The GTPlanet 1/4 MILE Record thread!!

[Rotary Junkie]

I'm either going to crack the 8.12x range or fall asleep trying, currently back down to fairly consistent 8.146-8.150s.

EDIT: 8.125. And I wasn't actually looking during the 1-2 shift. Gonna take a pic and then return to work.

Edit 2:

 

[mafia_boy]

No problem, I'll give you link to the unedite(full size picture at imageshack).
I knew the pictures were bad quality and the shutter was just too slow to
get a picture from replay without flash.

Link




I've run the 8.115 twice now with 2 slightly different setups, so there may be more to be chopped off

That's fine Max and thanks for that, it will be updated ASAP.

And here is mazdaman's picture attached properly:
(it's still very small. try not to resize the picture)

MadMax

That's fine with the picture with mazdaman's time and thankyou for being so helpful to other people. 👍 However, I WILL NOT TOLERATE LYING IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, and that's why I ask for the pictures for all the times. Why you ask?? Because of this quote from mazdaman.

Hey mafia boy ive got a little sucess thanks to mad max with his advice and a little bit of tuning i manged to run 8.200. Pics will be uploaded

*edited bit at 23.10 Australian EST* mazdaman has cleared his name in regards to any false times that were claimed as he has now backed up his original claim. As a result, I have taken back any notion of mistruth by him.

However....this will be a future warning for ALL prospective tuners. You lie to me, and REGARDLESS of your time, I will not accept it. I don't care even if you're the world's fastest with that car, you BS me and any future time you put up will stay off the list.....PERMANENTLY.

I take the maintainence of this chart in very high regard and won't tolerate any non-truths. Mis-stating something and quickly editing your mistake is one thing, telling me one time when you CLEARLY haven't reached that time is another.

*added bit* I see your new time RJ, will put both of them up right now. 👍

 

[mazdaman]

OHH ill upload that pic also there are to picturs i took that was one of the time i ran but i also ran 8.200.

 

[MadMax]

I'm either going to crack the 8.12x range or fall asleep trying, currently back down to fairly consistent 8.146-8.150s.

EDIT: 8.125. And I wasn't actually looking during the 1-2 shift. Gonna take a pic and then return to work.

I knew you would figure it out 👍 👍

That's fine Max and thanks for that, it will be updated ASAP.

That's fine with the picture with mazdaman's time and thankyou for being so helpful to other people. 👍 However, I WILL NOT TOLERATE LYING IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, and that's why I ask for the pictures for all the times. Why you ask?? Because of this quote from mazdaman.

I attached the thumbnail a bit wrong so the picture was wery small due to that. R J did it better
And I agree that being specific about the times is best for all.



MadMax

 

[mazdaman]

There you go and sorry for double posting but im just proving what i ran.

 

[mafia_boy]

You aren't sorry for the double post. There's an edit button and you obviously don't pay attention to using it so don't apologize because I know it's not sincere. I'll just ask a mod to merge your stuff because unlike MTN, I don't want the thread cluttered with your double posts.

*added bit* See, this is how you edit a post....not hard is it?? 💡 Just to let you know, I'll update your time to 8.200. 👍

 

[mazdaman]

You aren't sorry for the double post. There's an edit button and you obviously don't pay attention to using it so don't apologize because I know it's not sincere. I'll just ask a mod to merge your stuff because unlike MTN, I don't want the thread cluttered with your double posts.

*added bit* See, this is how you edit a post....not hard is it?? 💡 Just to let you know, I'll update your time to 8.200. 👍

Actually i was sorry so calm down get mad for no reason.
Also was you there to see pac racing new record??

 

[PF]

Well done Mazda on the Spirit time.

@Mafs: Max's top speed of 278(?) on the Bathurst suggests we need to look at the bloody box again. As well as the suspension cause he can't be getting all the time from the tranny.

EDIT:
Also Mazda, we've asked you before to make your sentences a bit more clear; what does this mean and does it belong in this thread?

Also was you there to see pac racing new record??

