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The GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread
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Yup, that is a pretty professional and elaborated test and review from a track and a car they have never driven, and even I doubt they will had the required skills to push that car to the extents necessary to know what title recreates the Viper more accurately, just guesstimates based on its usual Forza preferences and its good T10 relationship. They word should not be taken as a fact except by fans desperate to prove that its game is better.
Can't wait the day ISR will review this tool.
Sadly I'm sure will never happen.
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Being good at sim drivers does not make them less biased towards a game or turns them into a real test drivers with the required car and track experience to state facts on a car that they never had sitting and drove to the limit. They can throw just generic guesstimates about how should be the feel and handling given the car specs, not different than any other opinion from a forum user with a similar lack of professional experience but good at playing sims.
Did you also agree with this?
I don't know other games, but if that proves something to you his first time with GT6 was nothing to write about. Even with ABS at 1.
Did you also agree with this?
I don't know other games, but if that proves something to you his first time with GT6 was nothing to write about. Even with ABS at 1.
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You know what blows a hole in your argument (imagine that)? The fact that they're just about the most easily recognized iRacing supporters out there.
So, even if there was a sliver of truth to your statement it wouldn't really amount to much considerng, again, they practically worship iRacing. So if there's any bias, it would be toward iRacing.
So, even if there was a sliver of truth to your statement it wouldn't really amount to much considerng, again, they practically worship iRacing. So if there's any bias, it would be toward iRacing.
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iRacing in pc and Forza in consoles.
I thought that was well known. They are firstly PC players and very biased towards iracing (probably are paying most of the bills and sim hardware) but on another layer they also do reviews of popular console sims. T10 just give them more facilities (to what point? I don't know) and that is noted every time ISR speaks about Forza.
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Depends. Is the GPS box that you need to use to actually make the feature work out yet? I seem to recall it being out about now.
If so, then all that needs to happen is someone spots them a flight to Japan and loans them the car so that they can actually run a lap or two on one of the three tracks that actually support the feature. No problem.
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Yes, so biased that they even said that Grid Autosport was a better game than both GT and Forza, also who cares what their bias is?, is Forza not superior to GT? it is and not even based on accuracy of a specific car, based on general physics. FM4 was already superior to GT5 and probably still is to GT6 but I don't know because I don't have GT6.
You don't have to be an expert to see where GT is lacking.
You don't have to be an expert to see where GT is lacking.
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I remember that review, and in the interests of 100% accuracy this is what Darin said (I already quoted this in the Grid Autosport thread)
To be clear, he's not talking about the physics specifically, but just the overall game experience.
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It is not unfair and i wish people would stop paroting this, These concepts are specically made for gt6 i.e a video game, A video game in 2014, 2014 is a year in which cockpits should not be absent from driving games and especially not "real driving simulators", If PD told them not to bother or didnt specify that they must include cockpits then that too just shows how little PD really care about the quality of their product, There is no excuse at all for the gt vision cars to not have cockpits, Unless of course you want to use incompetence as an excuse then thats the only excuse acceptable
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In Soviet Russia, you pay Sony to speak positively about Gran Turismo!
Thanks, thanks, I'll be here all evening.
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Let me guess; The update on the 18th will be sponsored by Nissan and will involve a Hot Lap seasonal event. 
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Dude!? Burnout, hellooooooo?No please, here's your coat
Anyway. I'm starting to get bored with the game, and driving games of this type in general.
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Already did everything I wanted to do with it. Cant be bothered to buy all the DLC either.Dude!? Burnout, hellooooooo?
I want driving simulators to try something new, something grander in scale than better A.I. and better sounds.
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The only one I can think of is being able to create stuff in a racing game, such as creating tracks.
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Still limited to set courses in a landscape, just prettier and more real-ish. Project Cars still looks amazing though.
