The GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread
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- Orléans, ON
- Spiderman_Geek
I just came in here to yell.
ENOUGH WITH THE WHINING ABOUT THE SRF OPTION BEING OPEN IN SEASONALS (OR EVEN BEING AN OPTION IN THE GAME AT ALL)!!!
Christ almighty, it's all I read in every second thread I go into.
It's there, deal with it. Don't like it? Don't friggin' use it! Fffuuuuuu.
..okay. Much better. Carry on.
ENOUGH WITH THE WHINING ABOUT THE SRF OPTION BEING OPEN IN SEASONALS (OR EVEN BEING AN OPTION IN THE GAME AT ALL)!!!
Christ almighty, it's all I read in every second thread I go into.
It's there, deal with it. Don't like it? Don't friggin' use it! Fffuuuuuu.
..okay. Much better. Carry on.
JEMcG
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- 639
- Glasgow
Well the thing is that I paid 40 quid then when I tried to take it back the superstore said they don't accept returns. Then when I took it to trade it they said they would give me 15 quid. I tried to sell it for 30 on ebay and even put it for sale on my PSN comment for sale at 30.
Plus the fact that every one of my friends bought it as well so if I went back to 5 I would have to make a whole new set of trustworthy racers which only took me 2 and a half years or more. And the servers close soon on 5.
But I reiterate, racing at the ring with the 9.0 crew rules. All of them just basically played til the licence that lets you race online then gave up on the offline game so they don't know how bad it really is.
The new physics feel great, now if only it didn't run like an overheating 2006 imac and had more online quirks I wouldn't even be on this site.
If my previous ranting has put 1 person off buying this junk I would be happy with that.
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- Canada
I've played the game for a good amount now and there are some problems that I (like many) would like addressed:
AI - I mean, come on PD. GT6 has the least ambitious AI racers ever. I've played Midnight Club LA, NFS Shift, TDU2, NFSU2, NFS Carbon, Cars the Game, and a whole flock of other racing games, and honestly, GT6's AI is right down there. They never deviate from their own lines, and even slow down to let you win. What the hey? Let me race against the likes of someone like Gan-san from Best Motoring.
Drivetrain modelling - Needs work. Gearboxes for example don't behave the same way their real life counterparts would. There is also some questionable torque steer (though absent on DS3s, I found on the G27 wheel). Front wheel drives though, definitely need some help. No hints of lift-off oversteer. Oh, and clutch modelling, really needs work. Using the H-shifter on wheels is a much harder task than it should be.
Tires - Not in the sense of their modelling, but more in terms of what tires stock cars should be equipped with. I shouldn't have to test each tire grade to see which one can pull the most realistic numbers on the cars.
Sounds - I'll give PD the benefit of the doubt. I really hope it's improved in the future.
Wheels - Wheel users have very limited options for settings, and more so for G25/G27 owners. Added to that, the FFB needs major work. The wheel just doesn't give us enough feedback. As an example, on rFactor, decelerating the car, whereby the weight of the car shifts to the front, you can feel the steering wheel jolt in response to that. No such thing in GT6.
Damage - I don't care for visual damage, but mechanical damage is pathetic. No engine damage (e.g. inability to blow up engines), no transmission damage, no brake fade, no damage from burning the clutch. Yeah, pretty bad.
Water - No hydroplaning. Enough said.
Next are related to gameplay.
SRF - I understand the need to cater to the casual gamers, but at least give us the option to turn off SRF. It's really annoying since all Special Events and Licence Tests have them forced on. What the hey?
Career mode - While GT6's career mode might have qualified as such back in 1997, the fact is that it is very lacking when compared to its contemporaries. While GT Mode does a good job bringing a sense of familiarity to GT-fans, something new is needed. A career mode like that in Codie's F1 series is a good start.
Invalidated laps - It would make sense for this if there's a global leaderboard, but there just isn't. So why the need for it? At least let us turn it off.
Leaderboard - I played GT3 recently, and I realized that GT3 could hold up to 16 (I believe) different times. Added to that, you could delete an individual time. In GT6, you can only have 10, and if you delete one, you delete all.
Garage menus - While GT6's menu is way faster than GT5s, I still prefer GT5s. In GT5, you didn't have to sort the menu every single time. It was fixed. In GT6, it isn't. I also miss the sub-menu after you choose a car.
Rolling starts - I've yet to find a race in GT6 that has standing starts. Rolling starts suck in GT6, period. For one, the cars are way too spread out. Because of this, races feel like what people call "chase the rabbit." If starts were closer together, and if the AI was fixed (lol), then rolling starts would be a very welcome feature. As of now though, no.
Auto drive - For God's sake PD, let us drive through the pits on our own, and let us do the formation laps on our own as well. I want it to be like in rFactor, where we had to literally drive from the garage. No auto-drive as far as I know.
