The GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread

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I dont think I like PD anymore. $49.99 FOR 7 million credits. Kaz should be embarrassed and should issue an apology. If not Im certainly done with the GT series. Scumbag of scumbag EA lets you unlock all 50 NFS Rivals cars instantly for $9.99. Try unlocking all the super car caliber NFS models in GT6 for $49.99. Yeah right.

It was one thing PD to make a dated game, but now to fleece gamers like this is unacceptable. Project CARS cant come soon enough.
 
I dont think I like PD anymore. $49.99 FOR 7 million credits. Kaz should be embarrassed and should issue an apology. If not Im certainly done with the GT series. Scumbag of scumbag EA lets you unlock all 50 NFS Rivals cars instantly for $9.99. Try unlocking all the super car caliber NFS models in GT6 for $49.99. Yeah right.

It was one thing PD to make a dated game, but now to fleece gamers like this is unacceptable. Project CARS cant come soon enough.
Just a glimpse of the awesomeness that Project CARS will be:

Just for comparison, Forza 5 graphics are nothing compared to it.
 
I dont think I like PD anymore. $49.99 FOR 7 million credits. Kaz should be embarrassed and should issue an apology. If not Im certainly done with the GT series. Scumbag of scumbag EA lets you unlock all 50 NFS Rivals cars instantly for $9.99. Try unlocking all the super car caliber NFS models in GT6 for $49.99. Yeah right.

It was one thing PD to make a dated game, but now to fleece gamers like this is unacceptable. Project CARS cant come soon enough.

You do know prices are set by the PSN store in your area?

The US pays less for 1,000,000cr than australians.
 
I dont think I like PD anymore. $49.99 FOR 7 million credits. Kaz should be embarrassed and should issue an apology. If not Im certainly done with the GT series. Scumbag of scumbag EA lets you unlock all 50 NFS Rivals cars instantly for $9.99. Try unlocking all the super car caliber NFS models in GT6 for $49.99. Yeah right.

It was one thing PD to make a dated game, but now to fleece gamers like this is unacceptable. Project CARS cant come soon enough.

You could unlock all 120 cars in Shift 2 for 19.99 and you could just keep buying them over and over again, in GT6 you'll need to pay double if you want 2 of the same car (collectors are gonna be playing this for decades)
 
You could unlock all 120 cars in Shift 2 for 19.99 and you could just keep buying them over and over again, in GT6 you'll need to pay double if you want 2 of the same car (collectors are gonna be playing this for decades)
I unlocked every car in the game for free..all it took was time. Time is money. Took about 5 hours to get everything set up and 300 cars in my garage. At my rate of compensation 5 hours is a lot more than $19.99:lol: Everything is relative. But I paid nothing and have my garage fully set up in GT6.:eek:
 
Not an excuse no; base price is the same but you just look at the difference between US and Aussie dollars?
In the end it's a robbery world wide, doesn't matter your monetary status.

Even when our dollar was stronger, we still paid more.

so the dollar doesn't mean much.

and if you race with your head you wont have to buy upgrades or a new car each new event.

I did 4 races on Bathurst tonight with my quattro rally and won each time, even though the pp kept getting lower.

I just set my car to be quick with less power.

I narrowed the tranny, lowered downdorce a tiny bit, adjusted the VCD.
 
Even when our dollar was stronger, we still paid more.

so the dollar doesn't mean much.

and if you race with your head you wont have to buy upgrades or a new car each new event.

I did 4 races on Bathurst tonight with my quattro rally and won each time, even though the pp kept getting lower.

I just set my car to be quick with less power.

I narrowed the tranny, lowered downdorce a tiny bit, adjusted the VCD.
Have you checked your body rigidity? :D
 
The career mode so far in this game is retarded, i mean seriously how boring can it be. Maybe it will get funner as I reach international B but national A just looks so boring I don't even want to try it and it's not as rewarding as it should be.

Really...they just make you run more laps and more races/events as if that improves anything. I want less quantity and more quality racing and make it rewarding so we can actually afford cars in this game instead of completing half of the game to unlock one Ferrari FXX.

So far this career mode is boring me. If it gets any better please let me know so I can out effort into this.

