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GTPlanet Exit Poll - Which Presidential Ticket Did You Vote For?

  • Trump/Pence

    Votes: 16 27.1%
  • Biden/Harris

    Votes: 20 33.9%
  • Jorgensen/Cohen

    Votes: 7 11.9%
  • Hawkins/Walker

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • La Riva/Freeman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • De La Fuente/Richardson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Blankenship/Mohr

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Carroll/Patel

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Simmons/Roze

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Charles/Wallace

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 15 25.4%

  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
Georgia needs to finish within about 25k votes to be a re-count. Right now Trump has an 83k lead, but with the remaining votes showing that Biden is slightly favored to win, Georgia looks like a highly probable recount.
 
Sara Gideon just conceded the Maine senate race to Susan Collins which is weird because there are still a ton of votes to count across Maine.

That means Peters in MI is our last hope to make the senate 50/50 and he's only up by...1,020 votes. Over 5,000,000 total so far and the difference is 1,020.

Edit: Earlier, CNN mentioned Maine's ranked choice voting method, and that is Susan Collins doesn't reach 50% total then it triggers the ranked choice thing and does...something. Gideon "conceded" the race with Collins at 49.8%. Anybody know what the heck is going on here? Also there are still tens of thousands of votes to count across the state.
 
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I don't get why the House is often so different to the White House.

One of the things in US politics I genuinely still can't understand.

I think you were poking at something here that none of the responses picked up on. One would think that the Presidential Election would generally reflect the makeup of the House. It's the Electoral College that's mucking it up. Let's imagine a state with 21 Congressional districts. If 10 of those vote Party A, and 11 of them vote Party B, it would result in both parties picking up a fairly equal number of seats in the House. But all 21 Electoral votes (actually 23, because of the two votes that correspond to the Senate members) would go to Party B. If something similar happens in a couple dozen states, you get a House makeup that looks very different from the Presidential Electoral map.

If the rest of the states followed Nebraska and Maine in splitting their votes up by district results, you'd start to see more correlation between the House and the Presidency.
 
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Sara Gideon just conceded the Maine senate race to Susan Collins which is weird because there are still a ton of votes to count across Maine.

That means Peters in MI is our last hope to make the senate 50/50 and he's only up by...1,020 votes. Over 5,000,000 total so far and the difference is 1,020.

Collins has a 40,000 vote lead with over 200,000 votes still to be counted, not sure why Gideon has thrown the towel in so early.
 
I don't get why the House is often so different to the White House.

One of the things in US politics I genuinely still can't understand.
Gerrymandering.
Packing and Cracking. Pack those likely to vote for your opponent into one large legislative district to reduce their power in others, or crack areas populated with those likely to vote for your opponent into multiple districts to reduce their overall power.

[navigation system voice] "Redistricting. Redistricting. Redistricting."
 
Sara Gideon just conceded the Maine senate race to Susan Collins which is weird because there are still a ton of votes to count across Maine.

That means Peters in MI is our last hope to make the senate 50/50 and he's only up by...1,020 votes. Over 5,000,000 total so far and the difference is 1,020.

Conceding isn't official. The counting in Maine will proceed, and it's still possible that Gideon will come out the winner. Her having made a concession speech doesn't change that.
 
Sara Gideon just conceded the Maine senate race to Susan Collins which is weird because there are still a ton of votes to count across Maine.

That means Peters in MI is our last hope to make the senate 50/50 and he's only up by...1,020 votes. Over 5,000,000 total so far and the difference is 1,020.

Edit: Earlier, CNN mentioned Maine's ranked choice voting method, and that is Susan Collins doesn't reach 50% total then it triggers the ranked choice thing and does...something. Gideon "conceded" the race with Collins at 49.8%. Anybody know what the heck is going on here? Also there are still tens of thousands of votes to count across the state.

Yeah, but Portland is basically done counting and that's where the bulk of Gideons supporters are.

I don't think we're going to know who won the race until tomorrow at the earliest.
 
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Yeah, but Portland is basically done counting and that's where the bulk of Gideons supporters are.

I don't think we're going to know who won the race until tomorrow at the earliest.
Yeah it's going to take time because all these media outlets are reporting different percentages. After Collins gets 50% it's over basically, but if she doesn't get 50% then the ranked choice triggers and dumps the 3rd place person and potentially gives Gideon a huge boost. NYT still has Collins at 49.7% vote (which just went down .1) with 77% reporting. Not sure where all these other outlets like AP are getting their 51% numbers but a lot of outlets have latched onto that and are reporting it.

