The GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread
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First thing i noticed when watching that video, i've heard desk fans that are apparently louder than the X-bow, same monotonous tone as every car in GT5, barely audible over the sound of rumble strips and tires screeching, i don't think PD realizes that if they keep putting out mediocre products their reputation for what made them great (which let's face it was PS1 and PS2 games) won't be around for long, the competition has caught up and now surpassed their most recent efforts.
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Sadly, I have to agree with everything you just said.
I played every GT game so far, starting with the first iteration a long time ago. Best GT game was and will always be GT2. Not because of the graphics, of course; but because of the challenge, the difficulty. In the first GT titles, economy played an important role in the game. At the beginning, you had to buy a crappy car; everyday life car, like the Chrysler PT Cruiser, to try your first races. This was hard then, and you had to redo the same races again and again to get some cash. And for what? To buy a turbo, some upgrade that would help you get that number 1 or 2 rank to get more money. Collecting cars, at that time, took ages and was not practical, because you needed every penny you had to buy cars - carefully - to progress within your career.
But they changed all that with GT4. Over, the economy. Over, the sense of achievement. By then, you just had to run some special event in Italy, win the Cadillac Cien, sell it for millions, then rince, repeat.
All of a sudden, GT series became more about collecting cars, less to race them for real.
GT5 was, and is still, GT4 part 2. Before I got the actual game on my hands, I defended the game everywhere. And then came the huge disappointment as soon as I played it. The physics are good. The graphics are incredible. But that's all. They took the path of a broader audience, living to the fame associated to the name; instead of trying to improve.
There is so much things PD did wrong with GT5, its almost incredible. Some things are small things, while some are very big issues. Instead of fixing those things, PD decided to overwhelm us with a pack of useless things that are not improving our experience. Karts. Nascar. X1. Half baked rallies.
Things they should/could have fixed? A proper hood view, dynamic weather for all tracks, a robust racing editor like "ModNation Racers" or via Google maps, decals and painting to customize cars, etc.
Finally, something changed a lot with the cars selection. In the earlier iterations, you could feel a proper balance between everyday life cars, and supercars. This is not the case anymore and polyphony digital is not even trying to fix that. Going the Need for Speed way, hey?
Look around you. Since GT3, or even GT4; manufacturer build a lot of new cars to drive around. Including, and not limited to : Cadillac CTS-V; Buick Regal, Dodge Dart, Pontiac G5, Chevrolet Malibu, Toyota Avalon; and tons of other. Yet, PD is not modeling those everyday life cars anymore. PD is only going the exotic way.
That's all.
Where is the Pontiac Trans-Am? Where is the BMW 850? Why such a few American cars from the 70, 80 and 90s while literally hundreds of the same S-2000?
Kaz told himself, that with GT5, PD reached the limits of the PS3. The limits he said. I believed him. That was all wrong. Either he lied, Either he was right and GT6 will be the exact same thing as GT5; but with a few more races, and a few more cars.
As for the PS4, we will have to wait at least three years. So, GT7 in 2016-2017?
In the meanwhile, where is going to be our competitor, Forza Motorsport?
It's very sad that GT series turned into an half-baked car collecting paint; instead of a driving simulator. It's a shame.
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If you are basing all of that on one mini presentation, then here is a picture for you:
I think GT6 will be what GT5 should have been and that can only be a good thing. I think the fact that it is being released near the end of the PS3 lifecycle and close to the PS4 release has everyone up in arms. Didn't realise everyone was a computer or software engineer. You can compare specs of both consoles, good on you. Power is nothing without traction. See what I did there 
Anyway, this is a whining thread and I am fast getting off topic. We don't know sheet about anything yet apart from GT6 is coming out soon. With the release of PS4 this year, I guess that is forcing PD to release GT6 this year but we have all heard release dates before. Will GT6 have lost it's 'wow factor' if it releases after the PS4? Dunno. All we can do at the moment is assume and we all know that assumptions are the mother of all _ _ _ _ ups.
Anyway, this is a whining thread and I am fast getting off topic. We don't know sheet about anything yet apart from GT6 is coming out soon. With the release of PS4 this year, I guess that is forcing PD to release GT6 this year but we have all heard release dates before. Will GT6 have lost it's 'wow factor' if it releases after the PS4? Dunno. All we can do at the moment is assume and we all know that assumptions are the mother of all _ _ _ _ ups.
