The market is now dead

[Pako]

You haven't done it or profited from it, therefor your opinion is worthless and massively biased.

How does a birthday glitch trading a car ruin the marketplace. It actually does the opposite. There are now more cars on market to trade with/for therefor the marketplace is growing. Plus isn't there only a few cars you actually get by doing the glitch? It's not like you can get every car in the game doing it.

I would somewhat agree. The fact is the market is more saturated with birthday cars than it would be without the glitch. This saturation does create some devaluing of the 'rare' cars as supply increases. Does it kill the market? I would agree with you that it doesn't "kill" it, but it does blemish some of the "special" aspects of a handful of cars.

 

[Steve_Jabroni]

How does it blemish it at all? It's obvious which cars have been glitched - and if someone is claiming to have some expensive car legit, it's easy to add them, check their profile and see their level/races won/% completed.

Secondly, you can trade with people who have not done the glitch - it's easy to tell who has. You can check people's logs, it keeps track of cars they have received - if they are receiving them they glitched them, plain and simple.

 

[Tommy_861]

I can't wait till they find a way to patch the birthday glitch, even if they made it so you can't gift birthday cars. This way specific cars do have value. So someone who earned a P4 can trade it for say 6 or 7 cars, etc etc.

I've only done one trade and it was matte paint to get a Gallardo (very specifically factory black with no miles), a car that was most certainly not glitched. The paint works out better that stuff does have value because its limited and can really only be found or earned.

As for when they allow save backups the easy solution is to tag it to only work with a certain PSN. Once the online aspect is completely up and the fact it seems to track everything even if you were to try to put your backup on another PS3 and dump your cars to someone it would know and when you log back in those cars would still be gone.

 

[Ya Pops]

Is the market place ruined? Sure but I think it's more from the poorly constructed posts with awful spelling and text speak. So there are like 4 or 5 cars that you can get through an exploit if you set the birth year to 1967. That still leaves what? Over a thousand cars that you can still trade.
*snip*

You can do it on every year which can net you a hell of a lot of quality cars if you have the patience.
It's a hell of a grind in it's own right, and I think a lot of the people who haven't tried it (or done it properly) think you just get given a great car on every attempt.

There are still plenty of rare and desirable cars that you can only get from the dealerships though.
The '67 situation did get ridiculous, but it's mainly newer players/members that still think they're worth swapping for, say an FGT.

Btw, twenty nine and a half thousand posts! Wow, now that's grinding

 

[TT3AZ]

I would say thanks to the exploit and shady opportunities, some cars became more valuable. I have traded cars worth 3 times more just to obtain a certain car. If we had auction houses you could actually buy cars instead of glitching expensive cars just to sell them to buy new cars to trade. This process is to time consuming really.

 

[Pako]

How does it blemish it at all? It's obvious which cars have been glitched - and if someone is claiming to have some expensive car legit, it's easy to add them, check their profile and see their level/races won/% completed.

Let me clarify, it blemishes the feeling of value of the trade, not the value of the car in the game.

Secondly, you can trade with people who have not done the glitch - it's easy to tell who has. You can check people's logs, it keeps track of cars they have received - if they are receiving them they glitched them, plain and simple.

I guess I'm not seeing your point here. Everything you are saying here is true, but not following how this is proving your point.

 

[Joey D]

You can do it on every year which can net you a hell of a lot of quality cars if you have the patience.
It's a hell of a grind in it's own right, and I think a lot of the people who haven't tried it (or done it properly) think you just get given a great car on every attempt.

There are still plenty of rare and desirable cars that you can only get from the dealerships though.
The '67 situation did get ridiculous, but it's mainly newer players/members that still think they're worth swapping for, say an FGT.

Btw, twenty nine and a half thousand posts! Wow, now that's grinding

I know you could do it for every year but you would literally just have to grind out the birthday exploit again and again. But hey if that makes you happy then who am I to judge, although I do think if you have that sort of free time then you may need a hobby .

To get the Ferrai I had to go through probably 25 save files before I got it. The only other car I got that I was interested in was the 2D. Those where the only two cars I profited from and now I'm done doing it and off to race them.

And ya. I have a lot of posts, I've been here too long, perhaps I need a new hobby .

 

[TT3AZ]

I can't wait till they find a way to patch the birthday glitch, even if they made it so you can't gift birthday cars. This way specific cars do have value. So someone who earned a P4 can trade it for say 6 or 7 cars, etc etc.

