The Le Mans General Discussion Thread

Hmm... If we have Ferrari return to Le Mans, and BMW return to Le Mans, then all we'll need is McLaren and Honda to get together and pitch an entry... Hmm... This could be epic.
 
Even if he could drive for them, I don't think Schumacher would.

If the whole Ferrari P1 program is real (which I don't think it is), I'd say Kobayashi, Fisichella and Rigon would be the no-brainer drivers for the program. Fisichella in particular could benefit from LMP1, as he hasn't proven to be a particularly quick GT driver, a move to something closer to F1 cars could do him a lot of good.

If Massa was leaving his F1 seat at the time, that would be the biggest fish they could get, but the timing would have to be right. Otherwise, there's still a decent selection of in-house Ferrari drivers to chose from: De La Rosa, Bruni, Vilander, Kaffer, Filippi, Ramos (?), Zampieri (?), and outsiders like Chandhok, Hartley, Pla, Heidfeld (if Porsche don't pick him up), etc.
 
Henri Pescarolo looking to get back in lmp1 next year. His car choices are the DOME S103, the ADESS or the OAK P1.

I have immense respect for privateers in LMP1, but unfortunately I think Henri Pescarolo will just blow away money on it. Especially with the new rules next year, the manufacturer teams and their huge budgets will just be way too far ahead of anything else, like it has been since Audi vs Peugeot and Audi vs Toyota.

Didn't Henri ran his team with a Peugeot 908 at Le Mans some years ago? Wasn't it the Playstation sponsored 908? It's too bad that race was a disaster for Peugeot as I've always cheered for the privateer teams running a 908.
 
Didn't Henri ran his team with a Peugeot 908 at Le Mans some years ago? Wasn't it the Playstation sponsored 908? It's too bad that race was a disaster for Peugeot as I've always cheered for the privateer teams running a 908.

'That race' wast a disaster for Pug. Pescarolo ran the 908 in 2009 (Oreca in 2010), the year in which Marc Gene, David Brabham and Alex Wurz won for Peugeot in one of the factory cars.
 
'That race' wast a disaster for Pug. Pescarolo ran the 908 in 2009 (Oreca in 2010), the year in which Marc Gene, David Brabham and Alex Wurz won for Peugeot in one of the factory cars.

Apart from the winning car, it truly was a disaster race for Peugeot in terms of pitstops. Many mistakes that should not have been made by such a professional team were made, and in my opinion Peugeot should've swept the entire podium that year, if not top 4.
 
I have immense respect for privateers in LMP1, but unfortunately I think Henri Pescarolo will just blow away money on it. Especially with the new rules next year, the manufacturer teams and their huge budgets will just be way too far ahead of anything else, like it has been since Audi vs Peugeot and Audi vs Toyota.

Didn't Henri ran his team with a Peugeot 908 at Le Mans some years ago? Wasn't it the Playstation sponsored 908? It's too bad that race was a disaster for Peugeot as I've always cheered for the privateer teams running a 908.

Privateer cars get less weight and more 'fuel flow'. The DOME probably has better aero properties than any 2014 car revealed so far. At least the experts agree DOME has very strong abilities in this area.
 
Apart from the winning car, it truly was a disaster race for Peugeot in terms of pitstops. Many mistakes that should not have been made by such a professional team were made, and in my opinion Peugeot should've swept the entire podium that year, if not top 4.

I wouldn't have said 2009 was a disaster, 2008 and 2010 are too races they shouldn't easily won, especially 2008.
 
Even if he could drive for them, I don't think Schumacher would.

If the whole Ferrari P1 program is real (which I don't think it is), I'd say Kobayashi, Fisichella and Rigon would be the no-brainer drivers for the program. Fisichella in particular could benefit from LMP1, as he hasn't proven to be a particularly quick GT driver, a move to something closer to F1 cars could do him a lot of good.

If Massa was leaving his F1 seat at the time, that would be the biggest fish they could get, but the timing would have to be right. Otherwise, there's still a decent selection of in-house Ferrari drivers to chose from: De La Rosa, Bruni, Vilander, Kaffer, Filippi, Ramos (?), Zampieri (?), and outsiders like Chandhok, Hartley, Pla, Heidfeld (if Porsche don't pick him up), etc.

