The Must Have Upgrade for any Logitech G Wheel Owner

[boabmatic]

Had a blast on GT6 the last few nights..

Can't believe the difference it has made even over the uprated spring that was already in it. The added tension allows you to easy off the brake slightly as it locks up. Now running with abs as 0 rather than 1 previously.

Also moved the clutch spring into the gas pedal which gives a good feel on that pedal too. As I didn't have the original brake pedal had to put the original gas pedal spring in the clutch as I felt the uprated brake spring was too strong in that pedal. Works well tho as there is less resistance so find I miss-shift less now.

Very happy with the mod, well worth the price.

 

[JHB434]

Canada & USA residents;
The GTEYE brake spring is now also available from our Canada & USA stockist “Sigma Racing Time Attack”.
Continental US customers can now order directly from SRTA, and even bundle your purchase with a host of other sim products also available from Sigma Time Attack.

http://www.sigmatimeattack.com/gteye-brake-spring-upgrade-g25-g27/

Thanks for this as it seems the only way to order is through Paypal and I don't trust them due to some questionable emails from them the last two years. I will try to see if I can order from Sigma without using them.

Cheers.

 

[DRambo]

I made a very similar thing. Got a short, firm spring the same diameter and superglued it to the original spring using a UK £1 coin, which was the perfect diameter to hold the two together. Did this about 3 years ago and it's held together just fine.

 

[happywien]

Ordert the GTeye on Friday the 5.9. and received it on Monday in Vienna Austria it was send from France. Installed it yesterday without removing the backside. The removing and repositioning of the spring cover is a little bit tricky, because there is nearly no space between the frame and the cover, but it took for all 3 pedals a couple of minutes. The brake spring is now on the clutch and the clutch spring in the gas pedal.


I drove the Pescarolo hybrid on 24 min on Nürburgring and with more than 10 crashes and won without a problem. The brake is so smooth at the beginning that you don´t crash into the cars in front of you when driving very close behind.


10 rounds Ascari I won also immidiatly.


One thing I realised that you should press the brake and gas pedal completly down at the beginnig fort calibration. If you do not do it the thrength is always different at the beginning, i think this is mentioned in some other threats.


Perfect improvment all its worth all the money.


Greatings from Vienna

 

[Mr P]

Ordered my first G27 which will be delivered tomorrow 👍 will have to see how it feels for the first few days breaking it in as I have only ever used the old momo and dfp and up to now the dfgt... hope this new wheel is the one for me as I'm not sure I would go as far as the money they expect for the t500's, anyway i will come back here and place an order if the new wheel needs some extra springiness

Great thread and explanation in detail

 

[Sergio Carr]

I've just bought a 2nd hand G27 with Load Cell break mod and Leo Bodnar Cable. I'm just using the pedals now, getting used to the load cell which, coming from a very soft spring break (my old MOMO FFB), will take a while. I'm still using my MOMO wheel, since I want to mod the wheel before I replace the old one. all is hard mounted and don't want to screw and uncsrew too much .. I'm thinking of a custumised wheel from Sam Maxwell, what do you guys think?

 

[FLes]

I can confirm that clicking noise some people talked about has nothing to do with GTEYE. I had clicking noise in my brake pedal from the moment I started using my new G27. I could feel it and hear it near the end of the brake pedal travel. After I installed GTEYE spring in my brake, clicking was gone. So GTEYE actually fixed the clicking problem.

 

[fatkrakr]

I can confirm that clicking noise some people talked about has nothing to do with GTEYE. I had clicking noise in my brake pedal from the moment I started using my new G27. I could feel it and hear it near the end of the brake pedal travel. After I installed GTEYE spring in my brake, clicking was gone. So GTEYE actually fixed the clicking problem.

If you have the clicking noise all you need to do is turn the spring in the housing slightly. The clicking comes from the end of the wire used to make the spring catches one of the ridges inside the G27 spring housing.

 

[boabmatic]

Ordered my first G27 which will be delivered tomorrow 👍 will have to see how it feels for the first few days breaking it in as I have only ever used the old momo and dfp and up to now the dfgt... hope this new wheel is the one for me as I'm not sure I would go as far as the money they expect for the t500's, anyway i will come back here and place an order if the new wheel needs some extra springiness

Great thread and explanation in detail

you'll love the G27 compared to the dfp , I made the same switch, its got lots of improvements , one of them is being able to turn the wheel quickly without the sound of sawing wood happening.

