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A new era in the sense that competitive and authentic racing experiences are now reaching the casual audience. The producer of Assetto Corsa also acknowledged this when he commented on the reward that Kaz got a few days ago.
The GT Sport Epic Whining and Crying Thread
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A new era in the sense that competitive and authentic racing experiences are now reaching the casual audience. The producer of Assetto Corsa also acknowledged this when he commented on the reward that Kaz got a few days ago.
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I should of posted this in here.
Hi I bought GT Sport after I said I wouldn't went for the special edition one.
I wish I hadn't bothered I started by doing the licence things and gold up to number 29 stupid and impossible it will not go around fast enough take the corners any faster and off it goes tried every setting going.
Any how I have chucked the disc in the garbage in the 4 pieces I snapped it in. Best thing to do if it annoys me that much.
So I bid you all farewell good luck and hope you enjoy more than I did .
Now can someone please tell me how to delete my account as I won't be needing it anymore many Thanks Chaps.
Hi I bought GT Sport after I said I wouldn't went for the special edition one.
I wish I hadn't bothered I started by doing the licence things and gold up to number 29 stupid and impossible it will not go around fast enough take the corners any faster and off it goes tried every setting going.
Any how I have chucked the disc in the garbage in the 4 pieces I snapped it in. Best thing to do if it annoys me that much.
So I bid you all farewell good luck and hope you enjoy more than I did .
Now can someone please tell me how to delete my account as I won't be needing it anymore many Thanks Chaps.
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"authentic racing experiences" thats is debatable.For some its true,others will say that its not true.
As far as competitive goes,any E-sports -type- MP game,is competitive.But casuals will never be part of that.Because competitive e-sports are not for casuals.Not everyboby -aka casuals- have the time (or skills) in order to become part of it.
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- TSR_GTWelsh
GT-Sport is basically GT-iRacing. If you see it in that sense, then it makes sense.
For the game to be endorsed by the FIA too, with winners actually going to FIA award events, etc, it's a pretty cool direction to go in. Especially considering it's not impossible for a DS4 user to be quick given the always brilliant pad handling.
For the game to be endorsed by the FIA too, with winners actually going to FIA award events, etc, it's a pretty cool direction to go in. Especially considering it's not impossible for a DS4 user to be quick given the always brilliant pad handling.
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Hi any one know how to delete your account please.
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- Pyano1132
1: Why did you buy a game you knew you didn't want?
2: Why did you buy the collecters edition of a game you didn't want over the standard version?
3: I've golded all the driving school missions in less than a day. Try harder.
4: Why did you snap the disk instead of reselling it?
5: You can't delete your own account.
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Is it? I wish someone had told me so I didn't have to bother golding it first time out...
Your PSN account? Or your GTPlanet account? And you want to delete either because you can't gold a driving school test? How does that make any sense? GTPlanet isn't just about Gran Turismo (and certainly not just about GT Sport) and neither is PSN.
I wish I had the money that I could buy a game brand new and smash it to pieces before playing most of it, rather than returning it to the shop...
This all rather seems to be overreaction after overreaction after overreaction.
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Just the GTPlanet account but I read in FAQs that it isn't possible.
I had a paddy with it and snapped it no worries, yes I could of sold it but I snapped it spilt milk and all that. I don't need the GTPlanet account as I won't be playing GT any more. Nothing sinister I just can't see the point in an account which is becomes invalid to the account holder.
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How wrong could I have been for GTS.
No career mode
No offline championships
No tuning (or very limited, because Kaz doesn't think we can handle it ourselves....rolls eyes)
No dynamic weather or time change
ONLY online saves? Who was the dumbass that suggested that garbage?
To me this looks like a company in finacial crisis. If we look back at the history of GT we can see a decline from the afamed GT3 (I really enjoyed GT4 myself and considered it just as good). Combined with the debacles/issues of GT5-GT6 and the broken promises/lies of Kaz considering parts not included or vastly cut down with the excusses. This (as mentioned) seems to be a repeat and as it is repeating considering the franchises time frame a pattern is starting to show of scaled back development which can be explained by a company running in financial crisis.
