heart of Isreal.

And you think that most Canadians are against supporting Isreal? Seriously give your head a shake, turn off the CBC or whatever liberal station you watch and join the rest of us in the real world.

 

[Müle]

It's absolutely that we want to fight for Israel. It's all Israel/US ass kissing. Harper's been very vocal in his support for Israel. If the US goes to war with Iran, odds are we'll be there too. I just hope I'm proven wrong.

This. The Cons are strictly pro-Israel. If it wasn't obvious before, it is now that they voted "No" on giving Palestine UN status.

How many other Western governments went deep into deficit after the meltdown? All of them. Who is in the best relative shape of all of them? We are. If one agrees with the premise that a government, any government, has a major impact on that type of thing happening, then Harper deserves praise for steady, measured leadership, not blame for a worldwide financial collapse he had no control over.

A lot of the credit has to go to the policies that were put in place before the Cons took power.

Because someone agrees with a cause of someone else, doesn't make us anyone's b:censored: I think most Canadian's would side with Israel in any fight and our government reflects that. We didn't agree with the US on Iraq and in hindsight we look absolutely brilliant, we agreed on Afghanastan for good reason and gave it our best and lost many good young men fighting for a just cause. We make our own choices in our own interest and always have.

We agreed with Afghanistan partly because Canadians were killed on 9/11. Harper has said before that if he were PM in 2003, we would have gone to Iraq to join Bush Jr.'s illegal war as well.

So let me get this straight.

Israel is the only true democracy in the entire Middle East for going on 65 years. Their neighbours are all either dictators or Kings of some sort. Their neighbours are many times larger and some of them have sworn to destroy Isreal at all costs. Many of their neighbours actively support terrorism in the Middle East and around the world. At least one of their neighbours is months or less away from being able to deliver nuclear warheads directly into the heart of Isreal.

Even if that was true (it isn't), what does that have to with us? Why should we have to get involved, wasting money on stuff that we have no business getting involved in. Why do we want to be a part of US nation building?

And you think that most Canadians are against supporting Isreal?

I think most Canadians are against another war, regardless of who's side we're on. I know I am.

 

[RTSolvalou]

So what's happening here? French Canada wants to break away from English Canada? that might an easier way to explain rather than provinces and political party generalisations, I can't make entire sense of the op.

Would love to get an more detailed run down of proceedings.

 

[Johnnypenso]

This. The Cons are strictly pro-Israel. If it wasn't obvious before, it is now that they voted "No" on giving Palestine UN status.

A lot of the credit has to go to the policies that were put in place before the Cons took power.

We agreed with Afghanistan partly because Canadians were killed on 9/11. Harper has said before that if he were PM in 2003, we would have gone to Iraq to join Bush Jr.'s illegal war as well.

Even if that was true (it isn't), what does that have to with us? Why should we have to get involved, wasting money on stuff that we have no business getting involved in. Why do we want to be a part of US nation building?

I think most Canadians are against another war, regardless of who's side we're on. I know I am.

So your position is, you don't want Canada to support a tiny, tiny country, the only true democracy in the region, surround by neighbours 25 times their size in terms of population, 800 times larger in terms of area, whose goal is to wipe their existance off the face of the earth? You just want them to sink or swim on their own? The only country in that entire region that embodies the principles of freedrom and democracy that we as Canadians hold dear? Surrounded by military and religious dictators?

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

I think most Canadians are against another war, regardless of who's side we're on. I know I am.

But, I think the even-more true consensus in Canada, is that we want peace, entirely. So, it won't be us starting the war, but, we'll likely get drawn in, again, to end the war.


If Iran attacks Israel, for example, we'll probably be pretty angry, and will attack Iran, regardless of wanting peace or not. We would want to end the war with Iran, and remind them that they can't just go invading other countries anymore.


The pathetic hatred of the Jews is wrong, in every way. Their vows of destruction? Even worse.

We won't allow Holocaust 2.0.

So what's happening here? French Canada wants to break away from English Canada? that might an easier way to explain rather than provinces and political party generalisations, I can't make entire sense of the op.

Would love to get an more detailed run down of proceedings.

French Canada, no. Just one province, called "Québec," in which French is more commonly spoken than English. And, that's old news. There's less support for it, than ever before, according to many news stations, but the separatist party in Québec took a seat as the official opposition, because the other political parties are also idiots.

