The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread

GTPlanet Exit Poll - Which Presidential Ticket Did You Vote For?

  • Trump/Pence

    Votes: 16 27.1%
  • Biden/Harris

    Votes: 20 33.9%
  • Jorgensen/Cohen

    Votes: 7 11.9%
  • Hawkins/Walker

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • La Riva/Freeman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • De La Fuente/Richardson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Blankenship/Mohr

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Carroll/Patel

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Simmons/Roze

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Charles/Wallace

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 15 25.4%

  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
Which again is part of the problem and part of my theory of how at least southern conservatives got to their present state of extreme hate today.

I think that the election of Obama in 2008 triggered an immense hatred in southern conservatives. That's at least what I was hearing from a lot of them. As I said above, there is no telling how many times in those years that I heard the racial slur used in some sort of "that...ain't my President". I also heard derogatory words used about his wife and kids.

So 2012 comes around and he's re-elected. Now they're even more furious than before. The office of President is a man's job and more importantly it's a white man's job and that's the way it should always be, according to them. So Trump in 2016 comes in as their great white hope of keeping blacks and other "furiners" in line so they now give him worship status and he can do no wrong in their eyes.

I heard this a lot in Texas too. And yes, 2012 levered up the rage in Texas. I knew people, close to me, that would just listen to talk radio literally all day long feeding their addiction to outrage.
 
This is the best argument for an "unlike" button that I've ever seen. @Jordan

Just being curious: is that some sort of archenemy thing? As a non-American and as someone who doesn't give **** about college sports I'm not sure whether I understand the situation :)
 
So where I work I'm probably the lone Democrat among about 20 people. In my immediate department it's me against 4 Republicans. In general they leave me alone and I leave them alone. One of them is a 20 something that absolutely cannot leave his phone alone. Whenever he's not doing his job he's looking at that phone. So he's right in the target range of all of this conservative crap with the conspiracy theories and that Trump really won the election.

This morning him and another one of the older Republicans were in the back and I hear the 20 something ask the other one, "did you see where Biden used Office of the President Elect?!?!", "There's no such thing he's made that **** up!!!!".

So I immediately knew I had heard that term used before. Just a quick Google fact check indeed turned up that while it's not an official title other President elects have used "Office of the President Elect" before. Including this guy.

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So instead of doing the same thing that I did, a little quick fact check of something he heard, no he angrily spouts off about how Biden has deliberately made something up. So this is how a lot of this conservative anger gets started. No fact checks of any kind, whoever said something has to be right because it fits their narrative.

It was all I could do to bite my tongue and not start a huge argument.

I haven't looked up whether such a thing as an "official" Office of the President Elect actually exists ... but the photo you posted looks to me like the front of the podium has been photoshopped on.
 
Just being curious: is that some sort of archenemy thing? As a non-American and as someone who doesn't give **** about college sports I'm not sure whether I understand the situation :)
College sports, primarily football, is serious business in the US.

When I was working at the dealership, there were clients who would literally choose their car’s colors based on their college’s.
 
Just being curious: is that some sort of archenemy thing? As a non-American and as someone who doesn't give **** about college sports I'm not sure whether I understand the situation :)
Michigan and Buckeyes have been going at it for quite some time now. I don't follow either team particularly closely but their proximity to one another surely has fostered some contention, and I gather there's been a yearly game between the two regardless of season standings for close to a century now.

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I haven't looked up whether such a thing as an "official" Office of the President Elect actually exists ... but the photo you posted looks to me like the front of the podium has been photoshopped on.


Whiny. Little. Bitch. Always has been and always will be.
 
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Just being curious: is that some sort of archenemy thing? As a non-American and as someone who doesn't give **** about college sports I'm not sure whether I understand the situation :)

It goes back to the Toledo War in 1835/36. Michigan and Ohio shouted at one another over the area around Toledo. Michigan claimed it was there as did Ohio. Eventually, the president stepped in and told them to behave. Ohio got what is now known as the Toledo Strip and Michigan got the Upper Peninsula. It worked out better for Michigan in the long run since the UP is rich in copper deposits and all Toledo is known for is having persistent construction on I-75. Since the two states could no longer shoot at one another, it shifted to a football game and to a less extent, a rivalry between the Detroit Tigers and Cleveland Indians in baseball.

If you look at it recently though, Michigan has been a bit of a dumpster fire of a football team and I don't want to talk about the Tigers since it hurts my soul.
 
It goes back to the Toledo War in 1835/36. Michigan and Ohio shouted at one another over the area around Toledo. Michigan claimed it was there as did Ohio. Eventually, the president stepped in and told them to behave. Ohio got what is now known as the Toledo Strip and Michigan got the Upper Peninsula. It worked out better for Michigan in the long run since the UP is rich in copper deposits and all Toledo is known for is having persistent construction on I-75. Since the two states could no longer shoot at one another, it shifted to a football game and to a less extent, a rivalry between the Detroit Tigers and Cleveland Indians in baseball.
Reading the bit about the Toledo War here feels like a bit of a joke, like fictional history concocted for...say...The Simpsons, and what follows only reinforces the idea, but I have enough knowledge of Andrew Jackson to know it's true.

Edit: Tree'd.

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UGA for life, we bleed red and black, go Dawgs!
And for my girl GA Tech Yellow Jackets, they bleed gold and black, the Ramblin' Wreck!
A house united, yet divided...
 
