The Interview

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Keef
I think we should bomb North Korea. Screw it.
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Why? On what evidence? On what authority or justification would such an attack be founded?

Sure, it's fun to bomb people, and thereby assert our higher values and morality. But we must live with the lasting consequences of our actions. It's no fun to think before we act and kill others, but perhaps we had better do it - just this once? We wouldn't want the next generation of libertarians to think this generation acted unwisely.
 
Dotini
Why? On what evidence? On what authority or justification would such an attack be founded?
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How about the many death camps that NK has? Or how human rights are non existent there?

The only issue a war with NK has is China. They don't want to lose their bufferzone called NK. But people should tell China that a bufferzone is no longer needed to bomb the crap out of them too. But war with China will not happen. That most likely will mean the end of civilization as we know it. China needs to get off their ass and accept that what's going on in NK needs to stop.
 
Because I don't think they're funny anymore. You can only keep a joke going for so long. I think after The Interview comes out we should call it good and just bomb them. Then we can make fun of Raul and Cuba until the Embargo gets lifted.
 
Keef
Because I don't think they're funny anymore. You can only keep a joke going for so long. I think after The Interview comes out we should call it good and just bomb them. Then we can make fun of Raul and Cuba until the Embargo gets lifted.
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We need China in this. Otherwise Chinese bombs and rockets will head towards the USA.

And the Cuban Embargo? Once Fidel hits the dirt everything will change ASAP.
 
Keef
I think we should bomb North Korea. Screw it.
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I remember how well that strategy turn out in Vietnam.

A group of despots do not represent the other 7 million that live there, the whole 911 affair comes to mind while reading posts like this, not to be racist but Americans don't make any kind of sense sometimes.


NK can self push out of the state it's in with some media aperture, it's a country based on a cult of personality, break the cult, break the country, then the South could just do their thing. A staged coup on NK leadership could work, that would be the best way to go about it. As to how to do it, that would be the tricky question, but the Chinese could help a lot in that regard.
 
Glad to see we're back in imagination land where it is ok to torture some folks, kill millions in the name of freedom and democracy, use chemichal weapons but bomb others (usually muslims) for thinking they did it to, ruin lives everywhere, bring regime change in almost every African and South American country, sanction coutries when they don't wan't to play by your rules, sanction countries for not sanctioning the coutries you tell them to sanction, yell freedom of speech yet Snowden can't go home cause he told the truth and Asange is still afraid to go outside.

What happend to people being mad about the whole torture program? We now have to be scared of The DPRK because the msm thinks it 'might' have something to do with the hack and it 'might' attack? Where is the evidence? I know that country is run by a crazy person but The DPRK does not scare me.

you know what scares me? A nation that claims to be fighting for my freedom that has more than 900 bases in over 130 countries world wide.
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2edgy4me.

It's allowing European, Japanese, and Korean governments to save tons of money by having much less extensive militaries so they can be smug about health care on the internet.

If Japan, S. Korea, France, Germany, Italy, and the UK wanted the US out, they'd ask them to leave. The US can't win, if they don't do anything it's because they don't care, and then if they do anything now they're the world police.
 
Noob616
2edgy4me.

It's allowing European, Japanese, and Korean governments to save tons of money by having much less extensive militaries so they can be smug about health care on the internet.

If Japan, S. Korea, France, Germany, Italy, and the UK wanted the US out, they'd ask them to leave. The US can't win, if they don't do anything it's because they don't care, and then if they do anything now they're the world police.
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Thanks for clearing that up! They are only trying to help but people are being mean :(
 
Keef
Because I don't think they're funny anymore. You can only keep a joke going for so long. I think after The Interview comes out we should call it good and just bomb them. Then we can make fun of Raul and Cuba until the Embargo gets lifted.
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Well you are getting your wish. The New York Post is reporting that The Interview is releasing by way of Crackle in apparent defiance to the hackers.
 
Sanji Himura
Well you are getting your wish. The New York Post is reporting that The Interview is releasing by way of Crackle in apparent defiance to the hackers.
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Do you have a link? I want to se the details. Crackle has PS3 and Roku apps, so I can watch it on my big TV.
 
After a 9.5 hour outage, NK internet service has been reportedly restored.
Is this the proportionate response to cybervandalism Obama threatened?
Did the US cause the outage? China? Did NK do it to themselves?

