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Tedehur
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I don't expect Kent to choose the Nürburgring for a registration race.
ATM I'm busy racing on El Capitan in the Hommel Berlinette (french car) on soft tyres, and the cars slides in a lovely way
Definitely a combo to experiment (thanks to NielsG who initiated it).
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- Small_Fryz
a good track for qualification is el capitan, the good drivers will stand out!
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flat-outI don't expect Kent to choose the Nürburgring for a registration race. ATM I'm busy racing on El Capitan in the Hommel Berlinette (french car) on soft tyres, and the cars slides in a lovely way
Why not?
If he left a very wide margin for error, it would be the perfect way to select his divisions.
Using the time slots from the license test would be a good start, any time under 9 mins in the right car is worthy of div 2 etc.....
Lets face it, if you cant get round the nurb, or dont want to, then u probably shouldnt be thinking about racing the WRS, because your passion for GT isnt bubbling at your throat like ours is.
What kind of opposition do u want in this series? Personally i love being tested and thoroughly beaten by the best, it humbles me, but lets me believe i must be up to a certain standard, but if the field were full of people who raced Grand Valley, but not Laguna Seca because the corkscrew "did their head in" we wouldnt have half as much fun.
I agree with you that what i said was probably at first glance a ludicrous statement, or too high a bar to set for the Quali race, and was maybe due to the level of continuous excitement i have been feeling since early last week, but on reflection i dont think it was that bad an idea at all.
Tedehur
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Nailing a perfect lap on the N-ring required a lot of time since the lap is incredibly longer than any other track in the game.
Which means that a quali race on this track will probably keep away drivers who play only occasionnally. And we'll end up with only the 20 WRS regular drivers instead of the 250 currently registered.
I think the N-ring is too selective for being the WRS qualification track.
That would be a good track if you want to create a "premium drivers" club, where people racing 4 hours a day can share their passion. Sorry, their addiction.
See my point ?
I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm playing 2 or 3 hours a day (or 5 / 6 hours since GT4 has been released) and I would like a quali lap on the N-ring, but this just doesn't fit in the WRS concept.
Do you fancy a Nürburgring 100 laps in a stock Beetle
Which means that a quali race on this track will probably keep away drivers who play only occasionnally. And we'll end up with only the 20 WRS regular drivers instead of the 250 currently registered.
I think the N-ring is too selective for being the WRS qualification track.
That would be a good track if you want to create a "premium drivers" club, where people racing 4 hours a day can share their passion. Sorry, their addiction.
See my point ?
I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm playing 2 or 3 hours a day (or 5 / 6 hours since GT4 has been released) and I would like a quali lap on the N-ring, but this just doesn't fit in the WRS concept.
Do you fancy a Nürburgring 100 laps in a stock Beetle
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Hmm, 100 laps in a stock beetle? Why not the Diahatsu Midget ('63), or the Honda Life Step Van ('72), or the VW Beetle 1100 Standard ('49). Hell, why not the Model T? GO SHOOT YOURSELF!
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Hey all, I wanted to come in and drop some ideas on every one.
First,
The rules regarding verification...
I'm thinking about making a standard that any and all division 1 drivers are subject to verfication request.
(this would not carry for d2 or d3 in a way other than it had in the past)
This move should have been expected by some of you...
In fact, this has been in the works for a while since we are now in the process of bringing a gtp database online (gtp leaderboards).
For the leaderboards there will be required verification for the top times submitted.
With the WRS being an obvious choice for contributions to the leaderboards it would only make sense to hold our top drivers to standards similar to those used in the leaderboards.
What do you all think?
Also,
I hate to say this...
But I screwed by by downloading my old pm's and accidentally deleting them... This means that the 105 & 106 results have been lost.
Sorry about that.
Another thing,
which replay should we be using for time submissions?
My vote is for the "ghost replay" since the file name list the actual race time (unlike the "replay" which list an odd time that can be off by as much as 20 seconds).
Thanks for hearing me out on these issues and giving me all of your opinions.
Until I hear back from a few of you...
-Kent
First,
The rules regarding verification...
I'm thinking about making a standard that any and all division 1 drivers are subject to verfication request.
(this would not carry for d2 or d3 in a way other than it had in the past)
This move should have been expected by some of you...
In fact, this has been in the works for a while since we are now in the process of bringing a gtp database online (gtp leaderboards).
For the leaderboards there will be required verification for the top times submitted.
With the WRS being an obvious choice for contributions to the leaderboards it would only make sense to hold our top drivers to standards similar to those used in the leaderboards.
What do you all think?
Also,
I hate to say this...
But I screwed by by downloading my old pm's and accidentally deleting them... This means that the 105 & 106 results have been lost.
Sorry about that.
Another thing,
which replay should we be using for time submissions?
