The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread

GTPlanet Exit Poll - Which Presidential Ticket Did You Vote For?

  • Trump/Pence

    Votes: 16 27.1%
  • Biden/Harris

    Votes: 20 33.9%
  • Jorgensen/Cohen

    Votes: 7 11.9%
  • Hawkins/Walker

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • La Riva/Freeman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • De La Fuente/Richardson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Blankenship/Mohr

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Carroll/Patel

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Simmons/Roze

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Charles/Wallace

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 15 25.4%

  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
...go on, guess which party he belongs to.
Racist! That's like saying any time I see an old dirty minivan packed to the gills, or an old Ford Taurus dragging its rear end down the highway, I immediately know who's driving it.

"I bet they're Republicans"
 
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FDT by YG. Hands down.

Never forget first time I heard that song. Holiday to New York three years ago, on the subway going to get something to eat, some dudes come on with that song blaring out a boombox and they start breakdancing in the carriage :lol:
 
Trump's "gameplan" seems pretty clear at this point.

A. Continue repeating on twitter (where you're obviously not under oath) what he knows are baseless claims of fraud to keep the idea going, making as many people believe and parrot it as possible, energise his base.
B. Don't repeat those claims in actual courts of law because he knows they're false and he can't lie there. (They've done the opposite, admitting there were watchers, no sign of fraud, have never repeated the other claims like more voters than people)
C. Pretend those cases don't exist/aren't actually his and don't give any interviews/take questions where he'd have no answer for anyone mentioning A and B.
D. While all this is happening frantically find any way possible to actually steal the election. Seen evidence of this already.

He knows he has legitimately lost. He knows the claims he spouts online are false. If he and his administration weren't so hilariously bad at this stuff people might be worried.

EDIT: Oh don't forget the grifting as well, obviously. Taking his followers for everything he can.
 
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Never forget first time I heard that song. Holiday to New York three years ago, on the subway going to get something to eat, some dudes come on with that song blaring out a boombox and they start breakdancing in the carriage :lol:

Man I miss New York. I was there last year and was planning to be there around this time.... but 2020 happened. :lol:
 


The struggle is real.

Sad thing is, all these Trumpsucklers won't have their careers destroyed after this. They'll find some fringe company who will pay the bills. These people should go down in history as totally incompetent sycophants and with their names in public they'll be unemployable to a large portion of the economy.

If he and his administration weren't so hilariously bad at this stuff people might be worried.
I'm not so sure they're bad at it. Thusfar, over 73,000,000 people believe their drivel. They've radicalized 73 million people, every one of them living in an alternate reality where reason does not exist. If these fascist sympathizers wanted the government to crack down hard on anybody they'll be disappointed when the Union cracks down on the confederacy to eliminate it once and for all. William Tecumseh Sherman is rolling in his grave and his trigger finger is itching.

Biden's lead has now crested 5.8 million votes.
 
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I'm not so sure they're bad at it. Thusfar, over 73,000,000 people believe their drivel. They've radicalized 73 million people, every one of them living in an alternate reality where reason does not exist.

That part is certainly more than worrying, for sure. I just meant nobody is really worried this inept bunch will actually be able to pull off a coup.
 
That part is certainly more than worrying, for sure. I just meant nobody is really worried this inept bunch will actually be able to pull off a coup.

More like if they do it'll be because the system is just that broken rather than they're political masterminds.
 
Giuliani's newest lawsuit of "just say Trump won Pennsylvania" is an interesting bit of legal nuance.
Also sounds direct and to the point: "Announce Trump won the election like we think he did (and cannot prove) so he can serve the 2nd term he rightly deserves."
 
So where I work I'm probably the lone Democrat among about 20 people. In my immediate department it's me against 4 Republicans. In general they leave me alone and I leave them alone. One of them is a 20 something that absolutely cannot leave his phone alone. Whenever he's not doing his job he's looking at that phone. So he's right in the target range of all of this conservative crap with the conspiracy theories and that Trump really won the election.

This morning him and another one of the older Republicans were in the back and I hear the 20 something ask the other one, "did you see where Biden used Office of the President Elect?!?!", "There's no such thing he's made that **** up!!!!".

