The "I can't believe they raced it!" Thread.

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Its front-engined design reminds me of the GT-R LM NISMO, and it seems as competitive as that too. :embarrassed:

You could say the designers were taking the PAS. :P
 
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These Pontiac-based puns are PASsable at best, I have no idea what you guys are thinking... :P

And it is difficult to find pictures of the car facing forwards, it seems that old IMSA photographers simply weren't interested on the PAS.
 
Here's another pic of the PAS, showing what the front looked like. I think this thing pretty darn cool.

pontiacgtariverside83.jpg
 
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Its front-engined design reminds me of the GT-R LM NISMO, and it seems as competitive as that too. :embarrassed:

You could say the designers were taking the PAS. :P
Ford Mustang GTP says hi. :mischievous:
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Actually just kidding this was also a bad idea :lol: , though the engine was the issue really. Wasn't really a match for the other GTP's overall. Guess the Pontiac PAS (or pos, am I right? :P ) and GTP Mustang join the Nissan in the bin of bad FR prototype designs. Panoz still the only successful one. :D
 
the mustangs results at Riverside begged to differ with that statement.. the car blatantly left the field
in the longer races however trying to push 20+psi of boost through the 4 cyl started melting parts.

and the GTR LMP1 car you speak of... beleive it or not is FF not FR as it would appear
 
Ford Mustang GTP says hi. :mischievous:
wY96H5aSKWwhcbEMBBD5_01lsimsa84.jpg.jpg

Actually just kidding this was also a bad idea :lol: , though the engine was the issue really. Wasn't really a match for the other GTP's overall. Guess the Pontiac PAS (or pos, am I right? :P ) and GTP Mustang join the Nissan in the bin of bad FR prototype designs. Panoz still the only successful one. :D

I've have the impression that the Mustang GTP was a evolution of Zakspeed's Capris.

The BDA engine was enlarged for the Mustang effort and used a carbon-fiber monocoque instead of the tubeframe construction that the Capri had. Looking over that, someone could think both cars were the same underneath the different bodies.
 
I've have the impression that the Mustang GTP was a evolution of Zakspeed's Capris.

The BDA engine was enlarged for the Mustang effort and used a carbon-fiber monocoque instead of the tubeframe construction that the Capri had. Looking over that, someone could think both cars were the same underneath the different bodies.

The early GTP Mustang was nothing more than a re-bodied tube-frame Zakspeed Capri. But i don't think the version pictured above had much in common with it, other than the engine.

The BDA Turbo engine was based on the ancient Ford Kent block. It was able to take upto 1600cc as an enlargement from the original 996cc but its really too small to take much bigger bore-sizes and keep reliable. I know how unreliable they can be when enlarged to 2ltrs, 2.1ltr and the stresses of extreme turbocharging, is just pushing it too far, much even with a modified block.
 
The early GTP Mustang was nothing more than a re-bodied tube-frame Zakspeed Capri. But i don't think the version pictured above had much in common with it, other than the engine.

The BDA Turbo engine was based on the ancient Ford Kent block. It was able to take upto 1600cc as an enlargement from the original 996cc but its really too small to take much bigger bore-sizes and keep reliable. I know how unreliable they can be when enlarged to 2ltrs, 2.1ltr and the stresses of extreme turbocharging, is just pushing it too far, much even with a modified block.
Not surprising then that with the Ford Probe GTP and later the Ford Mustang Maxum GTP (basically a Group C) they went with another engine I believe (not 100% on that).
 
Good luck getting your hands on a <2-year-old F1 car with running gear. :lol:
 
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