We'll see, but I doubt Schumacher wouldn't be looked at, he does have Sport car experience and to gain a 24h LeMans to his already extensive record holding in F1 would be nice. He was somewhat fast still in the Merc GP car so I think he still has juice to run, I mean there are plenty of drivers around his age that race the event so...

I do agree with some of the other names and from what I read there is enough evidence to think that a program at Ferrari is being worked on.
 
I wonder if Ferrari won't just use one of the already developed cars.

Even if there was any 'already developed cars' of which their aren't any for the 2014 regs. Ferrari wouldn't use a customer chassis in a million years.
 
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Privateer cars get less weight and more 'fuel flow'. The DOME probably has better aero properties than any 2014 car revealed so far. At least the experts agree DOME has very strong abilities in this area.

Where'd you read this Seth? I'd like to read up on it too. With regards to the DOME's aero properties.
 
Even if their was any 'already developed cars' of which their aren't any for the 2014 regs. Ferrari wouldn't use a customer chassis in a million years.

Already Developed in terms of Dome, Perrinn, Adess, etc.
Not sure what else to call them, although I am aware that they dont exist yet.
 
Even if there was any 'already developed cars' of which their aren't any for the 2014 regs. Ferrari wouldn't use a customer chassis in a million years.
Agreed with the Ferrari aspect of making their own car. But there are at least 3 or 4 developed privateer chassis's for next year.
Where'd you read this Seth? I'd like to read up on it too. With regards to the DOME's aero properties.

Check mulsannescorner.com he has a list of the updated regs for 2014.
 
Agreed with the Ferrari aspect of making their own car. But there are at least 3 or 4 developed privateer chassis's for next year.

Check mulsannescorner.com he has a list of the updated regs for 2014.

Depends what you mean by developed, none of the cars will be fully ready and have the problems ironed out. So according to my interpretation of the word 'developed', they're aren't any cars yet.
 
Even if there was any 'already developed cars' of which their aren't any for the 2014 regs. Ferrari wouldn't use a customer chassis in a million years.
No manufacturer would use a customer chassis for a factory effort. But they do outsource, usually quite a lot. Ferrari themselves outsourced the 333 SP to Dallara/Michelotto and Ferrari's V8 GT cars (360 GTC-458 GT2/458 GT3) have all been built and developed in Padova by Michelotto.

If Ferrari was to commission an LMP1 project though, it would find a partner from the start and the project would be for Ferrari and Ferrari only. So it wouldn't be with any of the groups that are currently showing off/advertising their conceptual/prototype prototypes.
 
Depends what you mean by developed, none of the cars will be fully ready and have the problems ironed out. So according to my interpretation of the word 'developed', they're aren't any cars yet.

No car is fully developed, not even the ones racing. So your interpratation is pretty vague. There are cars ready, they just need a purchaser. You don't build a car unless you can run it. For privateer teams the options are there, the funds is the question.
 
No car is fully developed, not even the ones racing. So your interpratation is pretty vague. There are cars ready, they just need a purchaser. You don't build a car unless you can run it. For privateer teams the options are there, the funds is the question.

A car is fully developed when every ounce of performance is extracted from the car. I'd call the Audi R8 fully developed, or the Porsche RS Spyder, or the Audi R15 and it's + variant.
 
A car is fully developed when every ounce of performance is extracted from the car. I'd call the Audi R8 fully developed, or the Porsche RS Spyder, or the Audi R15 and it's + variant.

Corvette C6.R jumps to mind as well. Seems as though it's a bit tired at this point but it sure had its runs despite class and rule changes over the years.
 
Fellow Le-Mans loving GTPers:

I'm looking forward to attending the race next year. I know I have around...11 months until then but I just want to make sure I make everything all right and with enough preparation. Has anybody from here attended the race? Am I in time for making arrangements for next years race? I'm needing some advice in terms of costs, tickets, lodging, etc. Also, I'm open to the possibility of joining or being joined by another GTPer who plans on attending 👍.

Thanks in advance for your answer :gtpflag:
 
Ive been 4 times, including this year. You've definitely left yourself enough time to prepare! Check out travel destinations or 1st tickets for pricing.
 
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