The new GT5 DLC just fails to deliver

[Pagey279]

What BF3, and many other game are doing, is utter BS!
They charge you the price of the retail game for map packs and weapon skins. That's pathetic. Adding a real world track or car to GT5 (or other racing games) costs money, as the developer has to aqquire the license to use the track/car. Thus it's necessary for the devs/puplishers to ask for money for such content. The fact that we occasionally get free cars, is amazing in its own right.

Creating a small map (like in the BF and CoD franchise) doesn't cost a whole lot of money. On top of that, the majority of maps released as DLC have some of the most generic and atrocious design, ever.

I can certianly agree that the price of Motegi is too high (espicially given the price of the Spa DLC), but it's nowhere near as bad as other franchises.

And to those who complain about the car. How on earth were you people raised? Complaining about something you get for free? It's okay to complain about DLC prices. In fact, it can be downright necessary to do so, so to prevent devs/puplishers from taking advantage of consumers. But complaining about stuff you get for free, is just wrong. Even if you don't like the content (which is of course fine), you still got it for free. You didn't lose anything, nor were you required to do any work for it.

In the case of the rebadged Toyota, it's obviously a puplicity stunt to try and get some sales going for the US version of the 86. It's safe to assume that the car didn't take the place of any other car.

And on a final note. You might not like having the option to take old cars like the Kubelwagon out for a spin. But some of us do. It's a car that has real historic value. That alone, means it has a palce in the GT car library. It's not all about driving fast you know.

Well said 👍 Couldn't have put it better myself

 

[awr117]

The free car is obviously a marketing deal with Toyota.

Motegi is a great track. 100% blows Cart Space and that Test Track out of the water. Those complaining just need to stop. Your rants aren't going to change a thing. At this point you guys are just sounding like little crying kids.

 

[ripcurl]

weak low hp car thats a replica of an existing car in the game

the new track is ok

i hate to compare it but forza 4 has had some awesome dlc car packs

step up gt5

 

[A7X_GT5]

What BF3, and many other game are doing, is utter BS!
They charge you the price of the retail game for map packs and weapon skins. That's pathetic. Adding a real world track or car to GT5 (or other racing games) costs money, as the developer has to aqquire the license to use the track/car. Thus it's necessary for the devs/puplishers to ask for money for such content. The fact that we occasionally get free cars, is amazing in its own right.

Creating a small map (like in the BF and CoD franchise) doesn't cost a whole lot of money. On top of that, the majority of maps released as DLC have some of the most generic and atrocious design, ever.

I can certianly agree that the price of Motegi is too high (espicially given the price of the Spa DLC), but it's nowhere near as bad as other franchises.

And to those who complain about the car. How on earth were you people raised? Complaining about something you get for free? It's okay to complain about DLC prices. In fact, it can be downright necessary to do so, so to prevent devs/puplishers from taking advantage of consumers. But complaining about stuff you get for free, is just wrong. Even if you don't like the content (which is of course fine), you still got it for free. You didn't lose anything, nor were you required to do any work for it.

In the case of the rebadged Toyota, it's obviously a puplicity stunt to try and get some sales going for the US version of the 86. It's safe to assume that the car didn't take the place of any other car.

And on a final note. You might not like having the option to take old cars like the Kubelwagon out for a spin. But some of us do. It's a car that has real historic value. That alone, means it has a palce in the GT car library. It's not all about driving fast you know.

First of all,Premium it's not all about guns and skins.You get every DLC for free,with 2 week early access and a bunch of new features
Secondly,license?PD already has the license for Motegi,since it was included in GT4
They didn't scan the track!All they did is upgrade the existing one in GT4.It doesn't look nowhere near as good as Spa.
Also,yes,we are complaining about a free car,because they could've worked on the new M5,instead they gave us a re-badged Toyota with new interiors and small exterior changes
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[sgllocal]

PD's motto is

1 step forward 2 steps back

this latest DLC is rubbish compared to what we have had and also other games. i agree with A7X as i too am BF3 premium member, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. no need to bitch at others just because we dont like the DLC. this is a forum where we voice opinions

 

[Squach240]

I gotta ask, what's the appeal of DLC anyways? Why do so many want it? Turn 10 releases monthly car packs and people praise that and buy it, releasing cars that have been modelled for quite some time, and it seems people are completely blind to that, Turn 10 aren't stupid, they know as soon as someone sees the new M5 or Veyron that they just have to have it, thus more money for them and Microsoft, and people will continue to buy their DLC even though a portion of those cars were probably modeled before the game wad released, if not shortly after. Turn 10 aren't the only bad ones here, just about every developer today has the DLC bug because they know people are "sheep" enough to buy it. This goes for Turn 10, PD, COD, etc. They'll release a free car, map, etc every once and awhile so we don't get suspicious.

