The GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread

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Stumps_GTI
Brodie, not jumping all over you here, so please don't take this personally...
While it may indicate a "great advancement for the GT series", it is hardly a great advancement on GT5.
Far from it, as you have already heard and seen what has been written on here so far. :(
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I understand where you're coming from. Whenever I get the newest installment, I would probably agree that it's not much of a leap from gt5, but I think I will be able to enjoy it for what it is. I suppose a $60 dollar DLC package which isn't unheard of these days. Plus I have been following the updates and they are keeping up with them this time. I'm interested to see the cool things that have been discussed reveal themselves.
 
kollosson
Question, why are you guys on this site, this is GT Planet right ? ok you hate GT6 but you know let it go, why stay on here and keep chewing it, go join a Forza site and have a coke and a smile.....
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I'm only going to say this once and I'm going to say it quite clearly.

If you continue to try and push members out simply because they don't agree with you in regard to GT then the one leaving will be you.

Owning, playing or even liking GT are not pre-requisites of membership of this site, a site that also incorporated its sister site Forza Planet. So as such not only are you attempting to play mini-mod (and the staff find that to be a rather membership limiting activity) but you are also a long way wide of the mark.

Now a reminder to you all, the AUP is quite clear that personal attacks are not permitted, so argue the point, don't attack the person, failure to do so will see you receiving infractions.
 
MeanElf
Yep, it's been said and explained a few thousand times already - it was an important car to the tuner crowd in Japan during the 90's and so all models have come to be in the game, same with the RX-7s and Skylines et al.

Try some of those other cars, they all feel great with the new suspension and physics - plus you'll have more cars available to compete with them. I think you'll enjoy these cars if you do, and you'll realise that PD haven't been lazy after all, quite the opposite if you go off and have an explore around the game and its huge garage.
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The RX-7s and especially the Miatas aren't the best example of arguing PD's commitment, because they are one of the brightest beacons of laziness in the entire game (and they get continually brighter the more games they appear in, since they also were a sign of such lack of care in GT5, and GTPSP before that). What else is the reason behind taking 11 cars, most of which are already basically sticker and wheel packages of each other, and multiplying it by 3 with zero regard to whether any of those "new" cars actually existed (and they didn't)?

GT2 did a good job of representing the various Miata (and Skyline and RX-7 and 3000GT and Altezza and etc.) submodels and their impact on 90s tuning culture. GT6 does a good job of number padding.
 
Every time I start up GT6, I sense my tourette syndrome acting up.

@*%#@#! n%^$%! I&*^&#$#@ @@$#! %^#$#!

They should replace the current warning they have on starting GT6 from "seizure warning" to "Tourette warning".

Its all downhill from here for GT. Talk about taking something good and totally 🤬 it up.

It's time someone starts a new driving sim and fill the void in PS4.

Sigh!

While GT5 was Joy,

GT6 = IRRITATING! IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!


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cpgmm
Every time I start up GT6, I sense my tourette syndrome acting up.

@*%#@#! n%^$%! I&*^&#$#@ @@$#! %^#$#!

They should replace the current warning they have on starting GT6 from "seizure warning" to "Tourette warning".

Its all downhill from here for GT. Talk about taking something good and totally 🤬 it up.

It's time someone starts a new driving sim and fill the void in PS4.

Sigh!

While GT5 was Joy,

GT6 = IRRITATING! IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!IRRITATING!


Edited by staff - Do not bypass the swear filter. Either use the 🤬 smilie or let the forum software fully edit it out.
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What, GT6 is worse than GT5 because you can't seem to unlock the S level races? I'm guessing that's what you are going on about due your post on another thread which has remained unanswered...

Tornado
The RX-7s and especially the Miatas aren't the best example of arguing PD's commitment, because they are one of the brightest beacons of laziness in the entire game (and they get continually brighter the more games they appear in, since they also were a sign of such lack of care in GT5, and GTPSP before that). What else is the reason behind taking 11 cars, most of which are already basically sticker and wheel packages of each other, and multiplying it by 3 with zero regard to whether any of those "new" cars actually existed (and they didn't)?
GT2 did a good job of representing the various Miata (and Skyline and RX-7 and 3000GT and Altezza and etc.) submodels and their impact on 90s tuning culture. GT6 does a good job of number padding.
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I have absolutely no idea as to whether the other models existed or not - seems odd though - I was just explaining to the poster why it was so.
 
