The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread

[Eunos_Cosmo]

It's absolutely grounds for impeachment (it was one of many with which Johnon was charged) but, though Commander in Chief literally means one commands the military, the link between president and the military for the purposes of criminal proceedings may be too tenuous.

I don't believe dereliction is a legitimate cause of action for the DOJ.

Yeah probably not. I don't personally believe there was some sort of orchestrated plot to overthrow congress with the MAGA brigade. Most of them were not armed with anything substantial, and they weren't effectively coordinated - you don't purposefully send in middle aged bleach blonde Dallas real estate agents to overthrow a government. I think the rioters were just on a joyous LARP aimlessly trying to make a big display of MAGAness. Trump, I think, opportunistically watched from the sidelines with the attitude of "this is great, lets see what happens". I think he is absolutely guilty of doing nothing, but I don't think there's going to be evidence of a conspiracy to overthrow the government stemming from J6. Hopefully there is sufficient evidence of a federal crime (even if it's like mail fraud - they always get mail fraud!) related to the fake electors as that seems to be a pretty solid case of defrauding the United States.

 

[TexRex]

Yeah probably not. I don't personally believe there was some sort of orchestrated plot to overthrow congress with the MAGA brigade. Most of them were not armed with anything substantial, and they weren't effectively coordinated - you don't purposefully send in middle aged bleach blonde Dallas real estate agents to overthrow a government. I think the rioters were just on a joyous LARP aimlessly trying to make a big display of MAGAness. Trump, I think, opportunistically watched from the sidelines with the attitude of "this is great, lets see what happens". I think he is absolutely guilty of doing nothing, but I don't think there's going to be evidence of a conspiracy to overthrow the government stemming from J6. Hopefully there is sufficient evidence of a federal crime (even if it's like mail fraud - they always get mail fraud!) related to the fake electors as that seems to be a pretty solid case of defrauding the United States.

I'd hate to validate anything asserted by Sidney "dumber-than-a-bag-of-rocks" Powell, but incitement as a means to affect a delay in proceedings (a delay that was actually affected by the riot, though it was not as long as Powell suggested) so that other avenues to subvert those proceedings may be ventured seems absolutely plausible.

Certainly tools individually, those stupid Trumpers may have served as tools collectively as well.

 

[UKMikey]

How can someone have a reputation as a leaker? Twitler Truthler needs some better material.

Meanwhile on real Twitter Gym Jordan's Judiciary Committee account is in deep denial.

How can it be hearsay if she was in the room at the time? It's not even an actual trial but maybe the people involved could always deny her account under oath if they were that concerned about being defamed?

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

I hardly know who this person is...Chapter 1

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

How can someone have a reputation as a leaker? Twitler Truthler needs some better material.

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Meanwhile on real Twitter Gym Jordan's Judiciary Committee account is in deep denial.

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How can it be hearsay if she was in the room at the time? It's not even an actual trial but maybe the people involved could always deny her account under oath if they were that concerned about being defamed?

If her testimony is hearsay (and therefore invalid) than the concept of a witness isn't valid. Such ********.

 

[TexRex]

If her testimony is hearsay (and therefore invalid) than the concept of a witness isn't valid. Such ********.

Edit: Sweet! I love a Popehat lawsplainer.

 

[UKMikey]

 

[McLaren]

Somewhere in Mar-a-Lago, there’s a wall with fresh ketchup stains on it.

 

[TexRex]

CAUTION: Flying Hamberders

 

[Blitz24]

CAUTION: Flying Hamberders

 

[TexRex]

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

T-minus ____ until Trump switches to the "I got bad legal advice", throw the lawyers under the bus stage of his downfall.

 

[UKMikey]

 

[McLaren]

Why would you need 10,000 soldiers for an inauguration unless you knew something was going down? Seems like Trump is once again, telling on himself with that statement.

 

[Danoff]

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How many coup plans did this guy have?

 

[Blitz24]

Why would you need 10,000 soldiers for an inauguration unless you knew something was going down? Seems like Trump is once again, telling on himself with that statement.

Was that what he was saying? If he's referring to January 6th yes he's telling on himself. If he's referring to January 20th, well he doesn't get a say since he told on himself for January 6th.

 

[Famine]

How many coup plans did this guy have?

There was one where he was going to take the Declaration of Independence (because all GQPers think it's the Constitution) and flush it down a toilet.

 

[UKMikey]

There was one where he was going to take the Declaration of Independence (because all GQPers think it's the Constitution) and flush it down a toilet.

Ten or fifteen times?

 

[Liquid]

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Funny that the DC National Guard is the only National Guard under the direct authority of the President and the DC National Guard wasn't deployed.

 

[TexRex]

Seven Pa. lawyers involved in Trump’s legal fight to overturn the 2020 election are hit with ethics complaints

All of them, the filings said, lent their “law license and the legal profession’s integrity and power to an orchestrated effort to undermine our nation’s elections.”

www.inquirer.com

 

[TexRex]

 

[UKMikey]

So that's what they were standing by for. I guess we've gone beyond the "first they came for the pregnant women and the gay people" stage and moved onto the "kill Democrats in the street" stage.