So I immediately knew I had heard that term used before. Just a quick Google fact check indeed turned up that while it's not an official title other President elects have used "Office of the President Elect" before. Including this guy.

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So instead of doing the same thing that I did, a little quick fact check of something he heard, no he angrily spouts off about how Biden has deliberately made something up. So this is how a lot of this conservative anger gets started. No fact checks of any kind, whoever said something has to be right because it fits their narrative.

It was all I could do to bite my tongue and not start a huge argument.
 
So where I work I'm probably the lone Democrat among about 20 people. In my immediate department it's me against 4 Republicans.

As an Australian this bit is slightly strange to me, I work with around 200 others and couldn't tell you how one of them voted.

While it's not a blanket rule, generally speaking Australians don't give a **** about others political leanings.
 
So where I work I'm probably the lone Democrat among about 20 people. In my immediate department it's me against 4 Republicans. In general they leave me alone and I leave them alone. One of them is a 20 something that absolutely cannot leave his phone alone. Whenever he's not doing his job he's looking at that phone. So he's right in the target range of all of this conservative crap with the conspiracy theories and that Trump really won the election.

This morning him and another one of the older Republicans were in the back and I hear the 20 something ask the other one, "did you see where Biden used Office of the President Elect?!?!", "There's no such thing he's made that **** up!!!!".

So I immediately knew I had heard that term used before. Just a quick Google fact check indeed turned up that while it's not an official title other President elects have used "Office of the President Elect" before. Including this guy.

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So instead of doing the same thing that I did, a little quick fact check of something he heard, no he angrily spouts off about how Biden has deliberately made something up. So this is how a lot of this conservative anger gets started. No fact checks of any kind, whoever said something has to be right because it fits their narrative.

It was all I could do to bite my tongue and not start a huge argument.
I understand you’re at work but I still would’ve corrected him. He’s so ignorant that he’s never heard the term “president elect” which has been used for like 200 something years to refer to the incoming president.
 
As an Australian this bit is slightly strange to me, I work with around 200 others and couldn't tell you how one of them voted.

While it's not a blanket rule, generally speaking Australians don't give a **** about others political leanings.

I think it’s largely the same in the UK with exceptions to social media. At work (when we were at our building before CV19) there are around 1000 people sometimes more. I wouldn’t have a clue about political bias for anyone.

Its only till they get on social media do they become keyboard warriors and spout off about politics, or they repost random videos or memes of a dubious political bias. Quite funny but sometimes they are so clueless they post one video of Candace Owens espousing her rhetoric and then a day later post up some left leaning video about they BLM movement.

Maybe I just don’t pay attention to them at work as I’m busy but it’s a weird thing.
 
B. Don't repeat those claims in actual courts of law because he knows they're false and he can't lie there.

Its not a lie if you truly believe it or his lawyers will spin a story about how he was "Mistaken"
 
As an Australian this bit is slightly strange to me, I work with around 200 others and couldn't tell you how one of them voted.

While it's not a blanket rule, generally speaking Australians don't give a **** about others political leanings.
I like this approach. Personally I think all politicians are stupid, spineless and corrupt but I try not to voice my opinions. I also value some semblance of a functioning government so I guess you can call me an enigma wrapped in a Twinkie.
 
So where I work I'm probably the lone Democrat among about 20 people. In my immediate department it's me against 4 Republicans. In general they leave me alone and I leave them alone. One of them is a 20 something that absolutely cannot leave his phone alone. Whenever he's not doing his job he's looking at that phone. So he's right in the target range of all of this conservative crap with the conspiracy theories and that Trump really won the election.

This morning him and another one of the older Republicans were in the back and I hear the 20 something ask the other one, "did you see where Biden used Office of the President Elect?!?!", "There's no such thing he's made that **** up!!!!".

So I immediately knew I had heard that term used before. Just a quick Google fact check indeed turned up that while it's not an official title other President elects have used "Office of the President Elect" before. Including this guy.

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So instead of doing the same thing that I did, a little quick fact check of something he heard, no he angrily spouts off about how Biden has deliberately made something up. So this is how a lot of this conservative anger gets started. No fact checks of any kind, whoever said something has to be right because it fits their narrative.