 

[mafia_boy]

Nah, I've only just relocated so I'm more busy with settling in a new house than concentrating on what anyone is doing, I'll probably find it on YouTube sometime this week though, provided people like rotorg33k were there to film it. 👍

PF, I agree brother, but it was actually 287km/h, not 278. There's plenty left in the box, I just haven't gone deeply into it yet. We're 3km/h off with trap speed and I'd say probably losing 0.03 in the first 60ft.

 

[Lucas]

Actually i was sorry so calm down get mad for no reason.

He actually has a reason to be mad at you, just like me. My reasons are, first, the one aforementioned by mafs about your MTN thread, and second one, are the insane amount of double posts you have been doing since you are in this forum. It took my less than 30 posts during my life in this forum (both "Tahitidrift" and "Codename L" accounts, merged together) to learn to use the edit button. You, on the hand, have over 130 posts and continue to do those errors.

 

[mafia_boy]

Well, I already addressed the double post bit in this thread C-L. If you hadn't noticed I deliberately kept away from the 'calm down' bit, because that's usually the comment that DOES make me bite because I'm very calm at the moment, but I have no problems and make no apologies in being very blunt on issues like double posting and it's not a new issue either. It's just having a basic common sense of abiding to the AUP, it's not :censored:ing rocket science.

Now play nice children. Daddy Mafs! needs a beer.

*added bit* PF, I got what he meant. PAC Racing finally decided to do a full power pass in their Mazda 6 and have beaten the world rotary record. It's taken them over a year to dial that chassis in perfectly with 1/4 & 1/2 track passes, rather than play with risky passes at 200mph where the chassis was still unstable.

 

[PF]

We're 3km/h off with trap speed and I'd say probably losing 0.03 in the first 60ft.

Mmmm, maybe front->rear body roll? The tune I'm using is fast, but it dances like Michael J Fox

EDIT:

PAC Racing finally decided to do a full power pass in their Mazda 6 and have beaten the world rotary record.

brb, google. A link woulda been nice

 

[mafia_boy]

That's what I'm breaking his comment down as. He's said it, I'm just translating it from engrish to english and if they (PAC) did break the record, I wasn't there to see it anyway. I'm having too much fun up here to care anyway.

 

[mazdaman]

Well done Mazda on the Spirit time.

@Mafs: Max's top speed of 278(?) on the Bathurst suggests we need to look at the bloody box again. As well as the suspension cause he can't be getting all the time from the tranny.

Well thank you for the well done also what is your bathurst running ?? Codename l i just have nothing to say to you,if you feel your still mad at me fine so be it!!! Also pf the question i asked mafia boy he knew what i was talking about wich is why he answered it. My main question to you
is what is your car running???


Well imma stop you there pac has not broke the record yet the car only ran 6.88 wich means he only beat his own record. The record to beat is 6.76 @ 210 mph flaco has bot record and mph record. Flaco is actually waiting for him to break the record because rumors saying flaco car is coming to break the record but also it wont be broken again for quite a while. Also this is way off topic can we talk about this in the import room????

 

[PF]

@mazda: I haven't tried the Bathurst since I ran the 8.253 mentioned in the last page or two (ie, that's my best time).

Also mate, I have no idea what you are trying to say in the rest of the post. It really doesn't make sense to me, and english is my first language.

 

[mazdaman]

@mazda: I haven't tried the Bathurst since I ran the 8.253 mentioned in the last page or two (ie, that's my best time).

Also mate, I have no idea what you are trying to say in the rest of the post. It really doesn't make sense to me, and english is my first language.

I am talking about a race car it's a 20b record .

 

[Rotary Junkie]

@Mafs: Max's top speed of 278(?) on the Bathurst suggests we need to look at the bloody box again. As well as the suspension cause he can't be getting all the time from the tranny.

Yes we can.

You want the final drive to be as tall as possible (numerically low). Less driveshaft RPM = acts like a lighter driveshaft.

 

[mazdaman]

yea 2.500 is your target and try playing with the autoset.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Shhhhhhhhhh.