I still play the game though.
AI - I mean, come on PD. GT6 has the least ambitious AI racers ever. I've played Midnight Club LA, NFS Shift, TDU2, NFSU2, NFS Carbon, Cars the Game, and a whole flock of other racing games, and honestly, GT6's AI is right down there. They never deviate from their own lines, and even slow down to let you win. What the hey? Let me race against the likes of someone like Gan-san from Best Motoring.
Drivetrain modelling - Needs work. Gearboxes for example don't behave the same way their real life counterparts would. There is also some questionable torque steer (though absent on DS3s, I found on the G27 wheel). Front wheel drives though, definitely need some help. No hints of lift-off oversteer. Oh, and clutch modelling, really needs work. Using the H-shifter on wheels is a much harder task than it should be.
Tires - Not in the sense of their modelling, but more in terms of what tires stock cars should be equipped with. I shouldn't have to test each tire grade to see which one can pull the most realistic numbers on the cars.
Sounds - I'll give PD the benefit of the doubt. I really hope it's improved in the future.
Wheels - Wheel users have very limited options for settings, and more so for G25/G27 owners. Added to that, the FFB needs major work. The wheel just doesn't give us enough feedback. As an example, on rFactor, decelerating the car, whereby the weight of the car shifts to the front, you can feel the steering wheel jolt in response to that. No such thing in GT6.
Damage - I don't care for visual damage, but mechanical damage is pathetic. No engine damage (e.g. inability to blow up engines), no transmission damage, no brake fade, no damage from burning the clutch. Yeah, pretty bad.
Water - No hydroplaning. Enough said.
Next are related to gameplay.
SRF - I understand the need to cater to the casual gamers, but at least give us the option to turn off SRF. It's really annoying since all Special Events and Licence Tests have them forced on. What the hey?
Career mode - While GT6's career mode might have qualified as such back in 1997, the fact is that it is very lacking when compared to its contemporaries. While GT Mode does a good job bringing a sense of familiarity to GT-fans, something new is needed. A career mode like that in Codie's F1 series is a good start.
Invalidated laps - It would make sense for this if there's a global leaderboard, but there just isn't. So why the need for it? At least let us turn it off.
Leaderboard - I played GT3 recently, and I realized that GT3 could hold up to 16 (I believe) different times. Added to that, you could delete an individual time. In GT6, you can only have 10, and if you delete one, you delete all.
Garage menus - While GT6's menu is way faster than GT5s, I still prefer GT5s. In GT5, you didn't have to sort the menu every single time. It was fixed. In GT6, it isn't. I also miss the sub-menu after you choose a car.
Rolling starts - I've yet to find a race in GT6 that has standing starts. Rolling starts suck in GT6, period. For one, the cars are way too spread out. Because of this, races feel like what people call "chase the rabbit." If starts were closer together, and if the AI was fixed (lol), then rolling starts would be a very welcome feature. As of now though, no.
Auto drive - For God's sake PD, let us drive through the pits on our own, and let us do the formation laps on our own as well. I want it to be like in rFactor, where we had to literally drive from the garage. No auto-drive as far as I know.
I still play the game though.
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JEMcG
(Banned)
- 639
- Glasgow
I think they will, at least I hope they will. I know not all people play the game the same way, as in some people won't even play online and if they do it won't be exactly the same as me. But I urge you and other people to try and master the ring. It sounds overly sentimental but it's the dogs testicles. I'm offline practising trying to perfect my cars for when I'm next online. It's so competitive and satisfying.
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- UK
- phil_75
I'll make sure i stock up on rotten eggs and tomatoes to throw at the screen
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- UK
- phil_75
SRF user speaks up!
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- Co. Down.
I was OK. with the standards in GT5, glad to have them included, so I was very happy with the standards n GT6, the whole game looks great. But I purchased a Lotus Elise for the 'ib One Make race' and was shocked by its hexagonical wheel arches, the worst I have seen, it seemed more offensive due to the improved lighting and adaptive tessellation making the rest of the body at first glance look good, then your eyes are drawn to the Flintstones wheel arches.
- 158
- Miami
I don't have too much to whine about, it's just the sounds. I can't stand the sounds. How can an American V8 sound like a Prius when it should roar like a lion? Kind of pathetic, but I know you guys have heard this a thousand times so I'm not gonna whine anymore about that.
I think what 1241Penguin said is very true, and the ending too:
-Sonny
I think what 1241Penguin said is very true, and the ending too:
-Sonny
- 329
- Orléans, ON
- Spiderman_Geek
Quite the contrary. I just don't see what the big deal is either way, but It's also not my life's mission to even get into the top 500 of Leaderboard, but when you're anywhere near that caliber of a "driver", how much of an edge can SRF really give the other guy? I don't know, just seems trivial to me.