The racing is really fun though I've had a lot more fun racing in this game than GT5 and I like the goodwood events and new racing suits and nice vehicles with a variety of rally cars, and more.

Fix the career mode for the next series. And patch this thing already give us double the money or triple than we are getting now I can't afford a car for my ass unless it's mediocre. This is ********.

Patch the ****ing game!

I dont think I like PD anymore. $49.99 FOR 7 million credits. Kaz should be embarrassed and should issue an apology. If not Im certainly done with the GT series. Scumbag of scumbag EA lets you unlock all 50 NFS Rivals cars instantly for $9.99. Try unlocking all the super car caliber NFS models in GT6 for $49.99. Yeah right.

It was one thing PD to make a dated game, but now to fleece gamers like this is unacceptable. Project CARS cant come soon enough.

One dollar should give us a million credits end of story.

$7= seven million credits.

I'm down for that and that's what would be fair to the gamers especially since developers are false advertising for the purpose of game sales only.

Besides maybe DICE and BF4.
 
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My biggest complaint is really just the car sounds - are just weak, not authentic and take me out of the game. The "feel" is great, nothing wrong in that department. The lack of all the cockpit views is annoying...but not too annoying.

I am also playing Forza5 currently, and enjoy them both for separate reasons, but I just feel like GT6 single player is really lacking as usual. The online is fun so far. The PP system still makes zero sense to me....but I'm sure there is a method to the madness.

And yes, Project CARS, I am opted into that beta a while back, and it is pretty stunning, I can't wait for a full game to come out from what I've played so far....
 
One dollar should give us a million credits end of story.

$7= seven million credits.

I'm down for that and that's what would be fair to the gamers especially since developers are false advertising for the purpose of game sales only.

Besides maybe DICE and BF4.

Developers have nothing to do with advertising, sales or pricing.
 
I should hope so, on a PC with max settings.

You don't need max settings, the thread for PCars proves that, also why wouldn't they be able to do well on next gen consoles. You do realize SMS are quite good with graphics on the console level too right?
 
You don't need max settings, the thread for PCars proves that, also why wouldn't they be able to do well on next gen consoles. You do realize SMS are quite good with graphics on the console level too right?
I'm sure they'll do quite well, it's the "blow everything else away at medium settings" I'm yet to be convinced of. If they go for 30Hz update of course it'll be a breeze.
 
Pcars is definitely marked in mister dog's agenda, full thrust in SMS to give us a great racing game next year 👍
 
hey would you look at that, I predicted (correctly) that PD would have diminishing return issues as they proceeded to update the game from the outside via patches, and what do you know we've got issues (e.g data save issues, interior premium view distorted lighting). Now they'll have to do what they did with 5 and cure issues they made by patching the original game while also putting in new content. It's funny cause the fanatical fans never thought this would happen...

I just hope that PD can keep improving and not have some many reciprocating issues for the ones they fixed like they had with GT5.
 
The rev limiter light on the steering wheel of the Junior X2014 is fixed on for whatever reason. Really quite annoying.

EDIT:

No wait, it just kicks in at 6,000RPM.

But you never go under 6,000RPM in a race...
 
hey would you look at that, I predicted (correctly) that PD would have diminishing return issues as they proceeded to update the game from the outside via patches, and what do you know we've got issues (e.g data save issues, interior premium view distorted lighting). Now they'll have to do what they did with 5 and cure issues they made by patching the original game while also putting in new content. It's funny cause the fanatical fans never thought this would happen...

I just hope that PD can keep improving and not have some many reciprocating issues for the ones they fixed like they had with GT5.

Honest question-
Do you feel it will happen? I mean do you see gt6 getting straightened out smoothly or plagued long term with weird issues?
(I came into gt5 very late and am blown away the tuning effects/physics never got straightened out, now seeing same + weird stuff here..did they even test the game?)
 
Honest question-
Do you feel it will happen? I mean do you see gt6 getting straightened out smoothly or plagued long term with weird issues?
(I came into gt5 very late and am blown away the tuning effects/physics never got straightened out, now seeing same + weird stuff here..did they even test the game?)