I've only done one trade and it was matte paint to get a Gallardo (very specifically factory black with no miles), a car that was most certainly not glitched. The paint works out better that stuff does have value because its limited and can really only be found or earned.

As for when they allow save backups the easy solution is to tag it to only work with a certain PSN. Once the online aspect is completely up and the fact it seems to track everything even if you were to try to put your backup on another PS3 and dump your cars to someone it would know and when you log back in those cars would still be gone.

Well, as the savegame will be unprotected, exploits and cracks will still be used. Lets say put some million to your account then buy massive ammounts of tuning parts/paints, and then gift them to your main account as there are no regulation for gifting items right? In that case, the exploiters will still have a advantage as the can gift tuningparts/paints to others, and in return get rare cars or stuff. Or they can use all tuning part for them self, and save about 200 000 credits for every car they have while tuning them.

I hope PD wont see what I wrote, the imagination of gifting tuning parts/paints worth millions is tempting

As we see.....we must live with the fact that some will allways exploit the system.

 

[Steve_Jabroni]

My point is people doing the glitch have ZERO effect on those who don't. People who are complaining are coming off as bitter or jealous, which may or may not be the intended effect.

It is extremely easy to trade with one who has not done the glitch, and control whether or not you race them online. Car restrictions, HP restrictions, etc. are all in place to mitigate this effect. Therefore people complaining about the glitch have no reason to do so. It's not like the glitch has any effect on real life; it is merely a preference of those playing the game.

 

[Pako]

And ya. I have a lot of posts, I've been here too long, perhaps I need a new hobby .

Nah, I think you found your calling!

 

[Tommy_861]

Well, as the savegame will be unprotected, exploits and cracks will still be used. Lets say put some million to your account then buy massive ammounts of tuning parts/paints, and then gift them to your main account as there are no regulation for gifting items right? In that case, the exploiters will still have a advantage as the can gift tuningparts/paints to others, and in return get rare cars or stuff. Or they can use all tuning part for them self, and save about 200 000 credits for every car they have while tuning them.

I hope PD wont see what I wrote, the imagination of gifting tuning parts/paints worth millions is tempting

As we see.....we must live with the fact that some will allways exploit the system.

True I forgot about how some jerkoff who knows programming will likely find a way to hack the crap out of the file and change the "required" PSN to whatever you want.

 

[Christian_C]

You haven't done it or profited from it, therefor your opinion is worthless and massively biased.

How does a birthday glitch trading a car ruin the marketplace. It actually does the opposite. There are now more cars on market to trade with/for therefor the marketplace is growing. Plus isn't there only a few cars you actually get by doing the glitch? It's not like you can get every car in the game doing it.

Touche,

My point sounded a little too harsh, still, I believe the birthday glitch has ruined the value of some really special cars here.

Also, the point isn't that you can't get every car by doing it but that you can acquire many of the cars of high value via this method which is unfair on those who work for it and then see those cars turned worthless by a glitch.

 

[daspianist]

Maybe this will help those who are more impaired from realizing the futility of their arguments.

Yes, they are mutually exclusive. One set of the population (exploiters) has no effect on the enjoyment level of another set (non-exploiters)

 

[Steve_Jabroni]

^^^

LOL, perfect, and funny because it is true.

People are just jealous, I really think, because they can't (or more likely, won't) do the glitch, and they don't get to drive the awesome cars some are.

 

[Pako]

My point is people doing the glitch have ZERO effect on those who don't. People who are complaining are coming off as bitter or jealous, which may or may not be the intended effect.

Clearly there is "effect" or this thread wouldn't exist. I agree it doesn't effect their game play, but as I stated earlier, it does change their "feeling" of the value of a car. It can even change their "feeling" of other peoples accomplishments when they state their game's progress ect. How do they know they didn't just use a car they got from the glitch to excel their games progression?

It is extremely easy to trade with one who has not done the glitch, and control whether or not you race them online. Car restrictions, HP restrictions, etc. are all in place to mitigate this effect. Therefore people complaining about the glitch have no reason to do so. It's not like the glitch has any effect on real life; it is merely a preference of those playing the game.

What's the point for someone who earned their cars and progressions in the game to compare with someone who exploited a glitch to achieve superior standings in the game? It personally doesn't effect me, but I can see why other people would be discouraged from even socializing on the topic because this "shortcut".

 

[TT3AZ]

My point is people doing the glitch have ZERO effect on those who don't. People who are complaining are coming off as bitter or jealous, which may or may not be the intended effect.