GT Sport is a quarter the size of the others yet took just as long to develop? Really Kaz hardware limitations etc etc are no longer excuseable when they are constant and PD are including down scaled features that were more than adequate in older hardware PS systems.
Yet alot state they miss the career nature of the GT series the most?
You say the career nature got mundane and outdated quickly. Yet this is the essense of entertainment - height is gradually built to keep interest. Aka progression through career mode to earn rewards (credits) to purchase new excitement (cars) to learn and experience.
You have giving the notion that the career wasnt enough. What is wrong by having the Sport mode as an offset of the main career. More like what arcade has been to <GT6?
This again to me spells financial trouble. Yet again downgrades and corners cut to push out a somewhat unfinished game. Evident by those concerned by track number limitations and the stated poorly finished tracks that look to be created in the GT5/6 track editor/maker.
That was only a part of GT story so far. I beleive people are more reffering to the previous GranTurismos where we were able to qualify for the racing grid, eliminating the chase the rabbit feeling.
Yes i know some are going to tell me not to get GT Sport then, considering what I've said. Yes i know, to me the franchise has been in decline since GT4. I bought GT5 as the earlier ones were masterpieces, it was a let down. Yep suck it up that happens. GT6 was going to be this and that - GREAT sounds really exciting! The lies began to unfold of broken promises and scaled back features - GT Sport i chose not to purchase at all. The demo rolled out and i tried it. Yes the game is a vast vast improvement but I am not interested in "sport". To me a video game is a game, if i want to compete i can do that playing actually physical sports. I just want to play as a wind down casually and gt sport is not that. I dislike having to wait for a race to begin nor the online constant connection - so i havent and will not purchase GT Sport. Sadly this is a first for me in the series having grown up with it. But saying all this i give credit to PD. GT Sport has been a vast step in the right direction reflecting on their lattest let downs. For what it is and aimed at GT Sport does an extremely good job. Its just not for me
I get what you're saying but, GT-Racing and racing in general is ridiculously expensive, where-as this FIA endorsed E-Sports platform costs £50
Lol - yep motor racing isn't cheap. I was more trying to convey i play video games for enjoyment and to unwind from the day/life. Not to compete, though I rather see a strong offline career mode with the option to compete against other players.
Plus GT Sport isnt really that cheap either, just against actual motorsport. Still need the console, tv/monitor/screen, electricity, internet connection and maybe a wheel plus the PS Plus subscription. Initially costs about £600 then say £340 after per year for the internet, ps subscription and generally electricity costs. (Sorry im from aus so trying to vaguely approximate costs into pounds and not entirely sure of costs for the above within Europe/UK).
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Look on the back 0f the box, this being PDI I'm sure there's something written on the box that isn't in the game. Tell them you want a refund because you don't do lies. You could quote Kaz but I don't think that would stand.
I don't think people just have problem with that, but the fact they made no attempt to offer a good career mode and just thought "screw that, dump it". Then hide behind GT Sport, despite trying to convince people it's basically GT7.
Actually he didn't acknowledged what you are claiming. GTS hasn't been out for 20 years, he was defending Kaz's Honorary inclusion, which was for his prior history not GTsport. He acknowledged that he brought racing games beyond the niche market.
GT5 sold 10 million, GT franchise has sold 70 million, so what's this "new era in the sense that competitive and authentic racing experiences are now reaching the casual audience" all about? It reached the casual player years ago but you are somehow attributing it to GTsport which has been out a week. And we know nothing of how well it go over the long course as many may just play the way they always have, I.e custom lobbies, like they've done for 10 years. Amazing how GT fans completely interpret things their own way.
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- booch16
You nailed it! 100/100 on staying relevant to the thread title.