I think they test but I don't think they do a good job of it to be honest, I think they rely too much on the factor of patching the game. I think all around devs do and to be honest they should be aware that such patches will have a diminishing effect and potentially cause other bugs.

As for smooth...no I don't think it will be because of them relying on it, but then again they could possibly get it at some point we'll have to see.
 
further whining, with a laugh though-
I like that they waited to add the log in bonus, I can hear a guy saying "hey if we hold off on the little perks like log in bonus and add them into the game slowly we can keep them calmed down until we get all this other crap fixed, of course if you decide it's worth fixing, sir.." "good idea, Fred, I like it, now make it sound like I made it up" llol
 
Ok, I along with quite a few million people have now had there chance to get their copy of GT 6 and get stuck in to the latest installment of PD's Real Driving Simulator. And by the looks of it, there seems to be a MASSIVE amount of "GT fans" and I do use that term lightly, whining and crying about how hard it is to earn money in this game and how PD are conning money out of people by keeping the prize money down too low, not giving log-in bonuses, by having seasonal events which don't pay out as much as they did in GT 5 and by not giving as many prize cars as before.

So can I firstly say, Yes not getting the prize cars for each event series which is not a "Championship Series" is a little disappointing. However, I don't recall in ANY of the previous games getting given a car because I had half finished a particular"level" as you do here with the new "Star System". I know that it is not quite the same as there are 7 or 8 race series' plus per level and in some of them only one Championship series so instead of receiving 9 or 10 prize cars, you will get only 3. So for this particular whine, I do tend to agree with the masses.

And this is where the empathy ends!

Secondly, To the subject of PD trying to con money out of everyone by keeping the prize money low and to the people who have made this point. I would like to ask a series of questions. Did you actually play any of the games in this series before you got this one? If you did, you would have noticed the following things. In every game previously when you begin in the lower levels the prize money always sucked and lo and behold the higher up the levels you go the better the money you get. Pretty simple concept I would think, no!? Also, in ALL of the previous games you either had to Complete the relevant license tests in order to compete in the race events for any particular level,or in GT 5 you had to gain the experience through the lower levels or license tests in order to be allowed to compete in the higher level races. But now everyone has the chance to fast track through every level by doing a bare minimum of races to unlock the licence which lets you move up to the next level and then repeat this until you are racing in the International A class or Special class. Now question 2 Correct me if I'm wrong but does this not LET YOU spend one days gaming before you can earn in excess on 100K per race? Allowing you to earn a lot more money way earlier than in ANY of the previous games, not to mention the races seem way easier than any previous game despite PD putting PP limits and tyre regulations in. So where EXACTLY do the "It's so hard to earn money" gripes come from?
So, PD are conning you by having low payouts and MAKING you buy credits for real money. By my understanding the Micro-transactions give the people who either don't have as much time to devote to the game a chance to get some decent cars to use, give the impatient and lazy people a chance to get to the cars they would otherwise actually have to put in some effort to be able to afford, to give people who DON'T WANT to play the career mode but just want to go online and race with friends, some cars to use until they start making money this way, or could it be possible( and I'm sure this hasn't actually crossed the mind of MOST of you complainers about this issue) that instead of having to go to the PS store to get any DLC packs which come out and then having to load the game and install them, as was the norm in GT 5, that PD have in fact just enabled ALL of this to be handled directly from your main game homepage!?Which will save you some time and will probably cost the same as previous DLC. As was, just out of interest, the intention from both Sony and PD from the start as highlighted and explained in quite some detail before the release of the PS3 and if you actually looked into it instead of whining, the rough estimates at the time of costs of potential DLC cars and Tracks when they finally got to do it turned out to be exactly what they said it would be all along when they finally arrived in GT 5.
So here is an idea, You don't want to HAVE to give PD or Sony any more money than you have already spent buying the game, try this as a solution to your problem....DON'T!

