The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread

GTPlanet Exit Poll - Which Presidential Ticket Did You Vote For?

  • Trump/Pence

    Votes: 16 27.1%
  • Biden/Harris

    Votes: 20 33.9%
  • Jorgensen/Cohen

    Votes: 7 11.9%
  • Hawkins/Walker

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • La Riva/Freeman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • De La Fuente/Richardson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Blankenship/Mohr

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Carroll/Patel

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Simmons/Roze

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Charles/Wallace

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 15 25.4%

  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
I have no idea what state you're talking about. But here in Colorado, everyone receives a mail-in ballot. Even people planning on voting in person. You don't have to request it, you just get it. And you can't vote twice with it. If you use it, you can't vote in person. If you vote in person, you can't use your mail-in.

Yeah I should've said so, sorry. We're in PA. So it all works the same, except we have to ask for ballots. The county was supposed to email me when they sent mine but they didn't... but they did at least notify me when they got it back and confirmed that I wouldn't be able to vote again.
 
Now he's bringing Michigan legislators to the White House to try and have them just put Republican electors in; after he called the people certifying the votes of the county Detroit was in to have them rescind their certification.

Stop the Steal.
 
I have no idea what state you're talking about. But here in Colorado, everyone receives a mail-in ballot. Even people planning on voting in person. You don't have to request it, you just get it. And you can't vote twice with it. If you use it, you can't vote in person. If you vote in person, you can't use your mail-in.

Yep. I still have my mail-in ballot because I voted in person.

We can joke all we want, but Trump is trying really really hard to nullify this election.
 
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Now he's bringing Michigan legislators to the White House to try and have them just put Republican electors in; after he called the people certifying the votes of the county Detroit was in to have them rescind their certification.
Yeah, I laughed when they asked to rescind and I believe the SOS told 'em tough titties, it's already done & there was a moment passed where they could have rescinded.

The fact both of them were called by a candidate & they apparently asked to rescind afterwards, has to be teetering on some kind of law breaking. That combined with Graham's bold decision to ask to have legal ballots thrown out, shows how much fraud Trump seems willing to commit for a man super concerned about it.
 
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The evil presence from The Fifth Element wasn't too pleased with Rudy's presser performance.

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Georgia finished their hand recount, Biden still wins Georgia. The (republican) Georgia SOS has been doing a tough job under death threats and calls for resignation. I mean try doing your job when people are threatening to kill you and telling you you need to quit. I'm glad it wasn't a democrat actually.

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd have latched on to the extra Trump votes they found, but I'm not. I fully believe in a recount you're going to come up with some things you missed. That's what it's for.
 
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I'm almost convinced now that Trump is going to do anything, legal or not, to try to stay in power. This is turning uglier and uglier. The court battles are just a setup for the real play - which is to turn over the elector selection to state legislatures and count on his supporters to threaten or actually carry out violence to enforce that outcome.
 
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I'm almost convinced now that Trump is going to do anything, legal or not, to try to stay in power. This is turning uglier and uglier.

Yeah, I'm waiting for the electoral vote and count. I also wouldn't put it behind quite a few other Republicans to be onboard with Trump's plan. The whole fraudulent voting show is just smoke and mirrors for his own schemes that he's playing out.
 
I'm almost convinced now that Trump is going to do anything, legal or not, to try to stay in power. This is turning uglier and uglier.

So far he is poking and prodding every possible angle. And yes, trying to get states to change the rules and just ignore their popular votes is insane. It appears he might try to tank the economy too. At least temporarily. It's going to be a wild ride from here to January.
 
So far he is poking and prodding every possible angle. And yes, trying to get states to change the rules and just ignore their popular votes is insane. It appears he might try to tank the economy too. At least temporarily. It's going to be a wild ride from here to January.
Well, he's already responsible for a quarter of a million deaths due to COVID, so what's another recession for his subjects?
 
Trump appointee on Trump lawsuit in Georgia had some fun things to say while dismissing the case:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/19/federal-judge-rejects-trump-allys-bid-block-election-certification-georgia-438563
At the conclusion of a three-hour virtual hearing, U.S. District Court Judge Steven Grimberg delivered a withering assessment of the suit that a prominent attorney, Lin Wood, filed to try to stop officials from finalizing a tally that has Trump trailing Biden by more than 12,000 votes.

Grimberg said it was clear that, as an individual voter, Wood lacked legal standing to mount the challenge to Georgia’s election procedures. But the judge — a former prosecutor whom Trump nominated last year — also emphasized that evidence of improprieties seemed limited to isolated cases and far short of what would be needed to justify a federal judge stepping in to alter the state’s election results.

“It would require halting the certification of results in a state election in which millions of people have voted,” the judge said. “It would interfere with an election after the voting was done.”

The judge also seemed to allude to the acrimonious atmosphere surrounding the election as a reason to be wary about interfering in the process as Wood requested.

“It harms the public interest in countless ways, particularly in the environment in which this election occurred,” Grimberg said. “To halt the certification at literally the 11th hour would breed confusion and potentially disenfranchisement that I find has no basis in fact or in law.”

Much of Wood’s suit complained about a consent decree, reached in March, that requires officials to try to contact a voter before disqualifying a mail-in ballot because of a signature that does not appear to match the one on file.

However, Russ Willard, a lawyer in the Georgia attorney general’s office, said there was no legitimate reason for Wood to come to court eight months later to object to that widely publicized deal.