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People like to gravitate towards the familiar and GT1-6 all support that premise. But there comes a time when the formula has to be redefined and you have to take into account that a new generation is starting to play your game. The series started in 1997 which is more than 20 years ago; that's almost an entire human generation. This means that GT has been part of almost the entirety of some gamers lives, or at least for all the time that they have had an interest in video games. That is something truly special.
However, Polyphony now wants to open up a new chapter for the series, and much due to the fact that they have the opportunity to teach a new generation of gamers what racing is all about. GTS is therefor more focused on the core aspects of racing, and how you can grow as a racing driver. The feeling of progression is maintained on track, and not necessarily through rpg like systems where you buy/sell, tune, repeat races etc. Therefor the old career mode has lost some of its purpose; which really was to rise as quickly as possible so that you could get the money to buy a car that was powerful enough to lap anything within minutes.
And the career mode also made a very poor job of acknowledging the experience of the GT players. You always had to start in a grandma car in Sunday Cup and work yourself up through events with a painfully slow racing pace. And in some iterations you couldn't even continue without having to do licence tests with such simple objectives as breaking and acceleration. GT Sport almost gets rids of this completely; it is not out to waste your time and knowledge. Sport Mode has three classes for three individual type of racers and the challenge and circuit experience tests are all very inclusive for both new and old GT players. Cars are sports cars right from the start and you don't have to buy upgrade parts in order to be competitive. Just pick a car and get out on track.
I don't believe that GT Sport is perfect, but as a long-time fan of the series I'm totally on the same page as Polyphony with this one. I have already had some of my most memorable races in this game. It is just so much joy to race in this game.
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I’m not seeing the benefits of removing it, especially when Sport Mode, the main part of the game, only has three races to do at a time, which isn’t much variety. And we still don’t even if PD will change them on regular, daily basis. They just seem to be doing it when they feel like it.
Like I suggested, a class based career mode would have been different from what we’ve seen in the past. No upgrades means you can’t overpower the AI either. It would have been a decent first step. But no, PD would rather throw out the career mode entirely than try to improve it.
Furthermore, online racing will never offer the same sense of progression that a career mode will. Once you reach S-rank in Sport Mode, what changes other than racing against opponents of the same rank? You’re still stuck doing the same races that PD decides to put up.
Yes, because it was replaced with something even worse. The so-called “Campaign” Mode is mostly just a series of short challenges that can be completed in less than a week, which is pitiful.
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You and me both. I'm not the fastest and have to use a controller, but I am still having fun and enjoyable races with people. While I still completed all of the career modes in previous games, that seemed like more of a chore than for enjoyment. This is the first game since GT4 that I'm staying up too late saying, "Okay okay.. just one more race then I'll go to bed."
To tie back into the thread, I hate the seaside chicane in Dragon Trail. You get it a little wrong, and you're in the wall and causing problems for other people. :X
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- Johnnypenso
Now there is some revisionist history.
What were once core elements of the greatest selling sim racing franchise in history are now referred to as a waste of time and knowledge now that they are removed from the series. I don't think I'm alone in saying that I find this absolutely fascinating.
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Now there is some revisionist history.
That's my own subjective opinion, I cannot speak for everyone else. And I've been of this opinion for years now; it's the main reason why I didn't care much for GT5 and GT6. But there are some reviewers that seem to agree with me. Gamereactor for instance praised the removal of the classic career mode. They thought that the new approach made GTS the best game in the series since the early Playstation era.
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IRacing has a userbase of around 55,000 people. I'm going to hazard a guess that GT Sport sells and reaches out to 100x more people. The point is, that is why GT Sports is important and in some ways a game changer. It's bringing eSports racing professionalism and education out of a niche and to the masses.
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With the vision they had for this game, why did they bother with Drift Trials...? Why did they not make it an option to create drift trials lobbies like in GT6? Why make a seperate drift sheet in the tuning section without including the necessary options specifically based for drifting, like steering angle for example? Why is the clutch still the same as the one in GT5 and what gave them the notion that it was fine before? So many questions.
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