Just being curious: is that some sort of archenemy thing? As a non-American and as someone who doesn't give **** about college sports I'm not sure whether I understand the situation :)

It goes back to the Toledo War in 1835/36. Michigan and Ohio shouted at one another over the area around Toledo. Michigan claimed it was there as did Ohio. Eventually, the president stepped in and told them to behave. Ohio got what is now known as the Toledo Strip and Michigan got the Upper Peninsula. It worked out better for Michigan in the long run since the UP is rich in copper deposits and all Toledo is known for is having persistent construction on I-75. Since the two states could no longer shoot at one another, it shifted to a football game and to a less extent, a rivalry between the Detroit Tigers and Cleveland Indians in baseball.

If you look at it recently though, Michigan has been a bit of a dumpster fire of a football team and I don't want to talk about the Tigers since it hurts my soul.

Reading the bit about the Toledo War here feels like a bit of a joke, like fictional history concocted for...say...The Simpsons, and what follows only reinforces the idea, but I have enough knowledge of Andrew Jackson to know it's true.

Edit: Tree'd.

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The whole region also used to be a dense swamp around the Maumee River which made organized militia action basically impossible. To this day, Toledo exists as a buffer to filter out the riff-raff flowing down I-75, and the construction is to intentionally slow their progress and annoy them.

Also as you can can see from my signature, we wrote a song to air our distaste for the state, and in particular TTUN.

Edit: 1897 was the first game, 123 years strong.
 
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The Gulianni live press meeting kept going down, channel after channel.
Last one abruptly stopped and GONE, my Youtube blinked and there is ZERO info about this LIVE press conference (that was live on at least 4 YT channels from multiple feeds/angles)

It's because he was winning so bigly that MSM fake noos media and the deep state had to censor it.

In my case the blackout would be caused by my eyelids drooping over my eyeballs.

Not sitting through this but a couple of skips to the Sydney and Rudy portions appear to reveal that all they have are affidavits and sworn statements. Also Chavez used Dominion software to throw the Venezuelan election so Biden must be cheating.

Tree'd by @Famine

 
It goes back to the Toledo War in 1835/36. Michigan and Ohio shouted at one another over the area around Toledo. Michigan claimed it was there as did Ohio. Eventually, the president stepped in and told them to behave. Ohio got what is now known as the Toledo Strip and Michigan got the Upper Peninsula. It worked out better for Michigan in the long run since the UP is rich in copper deposits and all Toledo is known for is having persistent construction on I-75. Since the two states could no longer shoot at one another, it shifted to a football game and to a less extent, a rivalry between the Detroit Tigers and Cleveland Indians in baseball.

If you look at it recently though, Michigan has been a bit of a dumpster fire of a football team and I don't want to talk about the Tigers since it hurts my soul.
Can we talk about the Lions then, which technically are a handegg team only in name? :dopey:
 
Just being curious: is that some sort of archenemy thing? As a non-American and as someone who doesn't give **** about college sports I'm not sure whether I understand the situation :)

Oh yeah. Alabama/Auburn is probably right up there with Michigan/Ohio St. in terms intensity of the rivalry. One Alabama fan even went far enough to poison some trees on Auburn's campus after a loss. These were the iconic Toomer's Corner trees that Auburn students would toilet paper roll after a win.

https://www.si.com/college/2019/03/07/auburn-harvey-updyke-toomers-corner-oak-trees

College sports, primarily football, is serious business in the US.

When I was working at the dealership, there were clients who would literally choose their car’s colors based on their college’s.

I haven't seen it since I've been with Lexus but when we had the Dodge dealership we had a lot of people that would only buy vehicles, trucks especially, in either Alabama or Auburn colors.
 
We need Milla Jovovich.... or Elsa.

He's not looking for a multi-pass and/or trying to build a snowman...or maybe he is, what goes through the mind of Gulliani is a mystery to the modern man.
 
My parents just told me they had received ballots in the mail that they didn't request(our state doesn't send them to everyone). Apparently they came about a week before voting day. My mother is all worried and wishes they had kept them and taken them to the polls to turn them in and confirm that they didn't request them.

Of course this is evidence of fraud somehow. I tried to tell her that it was just an error and multiple votes wouldn't have counted and has nothing to do with anybody trying to steal the election but I doubt it got through. I'm sure the county would have appreciated having been told about it though(assuming the poll workers didn't just throw them out and ignore it), so they could find out what happened and fix it.
 
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My parents just told me they had received ballots in the mail that they didn't request(our state doesn't send them to everyone). Apparently they came about a week before voting day. My mother is all worried and wishes they had kept them and taken them to the polls to turn them in and confirm that they didn't request them.

Of course this is evidence of fraud somehow. I tried to tell her that it was just an error and multiple votes wouldn't have counted and has nothing to do with anybody trying to steal the election but I doubt it got through. I'm sure the county would have appreciated having been told about it though(assuming the poll workers didn't just throw them out and ignore it), so they could find out what happened and fix it.

I have no idea what state you're talking about. But here in Colorado, everyone receives a mail-in ballot. Even people planning on voting in person. You don't have to request it, you just get it. And you can't vote twice with it. If you use it, you can't vote in person. If you vote in person, you can't use your mail-in.
 
Now he's bringing Michigan legislators to the White House to try and have them just put Republican electors in; after he called the people certifying the votes of the county Detroit was in to have them rescind their certification.
 
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