My vote is for the "ghost replay" since the file name list the actual race time (unlike the "replay" which list an odd time that can be off by as much as 20 seconds).
Thanks for hearing me out on these issues and giving me all of your opinions.
Until I hear back from a few of you...
-Kent
MagpieRacer
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i like your suggestions and wholeheartedly agree on the ghost replay thing.
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Hugo Boss
Maybe top 3 from div.2 must be asked to verified their times too.
I know the lower two div. are less important for the database but for a lot of racers podiums are indeed important.
These people put also a lot of effort in their races.
So future cheaters in all levels must be scared away.
Tedehur
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Here are my 2 cents :
I'm afraid people might otherwise be thinking that div1 are real racers field while div2 and div3 are just bad drivers playgrounds.
It's now an old thing, and the more I'm thinking about this (as far as my dynamic stats are concerned) the more I think that I should reset all points scores and start a new ranking for the GT4 WRS.
The "ghost replay" is much more accurate and requires less space on the mem card (1 lap only).
Hope it helps.
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I second this, and I also second Sjaak when he suggests that the verification process should be extended to div2 and div3 podiums. That'd only be an extra 6 drivers to check but that'd make the battles in these divisions much more legitimate.Kent
I'm afraid people might otherwise be thinking that div1 are real racers field while div2 and div3 are just bad drivers playgrounds.
Race 106 was organized by Ron, and he posted the results, so only week 105 (S2000 race car at Tokyo if I remember well) is missing.KentBut I screwed by by downloading my old pm's and accidentally deleting them... This means that the 105 & 106 results have been lost.
Sorry about that.
It's now an old thing, and the more I'm thinking about this (as far as my dynamic stats are concerned) the more I think that I should reset all points scores and start a new ranking for the GT4 WRS.
I don't see any reason to give the "replay" any credit.Kent
The "ghost replay" is much more accurate and requires less space on the mem card (1 lap only).
Hope it helps.
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yes im all for it.
Div2 winner needs to post replays, but not anyone in div3 (but they can if they want), this mainly becuase most high end races have maxdrives (which are in high div2 and div1) where as the casual racer in div3 and middle div2 would probably not have a maxdrive.
As far as im aware there is no time difference between ghost replay and full replay, the difference being ghost only uses the fastest lap where as full uses the whole session. Id say go for ghost.
All for your idea kent 👍
Div2 winner needs to post replays, but not anyone in div3 (but they can if they want), this mainly becuase most high end races have maxdrives (which are in high div2 and div1) where as the casual racer in div3 and middle div2 would probably not have a maxdrive.
As far as im aware there is no time difference between ghost replay and full replay, the difference being ghost only uses the fastest lap where as full uses the whole session. Id say go for ghost.
All for your idea kent 👍
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How does one get a reply off of a PS2 memory card? Is that the GameShark or other stuff I've heard about but never paid any attention to? Or is there some mode I've missed within GT4 that would save off a replay to a USB memory card (like photo mode does and I've got working)?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Blake
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The best I could do is post a photo of my car as it crosses the line and gets the lap time and post all times from the Data logger, assuming it still has all those tiny sectors, I haven't looked at it yet.
Good idea but it's hard to get everyone to do it - including me ... unless someone felt like buying me something that will do it
Blake
Good idea but it's hard to get everyone to do it - including me ... unless someone felt like buying me something that will do it
Blake
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Data logger? I'm confused.
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I have no objections what so ever for every Div 1 driver having to pony up their replay's. I actually like that ideal alot :thumbsup:
thats a problem for some people though, like me. I have no sharkport or x-port etc so cant post replays , and i dont want to buy one . i dont even have a digital camera or anything as my usb port is bung 👎 so i got no way in hell of verifying my lap times. So naturally im against this rule , but i probably am a crap racer so wont need to verify anything.
but if i got my usb port fixed id be for it 👍
but if i got my usb port fixed id be for it 👍
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I'm all for division 1 being 100% verified. I'm sure all the div.1 drivers would feel alot better about putting thier time in knowing that everyone is running legit. There's going to be tons of new people participating now that GT4 is out and this will make it much easier to sort out the legal drivers from the people who are just cheaters and full of $h17. Anyone hanging with div.1 should be proud to share thier time and have nothing to hide anyway.
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Thought you all should know a few things I am implimenting today.
The deadline for all races will now be sunday-night /monday-morning midnight 12:00am EST.
This is the same as 5am monday morning GMT.
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All drivers are subject to a request for replay verification, however, only the winner of division 1 must provide a replay for their winning lap.
That is all.
Thanks you for your time.
btw, be ready for the first week of the wrs gt4 coming tonight.
Remember, new york time (aka EST) at midnight of sunday and monday!
Same as GMT 5am monday!
That's the new date!
Thank you for your understanding but without this change I would not be able to continue organizing the races.
So thanks again.
If any of you have concerns over this change please raise your concerns now!
