The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread
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Edit: message adjusted thanks to Famine for pointing out my oversight:
When Satire points out how convoluted this country is:
If we break it down:
1) the right/gop/christian nationalists definition of America is more than likely NOT what America was ever supposed to be, nor what it should be, and unfortunately but thankful not fully what it is.
2) the way these people behave seems to show how completely unaware of how the justice system is supposed to work here in America, the America that is thankfully not what he thinks it is...
3) I believe the closest country to what these people thinks America should be and operating is Russia or dictatorship or North Korea ? Are they even hearing or reading their own message ?
4) how did we even get here ?
5) regardless of which side of the aisle we are on, I think we can safely agree that this country needs a hard reset and start with a clean slate...
There is just too much confusion.
We need to put issues into buckets:
A) what we all universally agree on
B) what we disagree on, but can compromise
C) what we just cannot compromise on
D) the rest we just need impartiality and need the helps of Anthropologists
Let's start by trying to take a neutral stands on everything first:
Am I too idealistic, foolish, simplistic, or dumb ?
Impossible?
Our issues cannot be as difficult as the Iranians/Palestinians issues, could it ?
Or should we just continue to burry our heads into the sand and continue to pay Netflix over $30 for movies I never watch because I barely have time to play GT7?!
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Nacirema ("American" spelled backwards) is a term used in anthropology and sociology in relation to aspects of the behavior and society of citizens of the United States of America. The neologism attempts to create a deliberate sense of self-distancing in order that American anthropologists might look at their own culture more objectively.
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Probably because it's satire. There isn't a real Representative called Jack Kimble.
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Hm. How they think of America is definitely not what America advertises itself as, nor mostly what it seems to have wanted from it's founding ideals.
It is pretty consistent with some major aspects of how America has actually been for most of it's history though, and a lot of what it still is today. So there's a certain amount of justification to their idea of what America is, even though it's kinda gross.
North Korea thinks it's a Democratic People's Republic, but that doesn't change the reality of how the country works day to day. Don't just assume that what a country touts itself as is actually accurate.
Are they unaware? Are they really that out of touch for expecting the rich guy to get away with a slap on the wrist?
I'd say that's a pretty accurate assessment of how the American justice system works a lot of the time. If you are rich and powerful, you are for the most part above the law.
Again, that's not how the justice system is advertised as working but it's very much how it does work and has been for a long time. They're not fools for recognising that and expecting more of the same, they're just assholes for wanting to perpetuate an unjust system.
It's largely impossible without major overhaul of the systems for controlling corruption, bribery and political contributions. But guess who controls the powers that would be required for that overhaul?
Without major civil unrest at a bare minimum, you're not getting anywhere. The powers that be do not give a **** about you and haven't done for a long time. They will not improve things because it's the right thing to do, they will only do it out of fear of losing what wealth and power they have.
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Conservatives: "Law and order."
Also conservatives: "NOT LIKE THAT!!!"
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[giggling]
John Yoo, the former Bush administration lawyer (who himself escaped prosecution for his role in constructing legal justifications to torture detainees, many of whom turned out to be held wrongfully in the first place), has an essay in National Review arguing for revenge prosecutions.
I, uh...I don't think this is how the saying goes, John "Waterboarding Is Good, Actually" Yoo. Absolutely wild that you'd bandy this bastardization about, though.
“Repairing this breach of constitutional norms will require Republicans to follow the age-old maxim: Do unto others as they have done unto you,” urges Yoo.
lol. lmao. I mean...obviously.
He explicitly denounces all the charges against Trump, including the ones for attempting to negate the election results and for stealing classified documents, repeatedly ignoring or lying in the face of requests to return them, and engineering a cover-up.
Mental. Illness.
Also conservatives: "NOT LIKE THAT!!!"
Bush Torture Lawyer John Yoo Calls for Revenge Prosecutions Against Democrats
Poor, innocent Donald Trump must be avenged.
nymag.com
John Yoo, the former Bush administration lawyer (who himself escaped prosecution for his role in constructing legal justifications to torture detainees, many of whom turned out to be held wrongfully in the first place), has an essay in National Review arguing for revenge prosecutions.
I, uh...I don't think this is how the saying goes, John "Waterboarding Is Good, Actually" Yoo. Absolutely wild that you'd bandy this bastardization about, though.
“Repairing this breach of constitutional norms will require Republicans to follow the age-old maxim: Do unto others as they have done unto you,” urges Yoo.
lol. lmao. I mean...obviously.
He explicitly denounces all the charges against Trump, including the ones for attempting to negate the election results and for stealing classified documents, repeatedly ignoring or lying in the face of requests to return them, and engineering a cover-up.
Mental. Illness.
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Gym also pretended to subpoena senior counsel Matthew Colangelo.