 

[mafia_boy]

mazdaman.....some issues....

a) With the import drag times, you brought it up in my 400m thread, you should've brought it up in imports first, not start here and then transfer it to there. It doesn't work that way.

b) You said that was a PAC record......how??? They have run 6.82 in the past in Group 2 eliminator when they had the MX6 out.

c) Telling us secrets = BAD!! You might need to ask 4000000 people to help you get your RX7 to even come close to the best.......and since you asked Max who IS #1, you will never get it as he won't let all the tricks out of his bag. But to then gain some of those tightly guarded secrets and then just let it out like that just proves your lack of trustworthyness.

Which is 1/2 the reason I don't help you at all when I initially was going to. AND

d) Learn how to requote comments because you fail at that too.

 

[mazdaman]

It is a record for the car overall also with the final drive thats been out for awhile now its even in my thread.Also the record goes in the 20b list if you did'nt know in the u.s we keep track of all the 6second record in import racing because this year there barely were any also it goes on a list.

 

[mafia_boy]

It is a record for the car overall

BUT, it's not even a PAC record. As I already said they did 6.82 in the MX6, they wouldn't care that the M6 ran a 6.88.

also with the final drive thats been out for awhile now its even in my thread.

I checked MTN, it's not in there....so the BS meter is going back up again.

Also the record goes in the 20b list if you did'nt know in the u.s we keep track of all the 6second record in import racing because this year there barely were any also it goes on a list.

If you guys kept NHRA Sport Compact going over there we would be interested in what was happening in the US.

 

[mazdaman]

It still is going on but not on t.v ill give you the website of it. Put it this way the nhra league is over but in florida theres a new pne its not big yet but its getting there and ill show you the thing with the final drive. Its on page 6.The web site is nscra.com.

 

[MadMax]

No worries, mazdaman , Mafs everything is meant to be revealed sooner or later.

"Thinking about the upcoming Drag tune garage which I'm planning to open before 2010. "

So, sharing information is good as long as it benefits the users and
gives them ideas how to use it elsewhere too.

I spent another 200km in the Spirit R and pretty fast hit the current PB time.
I tested alot of possible variations of settings on every part of the car, but didn't get any improvement.
That's now 3rd time I've ran the 8.115 (which tells alot about possible improvement in sight. 8.10 , reality hopefully very soon )



MadMax

 

[MadMax]

I've been into FR's lately and desided to grab another record with a GT All start:

Dodge VIPER GTS '99 - 8.235 (there is room for some improvement)

Sorry no picture availeble yet. Your Speed 12 is on the elimination spot Mafs


And I asked before about the N-class, I've done 9.885 with Spirit R on N3's


I thought of this today:
-Aren't the cars we drive limited normally to new cars and 10.0 km specials?

So, we are missing alot of the cars awaileble in used cars lots.

This gave me the idea of Used Car Class for AWD's RWD's and FWD's

And I've alredy ran the Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD,J) '91 with results of 8.450

Think about it!



MadMax

 

[mafia_boy]

Stop trying to suggest N tyre, I already told you that's NOT going to happen Max. S tyre I can live with, N Tyre.....straight out NO!

Used cars.....the only reason we don't all use used cars is a simple analogy.....more power from less km's. Once again all you would be doing is restricting yourself. But it's not entirely true. Before the FF category became an exclusive 11sec club, there were plenty of cars that had high mileage AND in the Top 15. Two clear examples of that were:

Mitsubishi FTO (either GPX or GP-R)
Mitsubishi Eclipse '95 (they do come in 10.0km, but I ran a 12.1 time with a 60k version)
Also, the DC2R can be done that way too, but you lose too much power and those FF's NEED every hp they can get.

 

[MadMax]

Stop trying to suggest N tyre, I already told you that's NOT going to happen Max. S tyre I can live with, N Tyre.....straight out NO!

Yep, I got that the last time it was up. Just saying that there are cars that would do 10 second passes no sweat.

Used cars.....the only reason we don't all use used cars is a simple analogy.....more power from less km's. Once again all you would be doing is restricting yourself. But it's not entirely true. Before the FF category became an exclusive 11sec club, there were plenty of cars that had high mileage AND in the Top 15. Two clear examples of that were:

Mitsubishi FTO (either GPX or GP-R)
Mitsubishi Eclipse '95 (they do come in 10.0km, but I ran a 12.1 time with a 60k version)
Also, the DC2R can be done that way too, but you lose too much power and those FF's NEED every hp they can get.