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- Leicester,England
I think MS chucked a mountain of money to secure Top Gear, I feel where Forza and Turn 10 are concerned they talk the talk but don't walk the walk, saying stuff like ' its more about the love of cars ' etc that has been GT's mission statement from the start. If that were true of Forza why do the replays always suck. To me Forza is a jack of all trades and a master of none, compared to GT its an Arcade Sim ( I bet Jeremy Clarkson is playing Gran Turismo )
- 2,913
- UK
- phil_75
I'm not bothered if they have the option for SRF either.
But i am bothered that they are not on seperate leaderboards!
The leaderboards and friends ghosts/lines are there because PD has intended it to be a competitive time trial.
Any competitiveness has gone when others can use an aid that gives them seconds per lap advantage.
Yes, i can use it too but i don't want to, shouldn't have to and much prefer using no aids.
What's the point in getting better at the game when someone with a lot less skill could match or beat your lap time.?
I really enjoyed the seasonals but now they are a "Get gold and forget about it" race now. ie: very boring.
Just a seperate leaderboard would instantly fix it.
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- GregOr1971
Well Phil ,you can always add me on PSN. I'm not using any aid except ABS sometimes
I was surprised too when I first noticed that "Top times" are done with nanny aid.Kinda defeats purpose of being better driver , instead it is just be fastest with any means necessary. If that was done (srf) because of casuals then at least times with srf on etc... should be accounted as minimum time to make gold > ie. gold is 2:25 , you do it with nanny aid in 2:20 , no prob, but leaderboard should put you behind those that made it without aid in 2:24:999
Simple solution that would made everyone try to be better without aid.In the end of the day it is not gamebreaking thing to me because most of folks I know dont use anything exc.ABS and as long I can gold, I don't really care if someone can do it 5 sec better with aid. I have my good time.
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- Orléans, ON
- Spiderman_Geek
But then, where does it
I dunno, whoever's not at the "top spot" is always going to find something to complain about as to why "they" are not better than that person.
"Well... It's not fair! He was born on a Tuesday... In California... During a snow storm. He clearly has an advantage! I demand a seperate leaderboard!"
But if they did that, it wouldn't stop. Players would start demanding seperate leaderboards for DS3 user, and ASM users, and TC 1, and TC 2, and so on and so forth.
I dunno, whoever's not at the "top spot" is always going to find something to complain about as to why "they" are not better than that person.
"Well... It's not fair! He was born on a Tuesday... In California... During a snow storm. He clearly has an advantage! I demand a seperate leaderboard!"
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- phil_75
Hi mate, yeah i will add you but i was the same, i didn't even realise that you could use SRF on Seasonals now until lately.Well Phil ,you can always add me on PSN. I'm not using any aid except ABS sometimes
I was surprised too when I first noticed that "Top times" are done with nanny aid.Kinda defeats purpose of being better driver , instead it is just be fastest with any means necessary. If that was done (srf) because of casuals then at least times with srf on etc... should be accounted as minimum time to make gold > ie. gold is 2:25 , you do it with nanny aid in 2:20 , no prob, but leaderboard should put you behind those that made it without aid in 2:24:999
I wondered why i was so far off the S2000 at Matterhorn times and then i saw on here about SRF! 🤬
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- UK
- phil_75
Only SRF gives you an advantage, all the others actually make you slower!
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- Lives in Sweden
- NemoNiente
👎
:censored:Yesterday I was happily racing the Ascari Seasonal, had worked really hard at getting a good gold time, and I got it. So I exit to save my best lap time. The game informs me it found an UPDATE and would I want to down load it? Yes. It does, installs and then when I try to save it tells me saving my best lap-time failed... ok, so I quit game and log back in, but no my best lap time has been lost!!! WHY?Because P:censored
has decided that updating the game while players are online, and in the middle of racing is an excellent, splendid and genious idea...NOT!!!!!What are they frigging thinking???🤬
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- NemoNiente
Let me put it this way: If it had not been for the 'nanny aids' I would not be a better driver today than I was when I played GT3. The implementation of customizing the controller and the 'nanny aids' made it possible for me to LEARN how to drive a race car in this game. I love the fact that in Novice to Super Class I have been forced to use anything but RS, which I HAD to use In GT3 to make it round a circuit at all, let alone win. Would I beat you in a time trial if i turned all the aids on? I doubt it. A really bad driver is helped to drive better by the aids, but a really good driver is hindered - but they do not help or hinder so much that they alter the actual quality of the driver.I was surprised too when I first noticed that "Top times" are done with nanny aid.Kinda defeats purpose of being better driver , instead it is just be fastest with any means necessary. If that was done (srf) because of casuals then at least times with srf on etc... should be accounted as minimum time to make gold > ie. gold is 2:25 , you do it with nanny aid in 2:20 , no prob, but leaderboard should put you behind those that made it without aid in 2:24:999
In the end of the day it is not gamebreaking thing to me because most of folks I know dont use anything exc.ABS and as long I can gold, I don't really care if someone can do it 5 sec better with aid. I have my good time.