“Plaintiff attempts to change the rules at the end of the game in order to alter the score,” Willard said

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"The whole world is watching".

Trump is doing his best to pull the entire United States down to his own despicable level.

I think he’s trying to be impeached again, since he realised he probably won’t get another chance at it. Perhaps he enjoyed the attention so much last time.
 
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/trump-indonesia-luhut-binsar-pandjaitan-intl-hnk/index.html

Trump held unannounced meeting with Indonesian minister in Oval Office
United States President Donald Trump met with Indonesia's Minister of Maritime Affairs and Investment at the White House on Tuesday, a meeting that was not on the President's public schedule and one for which the White House has not provided a readout.

A readout provided by the Indonesian government said that Minister Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan also met with Trump's advisers, Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, along with the CEO of the International Development Finance Corporation (DFC), Adam Boehler.


Now, I know what you're probably thinking. Me too. And you'd be correct, Indonesia does NOT have a formal extradition treaty with the United States. And just to be sure, I'm not SAYING that Trump and his family intend to flee to Indonesia in order to avoid potential legal woes, once he's out of office. What I am saying is that rats ALWAYS plan an escape route.
 
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I'm just surprised that on a whole, the Republican party are not distancing themselves from Trump at this point. Are they so desperate to stay in power that they'll happily let Trump drag them into the bowels of hell with him? Right now that's where he's heading and they're hanging on to his coat tails.
 
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I'm just surprised that on a whole, the Republican party are not distancing themselves from Trump at this point. Are they so desperate to stay in power that they'll happily let Trump drag them into the bowels of hell with him? Right now that's where he's heading and they're hanging on to his coat tails.
I’m guessing the majority of the GOP find this reprehensible. They know it’s all B.S. But they’re forced to go along with it because Trump now IS the Republican party. And the majority of what’s left of the Republican base supports Trump and Trumpism. If they go against him they’re going to lose the support of their own constituents, the people who elected them. Sure people such as incoming Congresswoman and Q-Anon conspiracy theorist, Marjorie Taylor Greene are true believers. But the rest of them are probably sweating bullets waiting to see which way the wind blows. And they are just hoping they aren’t eventually called out for the spineless, gutless, reprehensible people they are.
 
What I am saying is that rats ALWAYS plan an escape route.
For years I've slowly been fixing gaps in my boat house. This fall, I shot 4 of them to death with a pellet gun, and killed 4 more in traps. Haven't seen any recently.

If only Juan Peron was still alive.
Indeed. Perhaps his greatest service was to fund the European career of Juan Manuel Fangio.
 
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So let me see if I understand this correctly.

Finding new ballots in Georgia is good:

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But finding "new" ballots in Michigan is bad:

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Makes sense.

A redit user dug up historical numbers that are even more exaggerated for Detroit. It's apparently normal for that large a discrepancy to occur for a specific region.
https://detroitmi.gov/sites/detroit...cial_local_summary_report_w_group_details.pdf
https://detroitmi.gov/sites/detroitmi.localhost/files/2018-05/official-results-nov-8-2016.pdf
https://detroitmi.gov/webapp/election-results

Glascock county in GA went to Trump with a 80% margin. I don't know what the tallies look like but it would look something like 10% Biden 90% Trump. Wayne county as a whole went to biden with almost a 40% margin, but Detroit in particular appears to be bringing that number up compared to other parts of Wayne county.

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It amounts to "How did so many people in Detroit not vote for me?"
 
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Glascock county in GA went to Trump with a 80% margin. I don't know what the tallies look like but it would look something like 10% Biden 90% Trump. Wayne county as a whole went to biden with almost a 40% margin, but Detroit in particular appears to be bringing that number up compared to other parts of Wayne county.

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Last census Glascock only had around 3000 residents tops. I imagine anyone with a Biden sign in their front yard would probably stick out quite a bit.
 
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Wasn't it said he loses privileges as a world leader and becomes subject to the same rules as everyone else? Wonder if Vegas has odds on how fast he gets himself permanently banned off Twitter.
 
That was posted not too long ago by Twitter, Facebook and another one that as soon as Trumpy gets the boot, he loses his online privileges.

Wasn't it said he loses privileges as a world leader and becomes subject to the same rules as everyone else? Wonder if Vegas has odds on how fast he gets himself permanently banned off Twitter.

The faster he gets himself banned, the better. He can then move on to that newish app, Parler or whatever it's called and his supporters can move on to there, too. Twitter would be a better place.
 
Georgia Secretary of State to certify election for Biden

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/georgia-secretary-of-state-to-certify-election-for-biden

“Working as an engineer throughout my life, I live by the motto that numbers don’t lie,” Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said during a news conference at the state Capitol. “As secretary of state, I believe that the numbers that we have presented today are correct. The numbers reflect the verdict of the people, not a decision by the secretary of state’s office or of courts or of either campaign.”
 
Georgia Secretary of State to certify election for Biden

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/georgia-secretary-of-state-to-certify-election-for-biden

“Working as an engineer throughout my life, I live by the motto that numbers don’t lie,” Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said during a news conference at the state Capitol. “As secretary of state, I believe that the numbers that we have presented today are correct. The numbers reflect the verdict of the people, not a decision by the secretary of state’s office or of courts or of either campaign.”
He's a brave man after the death threats against him and his wife the GOP sent him.
 
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