But I don't just want to see all sorts of varied cars on all sorts of varied tracks all over again, with A.I. racing that's either stupid or too perfect. I want something that truly feels grand in scale, like the Crew but a bit more serious and more pertinent to the car enthusiast's taste, passion and knowledge of the greatest invention since underwear. Forza Horizon and the Crew come closest to me, but still it's something already done.
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I added two more things to that post. Both sort of time wasters, but I'm really looking forward to trying Spintires...looks like a lot of fun on Youtube.
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Forza Horizon 2? Open World, no more invisible walls.
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Perhaps it may not contain invisible walls, creating the illusion of unlimited exploration. But you are, however still limited by boundaries.Forza Horizon 2? Open World, no more invisible walls.
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Well especially not being able to throw your off a cliff or into a lake. Those ones will be blocked.
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All I want is for racing game developers to really set aside the focus on pure racing, and focus on other aspects of the car enthusiast's interest. I'm not implying that they get rid of racing entirely, it's an essential part of the automobile's history.
Sorry about my ramblings guise
Sorry about my ramblings guise
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All I want is for racing game developers to really set aside the focus on pure racing, and focus on other aspects of the car enthusiast's interest. I'm not implying that they get rid of racing entirely, it's an essential part of the automobile's history.
Sorry about my ramblings guise
Have you played Automation?
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I'm assuming my opinion over the facts that they are reviewing these games based mainly on their generic guessing and personal tastes, instead of with any real experience on the cars to back up their claims. No different than any other sim gamer giving their opinion without the required real experience. The difference is just that ISR runs a website, have sponsors and put videos on yt.
I don't know how anyone can blindly trust their reality-check comparisons with that background. Is not something clear that you can see at miles like mario kart vs iRacing, you need to know very well the feel and nuances of the real car to understand what reality is more accurate simulated between two comparable sims.
No. I'm just saying that their opinion can't be taken as a fact. What professional experience I need except some common sense to see how ISR works and elaborates its facts?
Create a site, make it enought popular to catch the attention of the sponsors, make money with it, get invited at events, create relationships, receive free hardware and software and maybe your situation would be comparable.
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First things first, it has to be said ISR is the site and youtube channel dedicated to covering sim racing. If there's anyone qualified in the whole industry to compare racing games/sims it has to be them, because they are the only ones that have been doing so at such level for many years and that have experience across pretty much every single realistic racing game ever released, on consoles and on the PC. The GT series is not the only thing out there.
Now lets embed the latest video they made about GT6, uploaded just yesterday.
Would you say there's any misleading or elaborated fact in that video, or any unfair criticism to the update or to GT6 in general there? I wouldn't, because they are right. As much as people here liked the update it has to be said that the amount of content was clearly lacking for how much it was hyped (3 cars no tracks, no mclaren no interlagos); plus they talked about the announced updates in general and they are right in that there haven't been any of what was announced. Those are facts.
Also. what do you mean about how ISR "works"? Please be more concrete.
In this aspect the only thing that might be weird is that they are sponsored by iRacing, so it's doable to think they are biased therefore will trash other games. However, if you take a look at the iRacing subforum here in GTP it's very clear that people try that game and never go back to the GT series, as the former is superior quality-wise and racing is just better.
edit: Maybe another issue could be that they prefer the Forza series over GT. In this matter I suggest you to try Forza5 and compare it with GT6: it's clear that Forza5 is better in every single aspect you can imagine, including physics, car and track detail and whatnot aspect PD is so proud about, plus fixing all the issues GT6 has and more. Please watch the Nurburgring video I previously linked and tell us it isn't a fact that the Forza5 version is miles better. The only part in which that game was criticized was in amount of content, which they are now fixing with non-delayed huge patches that bring the game up to PS4 generation quality instead of using PS2 assets, but quality-wise it's the clear superior in everything. In other words, they like Forza5 better because.....well.....it's better.
As blunt as this might sound, they have that broader picture you probably do not. Quality-wise the GT series is not even the top5 anymore and in amount of "premium" content Forza4 still is in the lead.
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