It is extremely easy to trade with one who has not done the glitch, and control whether or not you race them online. Car restrictions, HP restrictions, etc. are all in place to mitigate this effect. Therefore people complaining about the glitch have no reason to do so. It's not like the glitch has any effect on real life; it is merely a preference of those playing the game.

Well, maybe the people complaining because they think the glitching and trading was taking down the servers, causing lost cars when trading "legally". or maybe they are pissed of seeing less mature playerin in online race have the latest and most expensive cars? Or they are feeling that all the time they spent on one car, could be obtained of 3 minutes work?

All I know,
is that trading is a very important part in nowdays online gaming, if i wasn't
for trading, I wouldn't have so many rare cars as we speaking. We trade and exploit, due to the faulties of the game, and due to the lack of auction house.

 

[sesselpupser]

Despite the fact it helps you get the cars that you want?

Door swings both ways.

Point missed again, I bought the game to play it, as did most people like me, not sit around exploiting it.

 

[Ya Pops]

Notice how the left circle looks happier?

 

[d0cSm1l3Y]

Killa Cali
why are the '67 race cars shunned because they are birthday glitches? They are still needed by everyone and cost 20,000,000 credits. You can birthday glitch any car in the game so why are these less valuable?

They're less valuable because everyone b day glitched the years 67' and 10' (mostly) so the Forum is flooded with them. The higher the supply for a product the less its worth. If you werent part of these forums they'd still be valuable and elusive but alot people on GTPlanet have em so they're common and not special anymore, kinda sad.

Somebody asked me that question in my Thread couldnt find the quote to copy.

 

[4rephotographer]

Did I miss something and glitch cars are worth less than non glitched? They are the same car, and the only reason someone doesn't want to trade for a glitched car is because it wasn't bought. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to grind for $20m just to buy a P4, it's asinine. Let the glitchers glitch and if you don't want a glitched car don't buy one.

 

[Pako]

Notice how the left circle looks happier?

Notice how the right circle appears to be looking down at the left circle?

 

[Joey D]

Point missed again, I bought the game to play it, as did most people like me, not sit around exploiting it.

Except some of want to drive cars and we don't have the time to sit around grinding races to get the funds to buy the cars we want. I bought GT5 to drive decently created virtual recreations of cars I could never afford. Not being able to afford them in the game is too life like. I play video games to get away from real life and be entertained.

 

[Ya Pops]

Point missed again, I bought the game to play it, as did most people like me, not sit around exploiting it.

I think you're missing the point. I too bought the game to play it.

I now get to play with all the cars I wanted to play with.

And to add, which side is coming off as the happier party?

 

[4rephotographer]

Point missed again, I bought the game to play it, as did most people like me, not sit around exploiting it.

I bought the game to drive all the cars in the game, the fun is in driving and racing, not grinding for $20m.

 

[TT3AZ]

True I forgot about how some jerkoff who knows programming will likely find a way to hack the crap out of the file and change the "required" PSN to whatever you want.

First of all, a person who can crack the savegame isn't a jerkoff, he is a person that deserves respect for his knowledge. Second, does I matter for you if he enjoyes the game in the way he likes? As long as hes driving cool in online racing, and don't use speedhack, wallhack etc, I see no problem if he has 500 million credits in his account or millions of tuning parts/paints.

 

[NLxAROSA]

Personally, I don't give a crap about people glitching these cars for their own use. Flooding the market with them and trading them for other peoples honestly-earned cars is a step too far as far as I am concerned. Then again, some people have been quite open about it (or it's really obvious), so you can always decided not to trade with them. 👍

 

[sesselpupser]

^^^

LOL, perfect, and funny because it is true.

People are just jealous, I really think, because they can't (or more likely, won't) do the glitch, and they don't get to drive the awesome cars some are.

If we were jealous we'd do it too, and the fact is I've got most of the cars I want to drive already, I didn't buy the game for the same three 60's race cars everyone is offering to trade everyone else. I have a Formula GT, all the Evos (except those in my sig), all the AE86's, AW11's, SW20's, the 88C-V, Toyota 7... The list goes on to span around 250 cars, only those I listed on my trade thread are the ones I don't want. I gained them all fair and square and they're not cheapened by cheating to get them.

 

[strik3out]

Blame PD for putting too many cars in the game at too high a price with too few events offering too little reward.

Some of us have lives and stuff. We can't all sit there grinding money 24/7.

 

[daspianist]

Notice how the left circle looks happier?

lol .. is it because there are more letters in the left circle?

 

[Ya Pops]

If it were a house party, the right circle would be the kitchen.