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First let me start with my feelings - I had these often while playing the game:

"So boring"

"The AI so slow!"

"The AI just totally rammed me again"

"The AI just totally rammed me again and I'm off the track:censored::banghead:🤬:banghead:"

"I am forcing myself to get all the stars - oh gawd.. I choose bore fest championship N.9 - let's get over this quick"

Obviously I get some positive feelings from the game too but let's stay on topic :P

Finished the thing yesterday and because I took much slower cars than AI in 550pp and 600pp championships the AI cars rammed me in the straights 15-20 times :banghead: - so I ended the game "experiencing the AI" :lol:

OK - fine you have a faster car in the straight + ULTRA GT STYLE DRAFT allows you to catch up - not complaining about draft either (which is ridiculous) but why oh why if there is space on the right or left they choose to instead bump me ? SO DUMB!

They are really pedantic about car models - but why the same level of professionalism isn't required for all the other aspects of the game ? What is it ? Caropedia ?

"Nope this AI is CLEARLY not good enough - we at PD will work till we get it right!"

Nope - it's terrible and they are fine with it. The guy responsible for AI should be replaced - he did nothing since GT4.

Also sounds - they did almost nothing and simulated few samples to be used for several different cars.

"We are working on it" - imho NO they DO NOT worked on it for SO LONG. You do not "work on it" for YEARS without any form of improvement.

They did almost ZERO work there to cut costs. I simply don't believe them. It does not take SO MUCH time to record a car sound nor to come up with a method you like.

People - we're talking YEARS here not days, not months - FREAKING YEARS!

Ok so let's imagine them "working on sound" - I mean in PD office.

The sound guy had 3 freaking years after GT5 was out. So after the game is out he does what for 3 years ?

Wake up, go to office think about engine sound - rinse and repeat for 3 years straight ? You want to tell me that this person or group of persons did exactly that for 3 or more years without ANY real progression ?

No - they simply DECIDED to not spend money there. Same for AI and "making it accessible" - NO it's just easier and less expensive to NOT WORK on those aspects.

Career reeks of being putted together in a hurry and it don't uses all GT6 assets!!! Show me another game that does that!!! Its unbelievable!!

I mean

Nascar - no dedicated championship - just usual drive here and there, done. Extra perk - dumb AI makes it infuriating.

Rally - many rally cars but no dedicated championship - make it like a WRC game!! No point to point! Extra perk - can't see 🤬 because of AI cars rising dust in front of you - again brilliant idea. 👍

Formula GT - never used in the game - what we are suppose to do with that car? Ah...time trials..

No qualify, no practice no standing starts - because "let's party like it's 1999"

GT6 is not even robust online - as of today and probably forever it is a time trial game with lots of tracks and cars.

Did anyone at PD even played the 🤬 game AT ALL ??? Next time there is an interview I want the sound guy, the AI guy and the game-play guy to be publicly FIRED!!!!

Come to think of it and seeing as we don't see ANY CHANGES AT ALL in some parts of the game I think those people are there from the GT1 and Kaz is too soft to let them go - could be the case. :rolleyes:

In the end - the most frustrating part is that GT6 could be so incredible with proper AI, engine sounds and modern career mode that feels more like racing.

Such a shame.

Zero hope for GT7. I think the issues will be carried over - they simply see GT like that - "lots of cars, lots of tracks - we're done here"

Some people think - oh well GT6 is 🤬🤬 but GT7 will be surely the 8th wonder of the world.

It wont.

EPIC RANT MODE DISENGAGED
 
TurismoBad
EPIC RANT MODE ENGAGED

First let me start with my feelings - I had these often while playing the game:

"So boring"

"The AI so slow!"