About '95 Eclipse,
This is very true, but once the leaderboard got filled with faster cars
your time got forgotten. This is what has happened at almost every category on the 1/4 mile leaderboard.

My opinion is that the used, high mileage cars deserve own category.


Off topic: I believe I saw a 8.4 second Supra in the leaderboard in the past.
-What the 🤬 , I thought.
So I'm pretty mutch questionising the reliability of the leader board with this sentence.
I have great respect to you and your work on the leaderboard Mafs ,
so I hope and believe that you are able to sort this kind of issues
which have been left unchecked in previous 1/4 mile leaderboard thread.

Other one I can think off : Ram-Rod - '67 Mercury Cougar XR7 - 8.876 ( American Muscle category)



MadMax

 

[mafia_boy]

And as I have already said regarding the Supra & XR7, those times were performed BEFORE I took over the 1/4 mile thread. That issue would've had to have been brought up with K-Briggs who ran it before I did and he hasn't been on in years. I know you have followed it up re: XR7, but the point I have to reaffirm is that it WAS there before I did it so I can't disprove it and so it will stay as it is.

Another example of this which has continued since then is the Spec-C record. Now, I am super skeptical about the time (which is a 6 sec time) and have the distinct feeling that it was achieved through a Gameshark and this record was put up before I took over the 1/4 mile thread aswell. However, the user (cheezman) has insisted it was genuine and has the photo proof too and put it up for me too. Do I knock him back?? Even if I wanted to, the fact is I really can't.

Mind you, when GT5 is released and I do the 1/4 mile thread for that, then I will have complete control in regards to accepting what's genuine and what's not, but as I didn't create it I have to accept what was already there in the first place. It's not an ideal situation I know as I do take a huge amount of pride in the chart but it was NEVER my chart to start with, I just took over the housekeeping so to speak. That's why I always left "overseer of the 1/4 mile" in the signature because I am just that, a supervisor of the chart, not the creator of the chart.

Now, as for used cars....it MAY deserve it's own category, but then I have to then go into the following details:
*Amount of Km's
*Drivetrain

And from that you will see that the 1/4 mile will be dominated by the same sorts of cars that are already blitzing the records and it might just become a Spec-C & GT-R chart. And it won't be hard for people to get around that anyway. Just wear down the GT-R Concept and you'll have the whole chart filled with 20,000km versions of them, all of them still in the 7.4sec range.

I don't mind the suggestions Max and some of them have been zingers (like your WRC suggestion), but then compare the other GT4 charts around the world to this one. NONE of them have charts for the Spec-C, none have charts for Trucks/SUV's, and some of them use the -- drivetrain as a category when you only have to check on google to see whether that car which is designated as -- on GT4 is a FF, FR, MR/RR or 4WD, which makes the -- bit very pointless. I'm the only one that concentrates on RACE CARS, and I'm the only one that looks at No Nitrous categories for both road & race.

Add to it, I'm pretty much the only one that will allow multiple times from the same tuner for the same category, so long as they are different models. You can't get that at Gamespot or anywhere else that caters for the GT4 1/4 mile, I've tried. That's why I'm only #3 in the world there when I'm really #3 & #8 (with Escudo & GT-R Concept).

Anyway, that's as much explaining as I need to do, otherwise this post will be as long as the bible.

 

[MadMax]

And as I have already said regarding the Supra & XR7, those times were performed BEFORE I took over the 1/4 mile thread. That issue would've had to have been brought up with K-Briggs who ran it before I did and he hasn't been on in years. I know you have followed it up re: XR7, but the point I have to reaffirm is that it WAS there before I did it so I can't disprove it and so it will stay as it is.

Another example of this which has continued since then is the Spec-C record. Now, I am super skeptical about the time (which is a 6 sec time) and have the distinct feeling that it was achieved through a Gameshark and this record was put up before I took over the 1/4 mile thread aswell. However, the user (cheezman) has insisted it was genuine and has the photo proof too and put it up for me too. Do I knock him back?? Even if I wanted to, the fact is I really can't.

Yep,
I was avare of this being a tough subject to talk about and even difficultier to extract.