Jim Jordan Launches New Idiotic Crusade After Trump Guilty Verdict
Representative Jim Jordan is the king of leading pointless quests—and now he’s picking a fight with the prosecutors in Donald Trump’s hush-money trial.
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Actually relevant to the 2020 election and aftermath.
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Salem Apologizes, Retracts Dinesh D’Souza’s Debunked Election Fraud Movie ‘2000 Mules’
Dinesh D'Souza's movie amplifying Donald Trump's debunked claims of election fraud in 2020 election was retracted by the film's producer.
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Harmed parties suing the pants of of these vermin is fantastic. I think a lot of those harmed probably don't have the appetite for it, but you love to see it when they do.
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Bob's Burgers actor Jay Johnston to plead guilty for role in Capitol riot
Bob's Burgers actor Jay Johnston plans to plead guilty after being charged for his role in the January 6th Capitol riot.
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That sounds like something Jimmy Pesto would do.Bob's Burgers actor Jay Johnston to plead guilty for role in Capitol riot
Bob's Burgers actor Jay Johnston plans to plead guilty after being charged for his role in the January 6th Capitol riot.
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Giuliani disbarred in NY as court finds he repeatedly lied about Trump's 2020 election loss
Rudolph Giuliani has been disbarred in New York. The former New York City mayor, federal prosecutor and legal adviser to Donald Trump received the decision Tuesday from an appeals court in Manhattan.
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Heh.
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Fashion choices help ID Jan. 6 rioter who snapped selfie with Roger Stone, Nick Fuentes: Feds
A fashion-focused Pennsylvania man who snapped selfies with Roger Stone and white supremacist Nick Fuentes was arrested after the FBI said it identified him and his duds in pictures he posted online.
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Still rounding these vermin up. It brings a tear to my eye.A fashion designer from Pennsylvania, who once proudly posted selfies with white supremacist Nick Fuentes and Donald Trump ally Roger Stone, has been arrested on charges related to the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol after FBI agents said they were able to identify him through shoes, a lapel pin and other clothes that he wore on Jan. 6 and featured in photos on Instagram.
Tristan Sartor was charged with four counts including felony charges of entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds and disorderly conduct. He was also charged with misdemeanor counts of parading, demonstrating or picketing and disorderly conduct. He was arrested in Ruffs Dale, Pennsylvania, on July 31.
On [Twitter] on Thursday, Sartor posted about his arrest, saying he was out of jail and meeting with his attorney.
Sartor’s attorney declined comment to Law&Crime on Friday. A court order and the minute entry on the docket show he posted $25,000 bond and was released on the day of his arrest, July 31.
Notably, another post on Sartor’s account features a June 2023 selfie with Donald Trump’s confidant and self-professed Proud Boy Roger Stone.
Sartor also appeared to espouse support on social media for a figure at the center of the far-right Groyper movement, the admitted white supremacist Nick Fuentes. Groypers are described by the Anti-Defamation League as pro-white, pro-European-American and anti-Semitic.
Sartor’s attorney declined comment to Law&Crime on Friday. A court order and the minute entry on the docket show he posted $25,000 bond and was released on the day of his arrest, July 31.
Notably, another post on Sartor’s account features a June 2023 selfie with Donald Trump’s confidant and self-professed Proud Boy Roger Stone.
Sartor also appeared to espouse support on social media for a figure at the center of the far-right Groyper movement, the admitted white supremacist Nick Fuentes. Groypers are described by the Anti-Defamation League as pro-white, pro-European-American and anti-Semitic.
According to a statement of facts, Sartor was seen entering the Capitol with a mass of other rioters at 2:19 p.m. including individuals carrying America First movement flags. Sartor entered through a busted-out Senate Wing doorway and was in the Capitol for only a few minutes, court records show.
FBI agents first identified Sartor on Instagram through his “cocktails_and_coattails” account which featured “unique clothing items” consistent with images of him from open-source footage on Jan. 6, the FBI said. An Instagram post about a pair of his distinctive boots that he wore on a previous trip to Washington, D.C., also gave him away, an FBI affidavit shows.
Agents met with several witnesses as they worked to confirm Sartor’s identity before his arrest. Prosecutors say he had a LinkedIn account that appeared to suggest that he worked in Arlington, Virginia, as a showroom manager for a tailor shop. Investigators also noted that he had a Tennessee driver’s license and one issued from Pennsylvania.
A person who unlawfully entered the Capitol also helped the FBI identify Sartor and the statement of facts noted agents interviewed multiple people who breached the Capitol to help narrow their search for Sartor. Eventually, agents traced a license plate for Sartor’s black Subaru Crosstek to a residence in Ruffs Dale, Pennsylvania, and agents said they spotted him for themselves while he was standing next to a detached garage. Sartor was working for an auto salvage shop.
He will be arraigned before a judge in Washington, D.C., on Aug. 13.