 

[Sergio Carr]

you'll love the G27 compared to the dfp , I made the same switch, its got lots of improvements , one of them is being able to turn the wheel quickly without the sound of sawing wood happening.

Since I got my new headphones I don't hear that noise anymore, but I know exactly what you mean

 

[JHB434]

you'll love the G27 compared to the dfp , I made the same switch, its got lots of improvements , one of them is being able to turn the wheel quickly without the sound of sawing wood happening.

Yes, so true. I got my G27 Wednesday and waiting for my GTEye set.

 

[Mr P]

you'll love the G27 compared to the dfp , I made the same switch, its got lots of improvements , one of them is being able to turn the wheel quickly without the sound of sawing wood happening.

I am over the moon with the G27 it is a much more solid feeling wheel and hours of fun 👍 The only downside I have is how close the brake pedal is to the accelerator I keep pressing the clutch at crucial braking points ... would like to remove the clutch and put the brake in the clutch slot to stop the confusion! other than that the wheel is superb and making me enjoy GT again 👍

 

[Dragonwhisky]

The mounting pads under the plates have multiple position threaded holes you can use to spread out the pedals.

 

[r2dc2]

I added a self-made sticker to the piston to let friends know that I'm a proud owner of a GTEYE spring!

 

[Sergio Carr]

that's why I have mine outside the case ... in a DYI plate

 

[JHB434]

that's why I have mine outside the case ... in a DYI plate

Very nicely done Sergio.

 

[MidNightGT]

I know I'm crazy, but I need the opposite

This mod makes the stiffness progressively increase from stock stiff

Is it possible for a spring that is progressively stiff up to stock stiff.

I like the progressive spring, but lose a lot of precision in having to push the pedal so hard

 

[GTEYE]

I know I'm crazy, but I need the opposite

This mod makes the stiffness progressively increase from stock stiff

Is it possible for a spring that is progressively stiff up to stock stiff.

I like the progressive spring, but lose a lot of precision in having to push the pedal so hard

It`s possible, but I don`t know of anyone who makes it. For a softer brake pedal you could try swapping your clutch and brake springs.

 

[MidNightGT]

It`s possible, but I don`t know of anyone who makes it. For a softer brake pedal you could try swapping your clutch and brake springs.

Thanks, clutch springs not progressive, I dont want softer overall, just progressive feel, and less roaming pedals lol Ill give it a few weeks

 

[GTEYE]

Thanks, clutch springs not progressive, I dont want softer overall, just progressive feel, and less roaming pedals lol Ill give it a few weeks

If you have any way to reposition the pedals or tilt, a different seating position can help to adjust the strength required to use the brake pedal. Alternatively a set of pedal extensions can make the overall feel softer.

 

[MidNightGT]

If you have any way to reposition the pedals or tilt, a different seating position can help to adjust the strength required to use the brake pedal. Alternatively a set of pedal extensions can make the overall feel softer.

Thanks, Im not all sure what you mean.

I don't exactly want softer, just the addition of progressiveness. I want the same amount of weight to fully compress the spring, just progressive not linear. I want this so I feel a progressive increase in the pedal resistance/weight as I push the pedal giving each amount of application a unique feel. The stock pedal is stiff enough, its just the pedal always feels the same no matter where it is.

How would I go about getting a spring made or finding a spring from something else that will work is my problem. Further complicated by me wanting the same thing (not the same spring) for the clutch pedal, the throttle is fine as is, nothing I feel I need to mess with.

Would you happen to have the springs measurements and specs? That will help my search

 

[GTEYE]

Thanks, Im not all sure what you mean.

I don't exactly want softer, just the addition of progressiveness. I want the same amount of weight to fully compress the spring, just progressive not linear. I want this so I feel a progressive increase in the pedal resistance/weight as I push the pedal giving each amount of application a unique feel. The stock pedal is stiff enough, its just the pedal always feels the same no matter where it is.