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I knew it was gonna be just another version of the same game it has been since GT3 thats when the real changes should've started but didnt greed will ruin any thing. The developers know with a little bit of hype on the web & BOOM 20 milllon in their pockets, did you really expect something totally diffrent if you did I feel sorry for you its just like Call of Duty they think if it ain broke don't fix it the only way to break them is don't buy a revamped version of GT3, Make them see they are killing a good game, somebody should poll this website so if the developers check out GTPLANET that what they got on the way is NOT what gamers want we already have 5 copys
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Unless this game has citta di aria in it, it will never reach the greatness gt4 had/has.
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I would go a step further and say they dont even do the exotics justice. Where is Koenigsegg? Aston Martin One-77? Ferrari F50? Bugatti EB110? SSC Ultimate Aero? They even made the Countach and Veyron standard in GT5. Pay PD enough money and they'll feature your car (Corvette C7) or even those lousy Daicrapsues
Their racecar list is equally poor. I believe GT5 only had 1 Le Mans car from the past 5 years, the Peugeot 908. Take a peak at Forza's car list to see dozens of prototypes. But PD only makes 3 prototypes premium in GT5.
Where is the Toyota Camry? Ford Fusion? Chevrolet Cruze? In fact it wouldnt surprise me if PD's inability to get Porsche could be traced back to their greed and not wanting to accept whatever large contract they put on the table. If Forza can get Porsche, GT can, if they wanted. Just remember how late PD was onto the Ferrari bandwagon as well as others.
And what is the hunch Im getting from the new trailer and images? More of the same. Car slots in GT now belong to the highest bidder. The new Tesla. Why is it one of the first cars we see? Must be a high bidder. The Nissan GTR Academy car shoved down our throats yet again. Their generous donations are very welcome.
You're point is very clear. GT is not a car life racing simulation anymore. If anything, its an interactive advertisement for Nissan based around collecting Japanese cars. Forza's mission is clear: Be a fun racer where gear heads can tune and customize their cars and race them. I'm not even sure what GT is about anymore. GT Academy maybe? Terrible, poorly thought out short samples of real life motorsport disciplines like karting, rally, and NASCAR?
Thats a real problem with Gran Turismo, it has no direction. It has plenty of brawn, but very little brains. They can hype all the new features they want as much as they want. But I have zero faith they will flesh any of them out to a reasonable level. I continue to expect more levels of laziness, and lack of care, or thought such as prototypes at the Nuburgring 24 hours or sportscars at the Indy 500
As I said earlier, PD has an elevated view of themselves. They refuse to learn from Turn 10, or even listen to their fans. Really a shame.
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Awww Earth. 
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For someone like me who would not be able to afford a PS4 upon release, I'm very happy that there's one more GT in the PS3's life cycle. I have absolutely no problem with spending a little more money on what is, admittedly at first glance, a refined, repolished, and improved GT5. What people need to get out of their system is that yes, a ground-breaking GT6 with revolutionary physics, epic graphics, dead-on environments, great sounds, all premium cars and launched on the PS4 would be fantastic, that we've all been asking for a much improved GT5 over and over and over and over again. Well.... What are you all complaining about? They are releasing what we've all been whining for for nearly three years - a game that GT5 should have been. So what's the problem? Go spend $60 on a what's basically GT5.5, have fun, enjoy a greatly improved game, and patiently wait what will most likely be a seriously epic GT7 on the PS4. The self-entitlement is absolutely astonishing. I have read from dozens of people that they are going to boycott both PD and Sony just because the game of their dreams is still a few years off, and releasing GT6 as it has been revealed is an insult to their gaming royalness, c'mon. I don't see a single person complaining that GTA:V is being released on PS3, yet the anticipation for that game is ridiculous. All I'm saying is calm down, have faith GT7 - albeit a few years off - will be epic, and chalk GT6 up as a final massive refinement of GT5 and go spend $60 to have endless hours of fun.
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I agree with the car list gripe.
I still wonder how GT can sell 70 million copies, how GT5 sell 10 + million, and yet, there are still so many important (premium) manufacturers missing. Can money be an issue?: Koenigsegg, Holden, Cadillac, Saleen, RUF, De Tomaso, Pontiac, Chrysler, etc. It boggles my mind.