"The AI just totally rammed me again"

"The AI just totally rammed me again and I'm off the track:censored::banghead:🤬:banghead:"

"I am forcing myself to get all the stars - oh gawd.. I choose bore fest championship N.9 - let's get over this quick"

Obviously I get some positive feelings from the game too but let's stay on topic :P

Finished the thing yesterday and because I took much slower cars than AI in 550pp and 600pp championships the AI cars rammed me in the straights 15-20 times :banghead: - so I ended the game "experiencing the AI" :lol:

OK - fine you have a faster car in the straight + ULTRA GT STYLE DRAFT allows you to catch up - not complaining about draft either (which is ridiculous) but why oh why if there is space on the right or left they choose to instead bump me ? SO DUMB!

They are really pedantic about car models - but why the same level of professionalism isn't required for all the other aspects of the game ? What is it ? Caropedia ?

"Nope this AI is CLEARLY not good enough - we at PD will work till we get it right!"

Nope - it's terrible and they are fine with it. The guy responsible for AI should be replaced - he did nothing since GT4.

Also sounds - they did almost nothing and simulated few samples to be used for several different cars.

"We are working on it" - imho NO they DO NOT worked on it for SO LONG. You do not "work on it" for YEARS without any form of improvement.

They did almost ZERO work there to cut costs. I simply don't believe them. It does not take SO MUCH time to record a car sound nor to come up with a method you like.

People - we're talking YEARS here not days, not months - FREAKING YEARS!

Ok so let's imagine them "working on sound" - I mean in PD office.

The sound guy had 3 freaking years after GT5 was out. So after the game is out he does what for 3 years ?

Wake up, go to office think about engine sound - rinse and repeat for 3 years straight ? You want to tell me that this person or group of persons did exactly that for 3 or more years without ANY real progression ?

No - they simply DECIDED to not spend money there. Same for AI and "making it accessible" - NO it's just easier and less expensive to NOT WORK on those aspects.

Career reeks of being putted together in a hurry and it don't uses all GT6 assets!!! Show me another game that does that!!! Its unbelievable!!

I mean

Nascar - no dedicated championship - just usual drive here and there, done. Extra perk - dumb AI makes it infuriating.

Rally - many rally cars but no dedicated championship - make it like a WRC game!! No point to point! Extra perk - can't see 🤬 because of AI cars rising dust in front of you - again brilliant idea. 👍

Formula GT - never used in the game - what we are suppose to do with that car? Ah...time trials..

No qualify, no practice no standing starts - because "let's party like it's 1999"

GT6 is not even robust online - as of today and probably forever it is a time trial game with lots of tracks and cars.

Did anyone at PD even played the 🤬 game AT ALL ??? Next time there is an interview I want the sound guy, the AI guy and the game-play guy to be publicly FIRED!!!!

Come to think of it and seeing as we don't see ANY CHANGES AT ALL in some parts of the game I think those people are there from the GT1 and Kaz is too soft to let them go - could be the case. :rolleyes:

In the end - the most frustrating part is that GT6 could be so incredible with proper AI, engine sounds and modern career mode that feels more like racing.

Such a shame.

Zero hope for GT7. I think the issues will be carried over - they simply see GT like that - "lots of cars, lots of tracks - we're done here"

Some people think - oh well GT6 is 🤬🤬 but GT7 will be surely the 8th wonder of the world.

It wont.

EPIC RANT MODE DISENGAGED
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YEAH!! That's more likely! This is one epic post!
 
I'm rather disappointed with how the NSX race cars handle in GT6, most notably at lower speeds. In GT5 I could drive those things like a dream, but in GT6 all they wanna do is spin out, or oversteer when I let go of the throttle.
 
Rights and wrongs, you be the judge of that.

MAIN MENU
- GT 5 - everything in one page. And i mean everything a game should have - nice menu, comunity, collectables, online, ucd, ocd, dealership, test track, test drive, etc whatever you think of, it's there....
- GT 6 - some oversized boring crap with less than average POI.

COMUNITY

- GT 5 - place where you can chat, exchange, trade, whatever comes to your mind...
- GT 6 - NONE... (What patch? I don't care, i bought full game, and i want full game)

COLLECTABLES

- GT 5 - Museum, not much, but they show us that they care...
- GT 6 - NONE...