 

[Müle]

So your position is, you don't want Canada to support a tiny, tiny country, the only true democracy in the region, surround by neighbours 25 times their size in terms of population, 800 times larger in terms of area, whose goal is to wipe their existance off the face of the earth? You just want them to sink or swim on their own? The only country in that entire region that embodies the principles of freedrom and democracy that we as Canadians hold dear? Surrounded by military and religious dictators?

Oh please. Give me a break

They didn't need our help here.

Or here.

Or here.

etc, etc, etc.

Israel has, by far, the best military in the middle east. They are the only country in the region with nukes (regardless of what they say). They have proven since the day they declared themselves a country that they are more than capable of defending themselves. And that's not even getting into their illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories, taking a hissy fit when Palestine was granted status in the UN, etc.

I don't want my money being used to fund any foreign war. I don't want it used to help with US led nation building. I don't want it being given to Israel. I'd much sooner it be used to help fix any problems within my own borders (I'd sooner not be taxed at all, but none of our parties seem to agree with me).

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

In the case of a war that Israel can win, without help, yes, we don't need to help them.


But, to reiterate, if the Holocaust 2.0 happens, we're 🤬 some people up, as only Canadians can.

 

[Azuremen]

But, to reiterate, if the Holocaust 2.0 happens, we're 🤬 some people up, as only Canadians can.

It seems like you are woefully uneducated about the current issues surrounding Israel.

And what is it that only Canadians can?

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

It seems like you are woefully uneducated about the current issues surrounding Israel.

And what is it that only Canadians can?

Israel is a Jewish country. Many Arabic countries have sworn to destroy the Jewish population entirely. What am I missing?


And, only Canadians can solve a problem like that. I'm astonished, not only to see an American here, but also to see one who doesn't understand a bit of sarcastic humour amongst fellow countrymen.

 

[Azuremen]

Israel is a Jewish country. Many Arabic countries have sworn to destroy the Jewish population entirely. What am I missing?

Apparently a lot if you've simplified the issue to that extent.

It isn't the Jewish population but the land that is the issue. Not to mention Israel hasn't exactly played nice with its neighbors - talking with Jordanian friends of mine about this subject is quite interesting.

And, only Canadians can solve a problem like that. I'm astonished, not only to see an American here, but also to see one who doesn't understand a bit of sarcastic humour amongst fellow countrymen.

Then should I be astonished to see Canadians in the US thread? Or English members discussing US gun policy?

As for the sarcasm, it wasn't clear. And Canada has had relevant military action in the past, such as in France ages ago.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

As for the sarcasm, it wasn't clear. And Canada has had relevant military action in the past, such as in France ages ago.

Or maybe Afghanistan?

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

Someone please kick out the Ontario Liberals and Kathleen Wynne:

The Toronto Star

The deal negotiated by the Ontario government with the province’s public high school teachers bumps up a one-time payout for newer hires that’s meant to compensate for the loss of a bigger payment of unused sick days when they retire.

Progressive Conservative MPP and education critic Lisa MacLeod estimates the increase will cost taxpayers $63 million, will cost taxpayers $63 million, but Education Minister Liz Sandals called her estimate “wildly fictional.”

Sandals did not want to divulge the actual cost “as we are under a media blackout until the (Ontario Secondary School Teachers’ Federation) has an opportunity to talk to their membership about the details of the tentative agreement,” which happens this Thursday.

But she said the larger “wind-up payment” is taken from unexpected savings from cuts imposed in controversial teacher contracts from the 2012-13 budget year — money now reinvested in amendments to the contract.

“We are not changing the amount that we allocated to the agreement; this is not going to cost taxpayers one dollar more than when we started,” she said.

Typically, what happens to such savings is decided by the treasury board. With this deal, Sandals said, “we end up with a system where everybody is working together . . . that’s a win for me.”

Other details of the amended agreement include improvements to unpaid days off, sick leave and maternity leave for both teachers and support staff represented by OSSTF.

They’ll vote on the amendments over the next couple of weeks.

The wind-up payment rises to 25 cents per dollar of a teacher’s salary, up from 10 cents, says a memo sent to directors of education across the province.

The payouts will go to new teachers, as they typically need about 10 years on the job to be eligible.

Teachers with more experience will still receive payment for their unused sick days at retirement, but the number of days they are eligible to cash out was frozen last Aug. 31.