And to my next point. Seasonal events. These events were added into GT 5 after a couple of months and for along time the prize money from these events(with a few exceptions) would be similar to what could be gained by running International B/A events, but by the time these were added most of the faithful GT fans(Genuine ones this time) had got to the stage of looking at the choice of doing these events for something new to do instead of re-running normal A-Spec events or to leave their Playstations on for periods of 24-48plus hours so they could do the bigger endurance events as PD didn't put the suspend race option in until a lot later, so these events had to be done in one go(and trust me, this was a tough undertaking). It was not until a long time later that the seasonal events started paying out stupid money for really easy races and longer still until the sign-in bonus let you double up on prize money and even longer still before the performance differential bonus was added allowing people to make 4 times the ludicrous amount of money that was being given as prizes for some,at times, still really easy races. So I'm guessing now, that most of the complaints about not being able to make a lot of money in GT 6 are coming from either the "Fans" who didn't actually start playing GT 5 until after most of these EXTRA features had been put in place which allowed them to run through the game really quickly and allowed them to get to Level 40 within a month of starting playing GT 5 and without actually really playing the career mode, which has always been the cornerstone of the Gran Turismo franchise, by younger gamers who never played much of the previous games or by those with the memory capacity of Goldfish.

Now time for my Whine and cry( as if I hadn't started already). I have just been forced to have a few days away from playing GT 6, as my Blu-ray laser decided enough was enough and died on me. So imagine my surprise when I fixed my console, logged in, loaded up GT 6 and found a nice little update( not really little. lol.)which has fixed a couple of the legitimate problems the game had and as usual has probably broke a few things that were fine before( You know it always does.) But Looking into what has been done I was horrified that PD have actually not only put in log-in bonuses already but have put in seasonal events which will pay out an incredible amounts of money, like they didn't make this game easy enough already. I would much rather PD focused on getting the game to perform the way I, a lot of other of the GT faithful and of course Kazunori Yamauchi-san would want it to, before they spent ANY time at all making it so ridiculously easy for the casual Trophy Whores" who want to finish the game as quickly as possible so they can trade the game in while they get a good price for it.

Sorry about the length of the post but I have been reading a lot of the same type of comments in the forums over the past few days/weeks and I really don't see the issue. This is the 8th Gran Turismo game I have played(including 2 Prologues) as well as playing the long lost "Tourist Trophy"( Motorcycle version of GT 4 essentially, for those who don't know) and to be honest the only real complaint I have about this game( bugs and glitches aside) is that I'm not a huge fan of how open and flexible this game is in comparison to all the others. Should you not HAVE to work your way up from being a novice, driving simple cars and making little money and struggling to make it before you get the chance to advance, through hard work to reach the upper levels of Motor Racing.
And if you find that too difficult at any time, could you not just use the resources available to you to make it a little easier. Like for instance use this website to seek advice from what is possibly the best community of gamers I have found, who actually want to help other people to get the most out of these games and visit the tuning forum where there are a good amount of very talented tuners and test drivers that can help you with turning your out of control monsters into ballet dancers to help you through the harder races.

And to all of those Tuners and Testers that may read this post (if you don't fall asleep during it. lol.) Keep up the great work Guys and Galls! I know your efforts are appreciated by a lot of the GT community and you have my thanks also for helping to make GT5 and hopefully GT6 too, even more fun!
 
I think they rely too much on the factor of patching the game. I think all around devs do and to be honest they should be aware that such patches will have a diminishing effect and potentially cause other bugs.

Once it's known that you can patch something, basically fix it later, that can really affect how a team programs. It basically takes away a hard deadline. Having a hard deadline really forces you to dig down, prioritize, and work your best. I've seen it in programming, music writing, graphic arts, anything creative really.
 
Once it's known that you can patch something, basically fix it later, that can really affect how a team programs. It basically takes away a hard deadline. Having a hard deadline really forces you to dig down, prioritize, and work your best. I've seen it in programming, music writing, graphic arts, anything creative really.

Yeah I've had the same experience with software for projects that I had to work on and how they do what they can and rather work in on a patch schedule. So I understand where you're coming from but probably not as strongly as you.
 
Ok, I along with quite a few million people have now had there chance to get their copy of GT 6 and get stuck in to the latest installment of PD's Real Driving Simulator. And by the looks of it, there seems to be a MASSIVE amount of "GT fans" and I do use that term lightly, whining and crying about how hard it is to earn money in this game and how PD are conning money out of people by keeping the prize money down too low, not giving log-in bonuses, by having seasonal events which don't pay out as much as they did in GT 5 and by not giving as many prize cars as before.