SESONAL EVENTS

- GT 5 - nice, challenging, sometimes very hard seasonals, very enjoyable and unforgetable races...
- GT 6 - Some LAP PENALTY CRAP...(can't everybody afford driving wheel, you know)

LICENSES

- GT 5 - nice step forward from previous games, they are here, for hardcore players, but for us casual players, we have a choice... nice touch...
- GT 6 - No license, no race....

GRAPHICS

- GT 5 - nice looking graphics, almost perfect, especialy when you buy a new car, OMG on big screen TV cars looks absolutely magnificent...i always love to buy a new car..
- GT 6 - WTF??? It's supposed to look and feel better??? And did you buy some new car? This is just to much...can't stand it..booooring..

B-SPEC

- GT 5 - Oh, did i enjoy that...5 star job for that, Kaz...
- GT 6 - Erm, in future patch? Didn't i just spend BIG money for the complete game?

COURSE MAKER

- GT 5 - Well, when you buy a game and actually pay for it, you expect a full game, which we get,
- GT 6 - and not some unfinished demo of a "so called" game?? Really, Kaz...

MICRO TRANSACTIONS

- GT 5 - don't know it, don't want it, don't need it, don't care...
- GT 6 - **** YOU!!!!!!! I work for my money... (and you should too)

PRIZE CARS

- GT 5 - Ah, good old times, when you actually enjoy racing, and get rewarded for it...
- GT 6 - Prize cars?

GARAGE

- GT 5 - All in one place, you bought it you know where it is...
- GT 6 - Stockyard? Garage limit? Why? Why change something that works just right...

Need more???
 
oxidonis2008
Rights and wrongs, you be the judge of that.

MAIN MENU
- GT 5 - everything in one page. And i mean everything a game should have - nice menu, comunity, collectables, online, ucd, ocd, dealership, test track, test drive, etc whatever you think of, it's there....
- GT 6 - some oversized boring crap with less than average POI.

COMUNITY

- GT 5 - place where you can chat, exchange, trade, whatever comes to your mind...
- GT 6 - NONE... (What patch? I don't care, i bought full game, and i want full game)

COLLECTABLES

- GT 5 - Museum, not much, but they show us that they care...
- GT 6 - NONE...

SESONAL EVENTS

- GT 5 - nice, challenging, sometimes very hard seasonals, very enjoyable and unforgetable races...
- GT 6 - Some LAP PENALTY CRAP...(can't everybody afford driving wheel, you know)

LICENSES

- GT 5 - nice step forward from previous games, they are here, for hardcore players, but for us casual players, we have a choice... nice touch...
- GT 6 - No license, no race....

GRAPHICS

- GT 5 - nice looking graphics, almost perfect, especialy when you buy a new car, OMG on big screen TV cars looks absolutely magnificent...i always love to buy a new car..
- GT 6 - WTF??? It's supposed to look and feel better??? And did you buy some new car? This is just to much...can't stand it..booooring..

B-SPEC

- GT 5 - Oh, did i enjoy that...5 star job for that, Kaz...
- GT 6 - Erm, in future patch? Didn't i just spend BIG money for the complete game?

COURSE MAKER

- GT 5 - Well, when you buy a game and actually pay for it, you expect a full game, which we get,
- GT 6 - and not some unfinished demo of a "so called" game?? Really, Kaz...

MICRO TRANSACTIONS

- GT 5 - don't know it, don't want it, don't need it, don't care...
- GT 6 - **** YOU!!!!!!! I work for my money... (and you should too)

PRIZE CARS

- GT 5 - Ah, good old times, when you actually enjoy racing, and get rewarded for it...
- GT 6 - Prize cars?

GARAGE

- GT 5 - All in one place, you bought it you know where it is...
- GT 6 - Stockyard? Garage limit? Why? Why change something that works just right...

Need more???
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Makes you wonder how there are lots of people here claiming GT6 is a better game than GT5.
 