This might be the last chance to work this out (since the series will start tonight under these circumstances).
The deadline for all races will now be sunday-night /monday-morning midnight 12:00am EST.
This is the same as 5am monday morning GMT.
&
All drivers are subject to a request for replay verification, however, only the winner of division 1 must provide a replay for their winning lap.
That is all.
Thanks you for your time.
btw, be ready for the first week of the wrs gt4 coming tonight.
Remember, new york time (aka EST) at midnight of sunday and monday!
Same as GMT 5am monday!
That's the new date!
Thank you for your understanding but without this change I would not be able to continue organizing the races.
So thanks again.
If any of you have concerns over this change please raise your concerns now!
This might be the last chance to work this out (since the series will start tonight under these circumstances).
. I can't wait to start 👍. I think we will see an ultimately improved WRS in GT4 now that replay verification is required for D1 winners.- 140
Yippee! Tonight can't come fast enough.
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Speaking in a non-official, but seasoned, embittered, grizzled, cynical online racer, yes, with the following limitations:
Chase 2 view - to allow any touches or "offs" to be clearly seen.
Include loading screen with car's power and tyres displayed (this leaves weight as a variable which could possibly be cheated on, but it's as good as you're going to get)
Chase 2 view - to allow any touches or "offs" to be clearly seen.
Include loading screen with car's power and tyres displayed (this leaves weight as a variable which could possibly be cheated on, but it's as good as you're going to get)
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Famine, what in the world are you doing inside a non-official, but seasoned, embittered, grizzled, cynical online racer? 
I for one am saddened by the news that the time has shifted to a Sunday/Monday, as i have to access GTP from work, meaning i will have to submit times on a Friday now, and i will therefore have less time to run them, literally only Monday and Wednesday evenings, due to other work commitments, but i suppose this is a small price to pay for the feeling of great security that has been re-instilled in me since Kent's return, I'm sure organising all of us into races and then structuring the results must be a gargantuan task, and i hold Famine in great esteem for grappling with it over the last few weex, (not to mention his love of Red Dwarf) but there is something homely and familiar about seeing Kents avatar on the first post that i find somewhat re-assuring, and i am more than happy to try in the limited time that i have, if it means that he can stay in charge.
In keeping with the current topic, i would like to praise the idea that racers show their replays, as i have bought a Max Drive specifically to do so, as i want the world to see my efforts, but i think one solid fact has been overlooked, or gone unmentioned:
We all race here to prove our worth and see where we stack up in the world, but when someone beats us by up to 5 seconds, and we thought we had the fastest time ever (not mentioning any names...cough...Hugo...cough) we all want to see the replay!
I remember someone saying in a thread called something like "What the WRS has taught us" or something, that we had all learned how to go faster through being pushed by others, and by watching their efforts in replay form, and i think this is an invaluable point.
It should be compulsory for all Division 1 racers to post replays. After all they are going so much faster than the rest of the field, and they are obviously serious about what they do, otherwise they wouldnt have qualified in Div 1 in the first place.....
We should be able to study their lines, and benefit from the experience, thus enhancing our own games.
Sharing with the world, is what it is all about.
Now feel free to rip my monologue to pieces.......
I for one am saddened by the news that the time has shifted to a Sunday/Monday, as i have to access GTP from work, meaning i will have to submit times on a Friday now, and i will therefore have less time to run them, literally only Monday and Wednesday evenings, due to other work commitments, but i suppose this is a small price to pay for the feeling of great security that has been re-instilled in me since Kent's return, I'm sure organising all of us into races and then structuring the results must be a gargantuan task, and i hold Famine in great esteem for grappling with it over the last few weex, (not to mention his love of Red Dwarf) but there is something homely and familiar about seeing Kents avatar on the first post that i find somewhat re-assuring, and i am more than happy to try in the limited time that i have, if it means that he can stay in charge.
In keeping with the current topic, i would like to praise the idea that racers show their replays, as i have bought a Max Drive specifically to do so, as i want the world to see my efforts, but i think one solid fact has been overlooked, or gone unmentioned:
We all race here to prove our worth and see where we stack up in the world, but when someone beats us by up to 5 seconds, and we thought we had the fastest time ever (not mentioning any names...cough...Hugo...cough) we all want to see the replay!
I remember someone saying in a thread called something like "What the WRS has taught us" or something, that we had all learned how to go faster through being pushed by others, and by watching their efforts in replay form, and i think this is an invaluable point.
It should be compulsory for all Division 1 racers to post replays. After all they are going so much faster than the rest of the field, and they are obviously serious about what they do, otherwise they wouldnt have qualified in Div 1 in the first place.....
We should be able to study their lines, and benefit from the experience, thus enhancing our own games.
Sharing with the world, is what it is all about.
Now feel free to rip my monologue to pieces.......
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