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How did Beunion get banned already? 
Guessing some post that was off the wall that was deleted.
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The Homosexuality Discussion Thread
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How did Beunion get banned already?
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Was there any post on the wall?
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- Johnnypenso
For a couple of millenia most of us were taught gay is bad, gay is evil, you will burn in hell if you are gay etc. In the space of 20 or 30 years we've went from that to general acceptance of homosexuality in much of the Western world. Laws are being passed or drawn up in many countries specifying equal rights for gay people which reflects that cultural momentum preceding the legal change. There is still much work to be done in this area, but the fact that it all happened so fast in historical terms is actually the shocking part.
The fact that some people disagree...well that's the way it is.
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At least the good thing is that most active posters in this thread are all for gay marriage, while the opposers are more or less random people whose arguments are full of logical fallacies. Not too difficult to see which side is winning in real life as well.
Yup. I don't mind if they feel like digging their own graves.
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British cabinet minister - Gays "clearly" cannot provide a safe and warm environment for children
David Jones MP was also one of the MPs who voted against the Gay Marriage bill, which was discussed in the Britain thread.
Very helpful comments from one of the country's senior politicians. His constituency borders mine. Not that that is particularly relevant, I just don't like the thought that people as close as 20 miles from me are represented by people like this.
This, for a start, is just utter tripe. Not being able to conceive children is not the same as not doing it. In fact, plenty of heterosexual couples actually cannot biologically procreate children. And the rest of that quote has absolutely nothing to do with who has or should have marriage rights.
Video is here. Second video down.
David Jones MP was also one of the MPs who voted against the Gay Marriage bill, which was discussed in the Britain thread.
Very helpful comments from one of the country's senior politicians. His constituency borders mine. Not that that is particularly relevant, I just don't like the thought that people as close as 20 miles from me are represented by people like this.
This, for a start, is just utter tripe. Not being able to conceive children is not the same as not doing it. In fact, plenty of heterosexual couples actually cannot biologically procreate children. And the rest of that quote has absolutely nothing to do with who has or should have marriage rights.
Video is here. Second video down.
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I actually think that the end of commonly held yet oppressive backward views is currently struggling to keep pace with the advancement of science and rational, non-prejudiced thinking.
I'm glad that that's the case, to be honest I was reacting to the apparently necessary existence of the thread in the first place.
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I feel that oppressive religions, or at least the oppressive elements of religions, such as the homophobic elements of christianity, or the misogynistic elements of islam, are increasingly being discredited by younger followers of these faiths, so at the very least i feel that the citing of religious books for guidance regarding modern aspects of society is on it's way out.
But I do agree that these things will exist amongst minorities of people for a while yet unfortunately.
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No, I'm not his mother. He might find some odd enjoyment if I was though
But it is pretty damn clear he is being sarcastic. Absolutist statements of that extreme nature typically are.
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I think you are overestimating how widespread the knowledge of advanced scientific concepts are and how common rational thinking really is. Most of the world is rather backwards when it comes to science and rational thought. Most of my friends have good jobs or run their own businesses, are active in the community etc...and they can't have a rational discussion to save their lives. Most of their beliefs and what they know about the world comes from soundbite tv news. In other words, if Wolf Blitzer or Sean Hannity or whoever they like spends one or two minutes on a topic, that's the extent of their knowledge on a topic, and most people I know fall into that category.
No, I'm not his mother. He might find some odd enjoyment if I was though
Absolutists statements of that extreme nature are commonplace here and anywhere else on the net.
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Learn how to place things in context, perhaps? But I mean, I guess someone could make 4000 posts and be here 2 years and not learn a thing about how other members operate. At all. Then jump on another member when he points out what the intention was.
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Robbie Rogers, professional association football player, admits he is gay
And in doing so, is only the third confirmed homosexual football player. Sadly, he is retiring from the game at the young age of 25.
Sports need to address the fears of homosexual players who are too embarrassed to come forward. Association football in particular, given it's worldwide popularity but 'laddish' playing culture.
And in doing so, is only the third confirmed homosexual football player. Sadly, he is retiring from the game at the young age of 25.
Sports need to address the fears of homosexual players who are too embarrassed to come forward. Association football in particular, given it's worldwide popularity but 'laddish' playing culture.
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Not sure if it's been mentioned, but there was an announcement few days ago by someone at the Coast Guard station where I was working that the Coast Guard now fully recognizes homosexual relationships. It's been tolerant of them for a while now, but now dependents get the full benefits and resources as a straight couple.
EDIT: Fond a source. And a link to the .pdf that's got the details.
EDIT: Fond a source. And a link to the .pdf that's got the details.
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Yep. The same culture that chants racist songs at black players and causes the occasional riot at overseas away games. Not to mention the dozens of players in recent memory who've gang-raped girls in hotel rooms, shouted their own racist slurs on the field, and so-on.
Naturally, it's the small minority who spoils things - I doubt the majority of football fans really care if a player is gay or not. But as one of the biggest sports in the world, it's high time the sport's image problem was fixed.
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Unfortunately the football authorities rarely contain characters who have the strength to stand up for, well, anything. It says it all that a player got a heavier fine for an advertising faux-pas than various related racial incidents.
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What do you guys think of Straight Pride?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_pride
There was a huge debate at our school when the Gay-Straight alliance complained at about how a Valentines day activity wasn't homo-friendly. On the 13th, guys got bracelets and gave them to girls, and the person who gathered the most won a prize. On the 14th, it was the same except the girls got the bracelets. The "GSA" started complaining on and on about it...
So how is it that homosexual pride and parades are okay, but whenever straight people do something such as a Valentines day activity, they get bombarded on?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_pride
There was a huge debate at our school when the Gay-Straight alliance complained at about how a Valentines day activity wasn't homo-friendly. On the 13th, guys got bracelets and gave them to girls, and the person who gathered the most won a prize. On the 14th, it was the same except the girls got the bracelets. The "GSA" started complaining on and on about it...
So how is it that homosexual pride and parades are okay, but whenever straight people do something such as a Valentines day activity, they get bombarded on?
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I'd say it depends if 'straight pride' is a tool used as a way of ridiculing 'gay pride', in which case it's not acceptable. For a long time in our society it has been difficult to be an open homosexual, and there should be every opportunity to do so. To claim "We're straight and we don't go on about it or have parades" is both absurd shows some insecurity, in my opinion.
However, if 'straight pride' is a legitimate expression of heterosexuality, then that's fair enough. There's no reason not to be comfortable with one's heterosexuality. But I personally wouldn't participate in something like that.
However, if 'straight pride' is a legitimate expression of heterosexuality, then that's fair enough. There's no reason not to be comfortable with one's heterosexuality. But I personally wouldn't participate in something like that.
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