I can also support the claim that GT has lost its identity, or better yet, over-emphasizes it (if that makes sense). GT feels like it's trying too hard to replicate the real world, while forgetting what makes video games fun.
I want realistic physics, but at the same time, I want to be reminded that it's just a game where I can slap on racing stripes or paint the car orange, yellow and black and make awesome designs.
I'd like to feel like I own the car rather than simply understanding how its driving physics might feel.
I still wonder how GT can sell 70 million copies, how GT5 sell 10 + million, and yet, there are still so many important (premium) manufacturers missing. Can money be an issue?: Koenigsegg, Holden, Cadillac, Saleen, RUF, De Tomaso, Pontiac, Chrysler, etc. It boggles my mind.
I can also support the claim that GT has lost its identity, or better yet, over-emphasizes it (if that makes sense). GT feels like it's trying too hard to replicate the real world, while forgetting what makes video games fun.
I want realistic physics, but at the same time, I want to be reminded that it's just a game where I can slap on racing stripes or paint the car orange, yellow and black and make awesome designs.
I'd like to feel like I own the car rather than simply understanding how its driving physics might feel.
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I agree with a lot of what Earth is posting, but he's being really melodramatic and that's causing people to not take him seriously.
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Awww Earth.
I agree with him, actually... every. single. word...
I will spend a lot of time analyzing the game reviews when it comes out... just to see if this time really covers what it promises... based on that, I will buy it...
As for this 1st impression, it's a no-buy for me...
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That's the saddest part, most people here refuse to listen or they just can't see it, in the end that's what hurts the franchise the most, the people who continuously buy crappy products regardless. GT is the next COD. These franchises are too big for their own good, c'mon Forza and T10, it's your chance to shine and finally get the throne you deserve, your hard earned throne.
T10 already got there in my opinion but it's not fair they are not getting the credit they deserve, this is a COD vs BTF situation.
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In my opinion, Forza got that crown with Forza 5... PD lost the title on the very 1st day GT5 came to the world... It's a good, yet mediocre product... 👎
Not sure if this has all been said because I'm far too lazy to read all the whining this thread was created for
But, Don't forget we have Gamescon and E3 especially, where they still have to bring some major announcements.
Maybe it will be released on both PS3 and PS4 platforms, makes sense. My theory is that the new 'compact game engine' was made so it can quickly be ported over to PS4. It was said that GT6 will be spanning across multiple platforms like PC, tablets and mobile, which was just what the PS4 was built for. Maybe we will get the Prologue on PS3 and full game on PS4? It sounds unlikely and all, but it's a good speculation to tease your mind with.
As for sound, standard cars and crash physics being unmentioned, maybe they're saving those for E3 and Gamescon.
.. and yes, I like the word 'maybe' :3
But, Don't forget we have Gamescon and E3 especially, where they still have to bring some major announcements.
Maybe it will be released on both PS3 and PS4 platforms, makes sense. My theory is that the new 'compact game engine' was made so it can quickly be ported over to PS4. It was said that GT6 will be spanning across multiple platforms like PC, tablets and mobile, which was just what the PS4 was built for. Maybe we will get the Prologue on PS3 and full game on PS4? It sounds unlikely and all, but it's a good speculation to tease your mind with.
As for sound, standard cars and crash physics being unmentioned, maybe they're saving those for E3 and Gamescon.
.. and yes, I like the word 'maybe' :3
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Hate on GT5 all you want coming from a guy who has probably logged in more hours on gt1 than any one on this forum * i got gt1 as a birthday present after it came out and never got a ps2 until 2008 the same year I also got my first ps3 , i played gt1 every day since October of 98.." Its a freaking amazing game , minus the crappy REALISTIC AI , want good AI it requires rubber banding..
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Or more like those things matter more to some people than others?Seems to me that everything PD does wrong is what matters most to some people.Which leads me to say, sucks to be them
.Its been posted, over and over.Doesnt seem like it does it ? lolNot sure if this has all been said because I'm far too lazy to read all the whining this thread was created for
But, Don't forget we have Gamescon and E3 especially, where they still have to bring some major announcements.
Even with this little tiny bit of news people find a way to complain.But eh this is the thread for it.
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If Forza was multi-platform I would never touch anything made by PD again, not really an Xbox fan that's all, thankfully Driveclub and Project Cars are already on track to blow the GT series out of the water in every aspect.