OSSTF President Ken Coran, called it a “fairness issue” for newer teachers.

“This method of giving them 25 cents on the dollar is deemed to address that unfair equity issue,” he said.

MacLeod said the payout now has to be given to all Ontario teachers working for boards where retirement payouts existed, and will cost taxpayers an additional $63 million, assuming an average payout of $1,000 per eligible teacher.

Tory Leader Tim Hudak challenged Premier Kathleen Wynne to put details on the table so Ontarians can judge for themselves.

“This is going to cost us more money,” he told reporters at Queen's Park. “It looks like Kathleen Wynne's first priority as premier was to buy the support of the teacher unions.”

The teachers are going against bullying, while bullying the government? They get guaranteed 10% pension savings that they cannot lose any money on, get a very good pay, and require little education. God, I hate teachers.

 

[Joel]

Someone please kick out the Ontario Liberals and Kathleen Wynne:


The teachers are going against bullying, while bullying the government? They get guaranteed 10% pension savings that they cannot lose any money on, get a very good pay, and require little education. God, I hate teachers.

Yeah, the sense of entitlement from the teachers throughout this whole thing has been ridiculous. Crying and moaning because they won't be able to bank hundreds of sick days for a lump sum payment. Does that make sense to anyone? A 4 year BA and a 1 year joke at teacher's college shouldn't mean getting to phone it in and retire at 55 with an extra half a year's worth of 85K+ salary worth of sick days.

I respect what teachers do and I don't think it's the easiest job in the world or anything, but they have it pretty good. Honestly, teachers talking about how hard they work are working hard entirely by choice, as a recent high school graduate 6/10 of my high school teachers just phoned it in. They did literally the bare minimum required to keep their jobs. Teachers have it really really good, especially compared to the rest of the country who works in the real world and doesn't get 85K for 10 years of experience or 20 sick days a year, dental, health insurance, lump sum payments, cushy pensions, summers and every holiday off, the list goes on.

I wouldn't have an issue with the salary and benefits that teachers get if they weren't so mediocre in my experience. There needs to be more accountability, it's nearly impossible to actually fire a teacher without a sex abuse scandal. If you provide mediocre results for 5 years in the private sector, you don't get a guaranteed raise, you get fired. There needs to be more accountabilty and a way to get the old guard who have become complacent after working for 20 years. The best teachers I had were the ones who came on for 6 months after a contracted teacher left on maternity/injury leave. There's tons of quality teachers who are waiting until they're 30 to get a contract because the 40 somethings have seniority and that means more than quality of work in a union.

 

[Müle]

I already wasn't going to vote for her. This just seals it. Can't wait for the election this year.

 

[Müle]

Surprise surprise, attack ads by the Cons. What else is new?

 

[Johnnypenso]

As much as I dislike attack ads on either side, Trudeau deserves just about anything they throw at him. He's a joke. He has no experience in anything remotely resembling leadership or business. He's an empty suit if there ever was one. If I were a liberal I'd be ashamed of who my party made leader. Being good looking and having your father's name are not good reasons to be elected the leader of a party that could potentially be running the country at some point in the future.

 

[Müle]

Still a better alternative than the guy in charge now

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

Still a better alternative than the guy in charge now

+1

Both Harper and the Ontario Liberals need to go.

Harper brown noses Israel, while the other brown noses the teachers.

 

[Joel]

Of all the things to criticize Harper for, it's "brown nosing" Israel?

 

[Public'sTwin]

So how 'bout Harper's toupé eh

pretty crazy

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Still a better alternative than the guy in charge now

Isn't this the explanation for all politics?

 

[Joel]

So how 'bout Harper's toupé eh

pretty crazy

I've been in the Annapolis Valley in Nova Scotia for 3 days. There is no internet here. Has something hilarious happened?

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

Nope. Ontarians just want a provincial election. Same as when you left.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Still a better alternative than the guy in charge now

That couldn't be more wrong.

+1

Both Harper and the Ontario Liberals need to go.

Harper brown noses Israel, while the other brown noses the teachers.

If that's all you got, that Harper supports the only enduring Democracy and free country in the entire Middle East, completely surrounded by dictators, kings, princes and wingnuts of various kinds that want nothing more than to wipe them off the face of the planet, then you got nothing.