Not really whining or crying but have we heard anything about these vision GT cars? At the rate we're going (one car every two months) it's going to take 3 years to get through them all :lol: I'm wondering if this whole Vision GT thing is going to kind of piddle out and we won't end up seeing half the cars on that list.
 
CeeJay
Not really whining or crying but have we heard anything about these vision GT cars? At the rate we're going (one car every two months) it's going to take 3 years to get through them all :lol: I'm wondering if this whole Vision GT thing is going to kind of piddle out and we won't end up seeing half the cars on that list.
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Maybe it's just going to be a really long-term thing? They supported GT5 right up to the announcement of GT6 remember...
 
TURBO KITS ARE STILL NOT FIXED FOR THE HSV-010 GT 15th ANNIVERSARY EDITION '11!!!!!!

STILL ONLY CARRY LOW AND MID RPM RANGE TURBO KITS AND WILL STILL REVERT BACK TO LOW RPM WHEN WE EXIT THE MENU!!!!!

(Note: ver. 1.04)
 
Jayson619
TURBO KITS ARE STILL NOT FIXED FOR THE HSV-010 GT 15th ANNIVERSARY EDITION '11!!!!!!

STILL ONLY CARRY LOW AND MID RPM RANGE TURBO KITS AND WILL STILL REVERT BACK TO LOW RPM WHEN WE EXIT THE MENU!!!!!

(Note: ver. 1.04)
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lol

Don't use the turbos then... last time I checked Super GT didn't have them :dopey:
 
MeanElf
Yep, it's been said and explained a few thousand times already - it was an important car to the tuner crowd in Japan during the 90's and so all models have come to be in the game, same with the RX-7s and Skylines et al.

Try some of those other cars, they all feel great with the new suspension and physics - plus you'll have more cars available to compete with them. I think you'll enjoy these cars if you do, and you'll realise that PD haven't been lazy after all, quite the opposite if you go off and have an explore around the game and its huge garage.
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However all models of RX-7 are now NOT in the game!.
Yes its an important and popular car for tuners, even the series 1 RX-7 which appeared in GT2 as the RX-7 GT turbo '83 - but for some bizarre reason they've omitted it ever since, it certainly belongs in the game though.
 
I wouldn't normally say something like this but....

I think PD have totally SOLD OUT!

Most of the content they are adding with updates is stuff they'd make money from the advertising with.

Great there is a new update 1.04. Whats the main focus of it???? That Mercedes Vision GT thing! Which I have honestly not driven once. I like the seasonal time trials though, and now there's one for the VGT - great advertising for Merc. but its not improving the game at all for a fan of the series.
 
Adamaw11
I wouldn't normally say something like this but....

I think PD have totally SOLD OUT!

Most of the content they are adding with updates is stuff they'd make money from the advertising with.

Great there is a new update 1.04. Whats the main focus of it???? That Mercedes Vision GT thing! Which I have honestly not driven once. I like the seasonal time trials though, and now there's one for the VGT - great advertising for Merc. but its not improving the game at all for a fan of the series.
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The Vision GT is a part of GT6 which brings us concepts and broadens the game. True, it's great advertising for Mercedes-Benz and will be for the others when they come, and that's one of the reasons why they got involved with this idea in the first place, though I don't see that as being a bad thing. Rather than PD 'selling out' I think the game is providing us with cars that no one else has.

I can see that might be a problem if you don't feel inclined to drive them, but the game is also made for all kinds of people, some of whom will definitely enjoy having these additions.

EDIT: I can't really comment on your reply to my previous post, as unfortunately I have no expertise in that area. Like I said though, I was explaining the rationale to another poster, in case they hadn't heard of it.

MasamuneDate
Makes you wonder how there are lots of people here claiming GT6 is a better game than GT5.
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Because it's a matter of opinion that was expressed, often highly subjective, therefore not fact...
 
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MeanElf
The Vision GT is a part of GT6 which brings us concepts and broadens the game. True, it's great advertising for Mercedes-Benz and will be for the others when they come, and that's one of the reasons why they got involved with this idea in the first place, though I don't see that as being a bad thing. Rather than PD 'selling out' I think the game is providing us with cars that no one else has.