Inb4 someone comes in to unilaterally declare the above reports "propaganda opinion pieces".

 

[TexRex]

Not Anthime Gionet!

 

[Joey D]

This is why it's important for people who are liberal to familiarize themselves with weapons, buy one they're comfortable with, and carry it. The Gravy Seal's Meal Team Six likely won't target anyone that can shoot back because despite having a hard-on for tactical gear, they're cowards. And if/when they decide to shoot, at least they'll have a chance to defend themselves.

They don't need AR-15s or whatever, but someone who knows how to handle a 9mm is going to be way more effective than some fatass from Texas waving an AR-15 while on the verge of heart failure.

Really, up until a few years ago, I didn't really feel it was necessary to carry on a daily basis, but I find myself carrying more and more. I don't want to look for a fight and I want to avoid it as much as possible, but if some Trumplican tries to threaten me for whatever asinine reason, I kind of want to fall back to the idea of FAFO, with them finding out.

It's sad that I need to think like this too because really I thought carrying was only to defend myself from thieves and brigands, but apparently, I need to add domestic terrorists to that list.

 

[TexRex]

Really, up until a few years ago, I didn't really feel it was necessary to carry on a daily basis, but I find myself carrying more and more. I don't want to look for a fight and I want to avoid it as much as possible, but if some Trumplican tries to threaten me for whatever asinine reason, I kind of want to fall back to the idea of FAFO, with them finding out.

It's sad that I need to think like this too because really I thought carrying was only to defend myself from thieves and brigands, but apparently, I need to add domestic terrorists to that list.

I'm in lock step with you here. The pandemic is what did it for me. Getting verbally accosted by anti-maskers and seeing others get physically accosted was my primary motivation. I've lived in some not great areas and didn't feel the need to be armed then, but it's different now. There were times recently that I felt naked because I didn't have a firearm on my person and I hate it.

 

[Jezza819]

This is why it's important for people who are liberal to familiarize themselves with weapons, buy one they're comfortable with, and carry it.

Nope. I've never even touched a gun in my 56 years of life and I'm not starting now. I don't care what happens. There's nothing that will ever make me own or even touch a gun. NOTHING.

 

[Populuxe]

Nope. I've never even touched a gun in my 56 years of life and I'm not starting now. I don't care what happens. There's nothing that will ever make me own or even touch a gun. NOTHING.

I don't fear the world enough to carry a gun. I never will.

 

[Hayden]

After staying for a week in a pretty dodgy part of LA, I can understand how having a gun could make a person feel a bit more comfortable. It was a huge eye opener that what Australia considers a rough neighbourhood, and what America does are two very different things.

Whether I’d actually get one if I lived there is a different question. I’m not a gun person and I’d probably just try to stay away from the unsafe bits rather than carrying a deadly weapon. That is obviously easier said than done however.

 

[Joey D]

Nope. I've never even touched a gun in my 56 years of life and I'm not starting now. I don't care what happens. There's nothing that will ever make me own or even touch a gun. NOTHING.

I don't fear the world enough to carry a gun. I never will.

I get that and I fully understand that a bunch of people feel this way, which I can respect because gun ownership isn't for everyone. However, I do have legitimate concerns about the direction the country is going and what will happen in 2024 if someone like Trump or DeSantis wins the presidency. It could just embolden fascist Republicans to think it's OK to start killing anyone who doesn't agree with them. I don't think we're on the verge of a civil war or anything like that, but I do think political violence will continue its upward climb. I don't want to fear the world, but I legitimately think some fear is probably needed at this time, especially if things stay the course.

I don't want anyone killed for their political beliefs, even the worst of society has the right to spout their BS and shouldn't be killed (they should face consequences though). However, I don't think the people on the far-right who worship Trump like a demigod understand this and I believe they 100% think that they should kill people who have even an inclining of a "liberal" idea. I don't want those people to become sitting ducks and I think they should be able to and know how to fight back.

It's part of the reason I've encouraged my minority friends to arm themselves as well, especially my black friends who live in very conservative states. Here in Utah, we have an alarmingly high number of people who think it's perfectly fine to effectively lynch minorities. I'm sure this is the same in many other places too. Like political beliefs, no one should be killed simply because they have a different melanin content in their skin.

After staying for a week in a pretty dodgy part of LA, I can understand how having a gun could make a person feel a bit more comfortable. It was a huge eye opener that what Australia considers a rough neighbourhood, and what America does are two very different things.

Whether I’d actually get one if I lived there is a different question. I’m not a gun person and I’d probably just try to stay away from the unsafe bits rather than carrying a deadly weapon. That is obviously easier said than done however.

I grew up outside of Detroit, which for the longest time was the murder capital of the US and was even among the 10 deadliest cities in the world, and frequently went into the city for sporting events, theatres, restaurants, etc. While you needed to be vigilant, I never felt like I needed to carry outside my trips to the junkyard where you routinely heard gunshots. I feel less safe now in Salt Lake than I did in Detroit and it's mostly due to the extreme political environment.

 

[TexRex]