How would I go about getting a spring made or finding a spring from something else that will work is my problem. Further complicated by me wanting the same thing (not the same spring) for the clutch pedal, the throttle is fine as is, nothing I feel I need to mess with.

Would you happen to have the springs measurements and specs? That will help my search

I don`t make one-off custom springs, but you could try experimenting with different materials inside your original spring, you could swap the brake and clutch spring to have a softer beginning rate in the brake, then a rubber or foam insert to replicate the progression, its not ideal but it might suffice for your needs. The inside diameter of the coil is about 19mm, you could also try a shorter left hand wound coil inside the original, but this could be troublesome and noisy.

What I was referring to above was if you had the GTEYE spring, you could soften the entire setup with pedal extensions or adjusting your seating position, its not often that people want a softer brake pedal, which it would have to be if you want progression but not stiffer than original.

Keep in mind that the GTEYE spring starts out the same stiffness as the original, with the rate rising +80% at full compression.

 

[Jack33]

Hi, any more thoughts on producing a dedicated accelerator/gas spring I would be very interested in this, swapping the clutch spring works ok but is that little too stiff...

 

[Mayaman]

I know I'm crazy, but I need the opposite

This mod makes the stiffness progressively increase from stock stiff

Is it possible for a spring that is progressively stiff up to stock stiff.

I like the progressive spring, but lose a lot of precision in having to push the pedal so hard

CENTURYSPRINGS . COM is what you want. I get all my custom springs from them. Just an FYI you have to order $50 worth for them to make anything for you, but that is a low price for custom work.

 

[jl1101]

Is $29.95 in USD or AUD?

 

[TriBum]

Is $29.95 in USD or AUD?

It is AUD29.95 or about USD25. Kristian made every effort to get the spring to me by Christmas. I am extremely happy with the improved feel of the brake pedal. In Assetto Corsa I am less likely to lock up and trail braking is more consistent. My lap times at Spa in the Ferrari 458 GT2 improved by 4 seconds a lap in only a few laps. Prior to the spring I had hit a plateau despite countless hours of practice. The improvement in Richard Burns Rally is even greater with considerably better braking precision. In order to get a better brake feel I had resorted to DXTweak2 to remap the pedal; After the spring I was able to reset everything to default and now have better resolution and consistency. Quite honestly if you have a G25 or G27 and have reached a point where you wonder if the other guys are cheating...just buy this spring.

 

[jl1101]

Happy new year! Looks like this is the first post in this thread in 2015. Just received my GTEye after work. It took 8 days to get here. (I'm in east Asia but somehow the package shipped from France instead of Australia). Installation was easy. The quality of the product is really nice but I do hear a click noise in the brake pedal as pointed out by some reviewers. After a few laps in Nordschleife on GT6, overall I am happy with the product. As someone who tended to overbrake, with GTEye, my braking control has improved quite a bit on corners which require only soft braking. Hard braking after long straights has also improved but with a harder brake pedal, H&T down shifting has been more difficult because I keep loosening my braking when trying to move my foot to blip the throttle, which initially resulted in me entering some corners too fast without sufficient braking but I think I am getting more used to it after a couple of laps. Btw, I really enjoy the stock brake spring in the clutch pedal. I keep using the stock throttle spring since the stock clutch spring shortens the travel of the gas pedal too much. I would really appreciate a gas spring from GTEye =]. Overall, for me, as a beginner in sim racing, I can't say this product would drastically change the experience that much as some other reviewers have suggested. However, given the price and the nice customer service, I do think it really enhances the realism of my G27 and I would agree that it is "The Must Have Upgrade for any Logitech G25 & G27 Owner".

 

[teth75]

Just installed this and with Assetto Corsa it vastly improves braking! I did swap the clutch/Accelerate out too but the accelerate was just to stiff. Clutch is good with the old brake spring though so kept that. Well happy with a good product, would recommend to anybody who enjoys abs free driving but struggles with lock ups.

 

[VBR]

Got a question.

What mod is stiffer, the NIXIM or the GTEYE?

Please answer only if you've tried both, thanks.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

I have the GT Eye on my brake pedal and tried the NIXIM on a buddy's. The NIXIM is stiffer but the feedback is still dead weight.