It was all I could do to bite my tongue and not start a huge argument.
Sweet home Alabama.
 
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I understand you’re at work but I still would’ve corrected him. He’s so ignorant that he’s never heard the term “president elect” which has been used for like 200 something years to refer to the incoming president.

It's the term Office of the President Elect he was thinking that Biden just made up.

Believe me I would have loved to corrected him but everything has been fairly decent over the last three years or so and I didn't want to stir a hornets nest and cause constant bickering. Now that hasn't always been the case. Up until 2017 my direct manager in this department certainly was going to let you know where he stood politically. There was no telling how many times from 2008 until 2016 I heard a racial slur used in the phrase ".....ain't my President". He also thought there should be a dead or alive bounty placed on illegal immigrants which is why he had such a high powered rifle, and he wasn't kidding. He was also extremely homophobic. If he isn't a member of Qanon now I'll be surprised.

Sweet home Alabama.

Which again is part of the problem and part of my theory of how at least southern conservatives got to their present state of extreme hate today.

I think that the election of Obama in 2008 triggered an immense hatred in southern conservatives. That's at least what I was hearing from a lot of them. As I said above, there is no telling how many times in those years that I heard the racial slur used in some sort of "that...ain't my President". I also heard derogatory words used about his wife and kids.

So 2012 comes around and he's re-elected. Now they're even more furious than before. The office of President is a man's job and more importantly it's a white man's job and that's the way it should always be, according to them. So Trump in 2016 comes in as their great white hope of keeping blacks and other "furiners" in line so they now give him worship status and he can do no wrong in their eyes.
 
Which again is part of the problem and part of my theory of how at least southern conservatives got to their present state of extreme hate today.

I think that the election of Obama in 2008 triggered an immense hatred in southern conservatives. That's at least what I was hearing from a lot of them. As I said above, there is no telling how many times in those years that I heard the racial slur used in some sort of "that...ain't my President". I also heard derogatory words used about his wife and kids.

So 2012 comes around and he's re-elected. Now they're even more furious than before. The office of President is a man's job and more importantly it's a white man's job and that's the way it should always be, according to them. So Trump in 2016 comes in as their great white hope of keeping blacks and other "furiners" in line so they now give him worship status and he can do no wrong in their eyes.
That reminds me. I remember last year in my AP government class, the teacher showed us statistics about what Alabamans and Mississippians believe about Obama not long before the 2008 election. 40% of them thought he was a Kenyan-born Muslim. Yikes.
 
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Believe me I would have loved to corrected him but everything has been fairly decent over the last three years or so and I didn't want to stir a hornets nest and cause constant bickering.

I'm guessing you made the right call. Correcting him would have resulted in a greater onslaught of nonsense. You got off easy by only hearing that made up complaint. There are more, and worse, with just as little basis in fact, right behind it.
 
That reminds me. I remember last year in my AP government class, the teacher showed us statistics about what Alabamans and Mississippians believe about Obama not long before the 2008 election. 40% of them thought he was a Kenyan-born Muslim. Yikes.

40% is probably low among southern conservatives. I would probably put it closer to 70%.
 
He also thought there should be a dead or alive bounty placed on illegal immigrants which is why he had such a high powered rifle, and he wasn't kidding.

While I'm a white man and have never been an illegal immigrant since the day I left my home country more than 14 years ago, anti-immigrant slogans always hit me. I had one funny story though. Back in my home country (Hungary) the anti-immigrant rhetoric is also very-very strong despite the fact that 99.9999% of Hungarians never ever in their life have seen one in person, let alone have them endangered in any way (like physically or taking away their jobs). Nevertheless, as this is a topic in the government communication no matter the actual topic, it's stuck in the people's head.

So, we were in our home town back in 2018 and were about to buy some flowers from an elderly lady. Our daughters were next to us talking to each other in English. The old lady noticed and asked about it. I told her that we live in the US, hence the girls speak more English than Hungarian. Next, she was asking whether there (in the US) are any immigrants, too. I said "Yes. Us." She hasn't asked anything more.
 
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