There's still a tiny Antrim county in MI which hasn't reported anything at all. Come on people it ain't that hard, there's like 20,000 people in the whole county. So that's one county which will benefit Trump, but Flint, Detroit, and Kalamazoo will all boost Biden's lead by several thousand while Grand Rapids's urban precincts are also tightening the gap and benefitting Biden. @Joey D What are you even doing out there in Utah anyway

Edit: Oops, 23,580.
 
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The Donald Trump impersonator on The Howard Stern show was pretty funny this morning.

(in the Trump voice) "Stop counting, stop counting. Counting is for losers. Counting is for pencil necked geeks and guys that took accounting class in school that we used to be the crap out of. Stop counting". :lol:
 
Latest map, with 98% of the error reporting:

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There's still a tiny Antrim county in MI which hasn't reported anything at all. Come on people it ain't that hard, there's like 20,000 people in the whole county. So that's one county which will benefit Trump, but Flint, Detroit, and Kalamazoo will all boost Biden's lead by several thousand while Grand Rapids's urban precincts are also tightening the gap and benefitting Biden. @Joey D What are you even doing out there in Utah anyway

Apparently, with Antrim it's skewed heavily Biden and that's really weird for Northern Michigan so they're investigating. The population of that county is really small though, so at most Trump would get 5,000 more votes.

Kent County, where Grand Rapids is, will be a toss-up. The city itself is very liberal but just outside the city, it's probably the most evangelical conservative you can get.

As for what I'm doing in Utah? Even with the insane cost of living, I'm still making way more than I ever did back in Michigan. So I'm here because of money and the potential prospect of scoring an additional wife.
 
Maricopa County (Phoenix, AZ) will update results around 9 p.m. Eastern.

EDIT: Latest trend for Pennsylvania over the last 3 hours - 20% more votes reported, Biden increased 401,833 to Trump's 209,301.
 
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Trump: "Millions and millions of people voted for us tonight. And a very sad group of people is trying to disenfranchise that group of people, and we won’t stand for it"

Also Trump: Sues to stop legal votes from being counted.

Does Trump even know what 'disenfranchise' means??

He is literally demanding that several million voters be disenfranchised, but seems to think the 'disenfranchise' means that votes don't count if the other side get more votes... erm, no. That's not disenfranchising... that's called democracy.

Trump was absolutely right on one thing - this morning was an "embarrassment" to the nation... just not in the way he believes it was.
 
Apparently, with Antrim it's skewed heavily Biden and that's really weird for Northern Michigan so they're investigating. The population of that county is really small though, so at most Trump would get 5,000 more votes.
Now that's interesting!

https://www.freep.com/story/news/po...election-results-trump-biden-blue/6162541002/

NYT is currently still publishing senate results from Antrim County and they're showing Democrat Gary Peters up by 3,000 which is vital to his total, as he's currently down 13,000 statewide. If he loses then Republicans maintain their senate majority. That said, Wayne County still has about 200,000 votes to count, and a few thousand more in other counties.

@Joey D I haven't heard CNN mention Antrim County but I'll bet about $3.50 that Trump finds out about this "investigation" and/or the final results and latches onto it as evidence of fraud which is all that's needed to request a recount in Michigan. Oh crap...@Danoff there's your reason for a Michigan recount.

As for what I'm doing in Utah? Even with the insane cost of living, I'm still making way more than I ever did back in Michigan. So I'm here because of money and the potential prospect of scoring an additional wife.
Hell yeah brother! Let her know you'll support her if she opens her mind :lol:
 
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Trump: "Millions and millions of people voted for us tonight. And a very sad group of people is trying to disenfranchise that group of people, and we won’t stand for it"

Also Trump: Sues to stop legal votes from being counted.

Does Trump even know what 'disenfranchise' means??

He is literally demanding that several million voters be disenfranchised, but seems to think the 'disenfranchise' means that votes don't count if the other side get more votes... erm, no. That's not disenfranchising... that's called democracy.

Trump was absolutely right on one thing - this morning was an "embarrassment" to the nation... just not in the way he believes it was.
Also Trump: wants the votes in some states counted only if a Trump official is present. I wonder if they will pull the fire alarm to "accidentally" invalidate Biden votes due to a fire.
 
Does Trump even know what 'disenfranchise' means??
He doesn't care what it means. All he has to do is make his supporters think it means what he wants them to think it means, and boom, the dictionary and all logic go out the window. I don't remember if I posted it earlier, but this is basically 1930s Germany right now and I figure y'all Yurapeeins know a lot more about society then than we do over here. I don't know about you but I'm spooked.
 
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