So can I firstly say, Yes not getting the prize cars for each event series which is not a "Championship Series" is a little disappointing. However, I don't recall in ANY of the previous games getting given a car because I had half finished a particular"level" as you do here with the new "Star System". I know that it is not quite the same as there are 7 or 8 race series' plus per level and in some of them only one Championship series so instead of receiving 9 or 10 prize cars, you will get only 3. So for this particular whine, I do tend to agree with the masses.

And this is where the empathy ends!

Secondly, To the subject of PD trying to con money out of everyone by keeping the prize money low and to the people who have made this point. I would like to ask a series of questions. Did you actually play any of the games in this series before you got this one? If you did, you would have noticed the following things. In every game previously when you begin in the lower levels the prize money always sucked and lo and behold the higher up the levels you go the better the money you get. Pretty simple concept I would think, no!? Also, in ALL of the previous games you either had to Complete the relevant license tests in order to compete in the race events for any particular level,or in GT 5 you had to gain the experience through the lower levels or license tests in order to be allowed to compete in the higher level races. But now everyone has the chance to fast track through every level by doing a bare minimum of races to unlock the licence which lets you move up to the next level and then repeat this until you are racing in the International A class or Special class. Now question 2 Correct me if I'm wrong but does this not LET YOU spend one days gaming before you can earn in excess on 100K per race? Allowing you to earn a lot more money way earlier than in ANY of the previous games, not to mention the races seem way easier than any previous game despite PD putting PP limits and tyre regulations in. So where EXACTLY do the "It's so hard to earn money" gripes come from?
So, PD are conning you by having low payouts and MAKING you buy credits for real money. By my understanding the Micro-transactions give the people who either don't have as much time to devote to the game a chance to get some decent cars to use, give the impatient and lazy people a chance to get to the cars they would otherwise actually have to put in some effort to be able to afford, to give people who DON'T WANT to play the career mode but just want to go online and race with friends, some cars to use until they start making money this way, or could it be possible( and I'm sure this hasn't actually crossed the mind of MOST of you complainers about this issue) that instead of having to go to the PS store to get any DLC packs which come out and then having to load the game and install them, as was the norm in GT 5, that PD have in fact just enabled ALL of this to be handled directly from your main game homepage!?Which will save you some time and will probably cost the same as previous DLC. As was, just out of interest, the intention from both Sony and PD from the start as highlighted and explained in quite some detail before the release of the PS3 and if you actually looked into it instead of whining, the rough estimates at the time of costs of potential DLC cars and Tracks when they finally got to do it turned out to be exactly what they said it would be all along when they finally arrived in GT 5.
So here is an idea, You don't want to HAVE to give PD or Sony any more money than you have already spent buying the game, try this as a solution to your problem....DON'T!

And to my next point. Seasonal events. These events were added into GT 5 after a couple of months and for along time the prize money from these events(with a few exceptions) would be similar to what could be gained by running International B/A events, but by the time these were added most of the faithful GT fans(Genuine ones this time) had got to the stage of looking at the choice of doing these events for something new to do instead of re-running normal A-Spec events or to leave their Playstations on for periods of 24-48plus hours so they could do the bigger endurance events as PD didn't put the suspend race option in until a lot later, so these events had to be done in one go(and trust me, this was a tough undertaking). It was not until a long time later that the seasonal events started paying out stupid money for really easy races and longer still until the sign-in bonus let you double up on prize money and even longer still before the performance differential bonus was added allowing people to make 4 times the ludicrous amount of money that was being given as prizes for some,at times, still really easy races. So I'm guessing now, that most of the complaints about not being able to make a lot of money in GT 6 are coming from either the "Fans" who didn't actually start playing GT 5 until after most of these EXTRA features had been put in place which allowed them to run through the game really quickly and allowed them to get to Level 40 within a month of starting playing GT 5 and without actually really playing the career mode, which has always been the cornerstone of the Gran Turismo franchise, by younger gamers who never played much of the previous games or by those with the memory capacity of Goldfish.