I can see that might be a problem if you don't feel inclined to drive them, but the game is also made for all kinds of people, some of whom will definitely enjoy having these additions.

EDIT: I can't really comment on your reply to my previous post, as unfortunately I have no expertise in that area. Like I said though, I was explaining the rationale to another poster, in case they hadn't heard of it.


Because it's a matter of opinion that was expressed, often highly subjective, therefore not fact...
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Let's see if Gran Turismo will survive long with the way things are being done. Let's leave it's fate to time, and see if it thrives or it falls.
 
MasamuneDate
Makes you wonder how there are lots of people here claiming GT6 is a better game than GT5.
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Because his list is biased and one-sided. What about things that people hated in GT5 that are gone in GT6 like the UCD and level system?
 
Booted up PS3 today and got a nice gift, 1.04. I wasn't expecting gigantic changes, but I was hoping for something nice. Went right to the Red Bull Challenge because there is nothing better than racing at 250 mph with a car that can handle it. Started on the 2014 Standard. I cannot complete this series no matter what I do. The AI act like they were escaped convicts trying to get as much brain on their cars as there is surface area.

I've done most of the standard career, and coped with the murderous AI that acted like they were on a slot car track most of the time. But, with these high speed and high reward cars they have pushed many of my buttons. They break waaaaaay to early for these cars. And, yay, grid starts, but, in the first few corners there's so much bumping and spinning I find myself lost often. When I overtake, even on a strait I'll find myself being pit-maneuvered. Now, I know that I am nowhere near the fastest racer on :gtplanet:, but I at least know what I'm doing for the most part. These AI are tearing this game apart. They are what I race against half the time (the other half being the clock). I think i join the group of people that have no faith in GT6 (or even GT7 in 20 or so years :lol:).
 
lazywolfe
It was obviously, obviously, just his opinion after an epic rant. He didn't need to add "by the way, I can't actually see into the future."
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But @TurismoBad is right, isn't he? GT7 by no means will be "the 8th wonder of the world". It could be a good game, a great game, or even complete garbage, nothing more.
 
ildd
No. If your referring to hyper cars, I think those are boring and hope they never get in to GT.
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Personally I'd rather they go the other way. More cars from the 50's-70's. Having vintage cars and tracks is actually trending and modern
 
kollosson
Yes Burnout had damage, was it totally realistic? but graphically that game was no match for GT and I would rather have more realistic graphics, the damage is there in GT and in my opinion its enough. Can't believe we are comparing Burnout to GT, I played Burnout and enjoyed it but really?
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I never said or compared it to GT in any way/shape or form i merely was talking about the damage model in burnout.
 
Sparky's list for fixing GT and shutting everybody up forever and ever after:

1. Add the frickin E30 and HD MK IV Supra already, it will sove 30% of your problems.

2. Fire your two man A.I. team and get better guys, they're useless.

3. Thanks to your new A.I that is so smart it is now secretly plotting humanity's downfall, you can now design proper races, do it please.

4. Either redesign the license test system completely, or get rid of it in favor of something else.

5. Expand upon the damage system, I want to spontaneously combust when I get into my 458 like I would in real life.

6. Improve the engine sound engine (Holy Redundancy Batman), although you guys are most likely working on it or something. Pay extra attention to this one.

7. Get rid of all the PS2 level of quality cars for Gen IV, you have enough HD cars PD, with more of them obviously coming.

8. Hire mountain samurai ninjas to destroy EA's headquarters, therefore securing Porsche and making everything right with the universe.

9. Add more tracks, your track list is already fantastic, but it is never enough and we still lack SSR11 and Seattle. Make it so.

10. More unorthodox stuff, as long as you keep a well balanced focus on everything else.

11. Tie B-spec and A-spec together, while also expanding the number of all the events to surpass GT4.

*List will be expanded in future updates - Polyphony Digital
 
Oh, ok, Burnout did have a decent model but still not completely realistic but good yes. I would much rather have awesome graphics than ultra realistic damage because you can't have both, at least not on this generation.
 

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