Exactly. I just recently turned off AS, SRF and dialed down TC to 1 - I use a regular controller (stick) - it only slowed me a couple of seconds from a lap-time of 1:30:094 to 1:32:5xx on the Deep Forest Seasonal in the Sirocco. So I went from a gold to a silver time - but the gold time is within reach. I just cannot drive as wildly as I used to.
mister dog
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- misterdog7
Well naming the bad replays isn't a very strong argument against T10's love for cars, you should check this out instead my good man:I think MS chucked a mountain of money to secure Top Gear, I feel where Forza and Turn 10 are concerned they talk the talk but don't walk the walk, saying stuff like ' its more about the love of cars ' etc that has been GT's mission statement from the start. If that were true of Forza why do the replays always suck. To me Forza is a jack of all trades and a master of none, compared to GT its an Arcade Sim ( I bet Jeremy Clarkson is playing Gran Turismo )
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/january-dlc.296333/page-5#post-9215365
VolkswagenX
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Big problem with the reviews here. Red many reviews that explained all the things wrong with GT, but still give it an 8/10 score. I don't think Kaz reads the reviews. He sees 8/10 and thinks he did a good job and starts adding stars...
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- lebretonbros
The last Forza I played was 2 (used to co-own a 360 with my brother, then moved out, he kept 360 and I took PS3). At that time, I think it's fair to say Forza was definitely more arcadey. However I've seen plenty of multi-platform players (some of which play PC sims too) that say, as of Forza 4 Gran Turismo can no longer be regarded as the better simulator. From reading many opinions and trying to be as objective as possible, it seems each has its strengths and weaknesses in their handling models.I think MS chucked a mountain of money to secure Top Gear, I feel where Forza and Turn 10 are concerned they talk the talk but don't walk the walk, saying stuff like ' its more about the love of cars ' etc that has been GT's mission statement from the start. If that were true of Forza why do the replays always suck. To me Forza is a jack of all trades and a master of none, compared to GT its an Arcade Sim ( I bet Jeremy Clarkson is playing Gran Turismo )
JEMcG
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- Glasgow
Have to say I've never used aids for more that about 1% of the whole series. Even when I went through my LMP phase. Was also in an F1 championship with aids banned. In that F1 game I would use traction control in the wet when racing the AI because the AI always have traction control because they are a computer!
The first part of your post is absolutely correct. MS chucked a mountain. He's still in a coma. The rest of your post is nonsense.I think MS chucked a mountain of money to secure Top Gear, I feel where Forza and Turn 10 are concerned they talk the talk but don't walk the walk, saying stuff like ' its more about the love of cars ' etc that has been GT's mission statement from the start. If that were true of Forza why do the replays always suck. To me Forza is a jack of all trades and a master of none, compared to GT its an Arcade Sim ( I bet Jeremy Clarkson is playing Gran Turismo )
- 941
- England
- T1M670
- T1M670
Why is my Kart slower than everyone else's? What the hell is with that. I find karting no fun on this game.
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- Belo Horizonte
Right now, if someone asked me which game should they get between Forza 5 and GT6 (and disconsidering the cost of each, respectively), I'd suggest them to take Forza 5. And that's coming from a PS fanboy.
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I am not sure whether I am ready to form an opinion yet. Granted, paying $60 for what I have so far is most definitely not worth it. PD needs to make sure ALL DLC is free for the first year to make up for that. Asking anyone to pay extra for what they have given us so far is wrong and I can only hope it would end in a lawsuit. I have been playing since GT 1 and they have to do a lot of work in the next year if they want to keep loyal racers like me and many of you. If not, I will most definitely not buy a PS 4 or GT 7. Your turn PD!
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- fredyellowone
I want to thank Kaz. Yeah, really.
Because of GT6, which is so bland and boring, I decided to buy Rocksmith.
Yep, Rocksmith.
I'm about to fully learn "I can't get no satisfaction" from the Stones.
A bad for a good, as they say.
Because of GT6, which is so bland and boring, I decided to buy Rocksmith.
Yep, Rocksmith.
I'm about to fully learn "I can't get no satisfaction" from the Stones.
A bad for a good, as they say.
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- channel islands
- lebretonbros
Bought that last year on PC but unfortunately I had issues with latency. Tried all the recommended tweaks but couldn't get rid of it. Mind you, I've been playing guitar for years (rhythm mostly) so wasn't too disappointed.
Just to remain on topic, I've only just discovered Forza 5 doesn't have Nordschleife. For those of you that did buy GT6, at least you got Nordschleife. Just pray GT7 gets it!