In this brave new world of cybervandalism - or cyberwarfare - there are no laws, no rules, few precedents and no limits.

We do know that the US and Israel unleashed the stuxnet virus to sabotage Iran's nuclear centrifuge industry, but then the virus escaped and caused havoc elsewhere. There have been no known consequences to the US or Israel to this attack on Iran.

We also know that Russia and China are continuously hacking US computers in government, business and academia. Again, with no known cost or consequences to them.

Some US individuals have been hurt when Target and other businesses have had consumer data hacked. Identity theft is an issue.

The big fear is said to be hacking of infrastructure such as the electric grid, dams, pipelines, refineries, railroads, airports, nuke plants, etc. The shutdown of the internet in the US would be a very big deal, since it is so key to business and entertainment.

It would appear some countries are more vulnerable to cyber attacks than some others. The US appears vulnerable to this asymmetrical sort of attack. While I'm sure we are busy preparing to some degree for this, the generals are preoccupied with fighting the previous war, and are almost always caught unprepared.
 
I'm guessing the internet blocking was a hint from China telling NK to pipe down haha.

My brother pointed out to me this morning, if Sony are still going to release the film somehow and ask people to buy it then this is brilliant publicity. I was considering watching the movie before however I'm definitely going to watch it now as I'm guessing are millions of other people who have heard about this fiasco on the news.
 
Sony should release a 480p, 2gb version of the interview as update 1.16 for GT6, kill several birds with one stone. Call it a premium and add it to the car count for the win.
 
A graphic depiction of the humiliation and dismemberment of a well-known living person is a relatively rare phenomenon, not to be missed!

Back in the good old days, the heads of English kings and princes were sometimes displayed on spikes for the public to see. This was a salutary exercise for the winning side, but the losers sometimes had their entire family line put to the sword to ensure no progeny could ever reclaim the throne. Perhaps The Interview will complete the symbolic message by showing or implying the death of Kim's wife and children, extincting his evil bloodline forever?

However, what if the shoe were on the other foot, and NK released a film comically but graphically depicting the gruesome humiliation, death and dismemberment of Queen Eiizabeth, Prince Charles, Princess Anne, Princes Andrew and Edward and all their children? Would that really be funny? HBO's Game of Thrones runs stories similar to this with rapt audiences of millions, excepting the victims are fictional and set in a mythical past. We could call this film the Red Coronation. Tasteless though such a film would be, could it be reasonably objected to by the Queen, her family and subjects? Would it constitute grounds for any kind of legal objection, political and economic sanction, or cultural enmity?
 
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@Dotini First of all I'm not entirely sure that they even manage to assassinate KimJ in "The Interview". Perhaps KimJ threw a stink over something that doesn't even actually happen! :lol: I'll report back on Saturday after watching the movie. ;)

Second of all if anybody made a movie depicting the Queen and her family lines brutal death, or even Obama and his family's death, I don't think anything should be done about it. Those people would have a reason to be upset, however they shouldn't lead to the complete banning of the movie.

It's perfectly reasonable to be upset about being killed in a movie. I can understand why KimJ is upset, though I don't feel sorry for it (Maybe if you didn't want to be fake assassinated, stop doing things that make people want to assassinate you! 💡 ). That is where it should stop though. You can come out publicly against the movie, but let the people decide if they want to do it. Don't pay people to hack and blackmail your way to destroying the movie.
 
Dotini
Perhaps The Interview will complete the symbolic message by showing or implying the death of Kim's wife and children, extincting his evil bloodline forever?
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Perhaps it'll feature cartoon bears singing The Macc Lads greatest hits.
Dotini
However, what if the shoe were on the other foot, and NK released a film comically but graphically depicting the gruesome humiliation, death and dismemberment of Queen Eiizabeth, Prince Charles, Princess Anne, Princes Andrew and Edward and all their children? Would that really be funny? HBO's Game of Thrones runs stories similar to this with rapt audiences of millions, excepting the victims are fictional and set in a mythical past. We could call this film the Red Coronation. Tasteless though such a film would be, could it be reasonably objected to by the Queen, her family and subjects? Would it constitute grounds for any kind of legal objection, political and economic sanction, or cultural enmity?
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I wouldn't even give a second thought to it.

Hell, the film 2012 killed them, you, me, my family... So did Knowing. So did The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. Boo hoo.
 

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