Now time for my Whine and cry( as if I hadn't started already). I have just been forced to have a few days away from playing GT 6, as my Blu-ray laser decided enough was enough and died on me. So imagine my surprise when I fixed my console, logged in, loaded up GT 6 and found a nice little update( not really little. lol.)which has fixed a couple of the legitimate problems the game had and as usual has probably broke a few things that were fine before( You know it always does.) But Looking into what has been done I was horrified that PD have actually not only put in log-in bonuses already but have put in seasonal events which will pay out an incredible amounts of money, like they didn't make this game easy enough already. I would much rather PD focused on getting the game to perform the way I, a lot of other of the GT faithful and of course Kazunori Yamauchi-san would want it to, before they spent ANY time at all making it so ridiculously easy for the casual Trophy Whores" who want to finish the game as quickly as possible so they can trade the game in while they get a good price for it.

Sorry about the length of the post but I have been reading a lot of the same type of comments in the forums over the past few days/weeks and I really don't see the issue. This is the 8th Gran Turismo game I have played(including 2 Prologues) as well as playing the long lost "Tourist Trophy"( Motorcycle version of GT 4 essentially, for those who don't know) and to be honest the only real complaint I have about this game( bugs and glitches aside) is that I'm not a huge fan of how open and flexible this game is in comparison to all the others. Should you not HAVE to work your way up from being a novice, driving simple cars and making little money and struggling to make it before you get the chance to advance, through hard work to reach the upper levels of Motor Racing.
And if you find that too difficult at any time, could you not just use the resources available to you to make it a little easier. Like for instance use this website to seek advice from what is possibly the best community of gamers I have found, who actually want to help other people to get the most out of these games and visit the tuning forum where there are a good amount of very talented tuners and test drivers that can help you with turning your out of control monsters into ballet dancers to help you through the harder races.

And to all of those Tuners and Testers that may read this post (if you don't fall asleep during it. lol.) Keep up the great work Guys and Galls! I know your efforts are appreciated by a lot of the GT community and you have my thanks also for helping to make GT5 and hopefully GT6 too, even more fun!


Hmm long winded ... sheesh it's just a game ... haha
 
I dont think I like PD anymore. $49.99 FOR 7 million credits. Kaz should be embarrassed and should issue an apology. If not Im certainly done with the GT series. Scumbag of scumbag EA lets you unlock all 50 NFS Rivals cars instantly for $9.99. Try unlocking all the super car caliber NFS models in GT6 for $49.99. Yeah right.

It was one thing PD to make a dated game, but now to fleece gamers like this is unacceptable. Project CARS cant come soon enough.

I think the main problem here is that PD overestimated the true value of these credits. To them, 7 million credits is enough to buy 350 cars worth 20,000 credits each, or 150 cars worth 50,000 each. PD should know by now that their fans demand access to a relatively small number of quality supercars, and don't care the slightest about a high quantity of Skylines and Miatas.

The microtransaction prices should be reduced to a fifth of what it currently is, at least. Turn 10 did it for Forza 5, so PD should follow suit.
 
I just realized, there is a 116 pages of comments about this. Do all you guys really have so many issues with GT6? I'm probably gonna get lit up for this comment, but it seems like theres a lot of nitpicking on issues here.

I mean, I agree there are issues with the game, yes I absolutely hate the atrocious engine sounds on certain cars, yes certain standards look like Ps2 rehashes, and certain other aspects could be better.

Some of these comments are like "I didn't pay for MT, but I hate that MT is there... even though I know that patch 1.02 made it infinitely easier to get credits, I still hate MT"

Or the usual, "all my gauges except the clock is working, the clock says 12:07, but its clearly 8:14, fix it PD".

Some would say that I should move this comment to another thread because it doesn't belong here.

Nope, I am epicly whining and crying about the epic whining and crying in this thread.
 
Some would say that I should move this comment to another thread because it doesn't belong here.

Nope, I am epicly whining and crying about the epic whining and crying in this thread.
This thread is for whining and crying about GT6, not about other people, as such your post is off-topic. :)

Seriously however 116 pages given the size of the community is not a massive thread at all, and GT would appear to have a number of issue (many minor, some major) that people wish to vent about and this is the thread for doing it in.
 

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