Mind you, when GT5 is released and I do the 1/4 mile thread for that, then I will have complete control in regards to accepting what's genuine and what's not, but as I didn't create it I have to accept what was already there in the first place. It's not an ideal situation I know as I do take a huge amount of pride in the chart but it was NEVER my chart to start with, I just took over the housekeeping so to speak. That's why I always left "overseer of the 1/4 mile" in the signature because I am just that, a supervisor of the chart, not the creator of the chart.

I'll wait for the GT5 1/4 mile thead hosted by you. This is ideal concept. 👍
(beforehand ,may I suggest that there would be atleast top 30 for each drivetrain/category)

Now, as for used cars....it MAY deserve it's own category, but then I have to then go into the following details:
*Amount of Km's
*Drivetrain

And from that you will see that the 1/4 mile will be dominated by the same sorts of cars that are already blitzing the records and it might just become a Spec-C & GT-R chart. And it won't be hard for people to get around that anyway. Just wear down the GT-R Concept and you'll have the whole chart filled with 20,000km versions of them, all of them still in the 7.4sec range.

What I originally meanth with the used, high mileage cars class was that:
The chart would be open for only those cars availeble in used car lots.
So , no wearing down new cars. The point is to have different cars
in use than on current new car/10.0km special leaderboards.

And what comes to differences between 40000km and 60000km version of same car:
I've seen no difference in their performance after all upgrades.
I believe there is a limit for power downfall. A point where the power stops dropping. And I believe it's at about 20000 km +-2500km.
(correct me if I'm wrong)

I don't mind the suggestions Max and some of them have been zingers (like your WRC suggestion), but then compare the other GT4 charts around the world to this one. NONE of them have charts for the Spec-C, none have charts for Trucks/SUV's, and some of them use the -- drivetrain as a category when you only have to check on google to see whether that car which is designated as -- on GT4 is a FF, FR, MR/RR or 4WD, which makes the -- bit very pointless. I'm the only one that concentrates on RACE CARS, and I'm the only one that looks at No Nitrous categories for both road & race.

Add to it, I'm pretty much the only one that will allow multiple times from the same tuner for the same category, so long as they are different models. You can't get that at Gamespot or anywhere else that caters for the GT4 1/4 mile, I've tried. That's why I'm only #3 in the world there when I'm really #3 & #8 (with Escudo & GT-R Concept).

Anyway, that's as much explaining as I need to do, otherwise this post will be as long as the bible.

The amount of categories in this thread's leaderboard is #1 I've encountered.
And allowing multiple times means more work for you, but very mutch appriciated.

Thanks Mafs .



MadMax

 

[mafia_boy]

Yep,I'll wait for the GT5 1/4 mile thead hosted by you. This is ideal concept. 👍
(beforehand ,may I suggest that there would be atleast top 30 for each drivetrain/category)

I was thinking a minimum of 20 already, but 30 might be more appropriate considering the amount of people already on GT5P & PSN network who are waiting for GT5 itself.

What I originally meanth with the used, high mileage cars class was that:
The chart would be open for only those cars availeble in used car lots.
So , no wearing down new cars. The point is to have different cars
in use than on current new car/10.0km special leaderboards.

I agree with you on that, but a used R34 would still blitz it in my opinion. Even the used WRX's would smash a lot of times, and it might just become a 4WD festival again....that's what holds me back primarily.

And what comes to differences between 40000km and 60000km version of same car:
I've seen no difference in their performance after all upgrades.
I believe there is a limit for power downfall. A point where the power stops dropping. And I believe it's at about 20000 km +-2500km.
(correct me if I'm wrong)

Depends on how often you oil the car. It can stop dropping even earlier than that.

The amount of categories in this thread's leaderboard is #1 I've encountered.
And allowing multiple times means more work for you, but very mutch appriciated.

Thanks Mafs .

MadMax

Thankyou, I try to make sure that the GTPlanet chart is #1 and the most respected by holding those regulations. Just wait until GT5, it WILL be bigger & better than ever, I can guarantee it.

As a seperate bit of praise for a person, thanks must go to 888 Tuning for working out a 400m strip so you guys can do some drag racing on GT5P. 👍 Great effort by him to do such a task.