It's bait to most people on this site I seem to see. It's gotten to the point where people are now spoiled for it, demand it, and like you said, be "sheep." However, like SimonK stated, it is an option. Turn10 do it a different way. Like they did with the Port Porsche pack. Didn't release a free car, so now everyone who didn't shove out the $20 extra bucks everyone sees the filler car. Turn10, Treyarch, etc.... they see where the money is, and they have their sheep hearded.

I still wish we had the "expansion" full game pack days. I remember when gaming was calm, fun, and not crammed full of complaining.

Also,yes,we are complaining about a free car,because they could've worked on the new M5,instead they gave us a re-badged Toyota with new interiors and small exterior changes
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This car has existed way earlier since it's debut trailer December. Do you not remember the trailer? But the glory of it is, you don't really know what they're working on. Considering it's a small portion of the team of PD even still supporting this game. Breathe man.

 

[lilcat89]

First of all,Premium it's not all about guns and skins.You get every DLC for free,with 2 week early access and a bunch of new features
Secondly,license?PD already has the license for Motegi,since it was included in GT4
They didn't scan the track!All they did is upgrade the existing one in GT4.It doesn't look nowhere near as good as Spa.
Also,yes,we are complaining about a free car,because they could've worked on the new M5,instead they gave us a re-badged Toyota with new interiors and small exterior changes
👎👎👎

The licenses do not roll over to later games. Been covered for an eternity now. Considering that Motegi was one of the most damaged parts of Japan from the tsunamis, I think it is great that we have it at all. You are getting twice the tracks as the Spa DLC. In the GT Academy event, the track looked just as good, and in some places better, that Spa does. Quit whining over every little thing. If you dont like it, dont play it. Simple as that. And yes, I have read through this thread. Just be glad that PD has supported the game for the last 2 years, whereas most games lose support after about a year.

 

[Jawehawk]

First of all,Premium it's not all about guns and skins.You get every DLC for free,with 2 week early access and a bunch of new features
Secondly,license?PD already has the license for Motegi,since it was included in GT4
They didn't scan the track!All they did is upgrade the existing one in GT4.It doesn't look nowhere near as good as Spa.
Also,yes,we are complaining about a free car,because they could've worked on the new M5,instead they gave us a re-badged Toyota with new interiors and small exterior changes
👎👎👎

Uhmm.. Hehe. The price you pay for Premium, is what you're paying for the DLC's mate. You don't get them for free... You just pay for them ahead of time.

PD had the license to use the track in GT4, yes. Your point? PD having the license to use it in GT4, is not the same as having the license to use it for GT5. Seeing as it wasn't included until now, we can assume they didn't have the license to include it until now. This is all quite obvious. I can't comment about the graphics of the new track, as I haven't driven on it. Even then, PD needs to get some kind of money for the track, as they had to use money to aqquire the license for the track. And as I've already stated, I do agree on the price being too high.

And to the last part of your comment. just no.... You completely failed to understand what I said in my previous comment. PD didn't choose the Scion 86, over any other car. If we didn't get the Scion, we'd get nothing. It's a puplicity stunt! The new Scion has nothing what so ever to do with PD aqquirering licenses to other cars. They didn't choose one car, over the other.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I can but i First want to say that i just answer his question and DON'T want to Turn this in a VS- Thread.

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and more.

Well back 2 topic.

But aren't those free cars... Okay I don't want this thread turning into a, you know what. The Viper yes, those other ones are different...

My guess is the free cars are for promotional purposes and perhaps the manufacturers pay pd to put them in the game.

This is just a guess but it fits even if I'm wrong.

Now this is understanding. 👍 I believe it is a promotional purpose. Because Turn 10 did the same thing too with the Viper. But complainers won't understand though.

 

[cuco33]

For me I'm fine with it. I don't think $5 is too much although compared to what we got with Spa (w/weather) and 2 Space Kart tracks I can see the argument. Still, it's a new track to the game even if touched up HD style and carried over from GT4. I like the track, not my favorite but it's a new track we can race/time trial on.

The free car is free. Yes, it's rebadged and I doubt much work was put in for it. Yes, I'd vastly prefer many many other cars or even some premium conversions but it's free.

It is what it is folks. If you don't like it at all, vote with your wallets.

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

Having not read the whole thread (Mostly based on the fact im lazy) It may have already been pointed out but don't you think adding a new manufacturer into the game for 1 car would be abit daft so perhaps and this is just a shot in the dark maybe PD will add some more Scion models in future ?.

There are several new car dealerships with only one or even two cars. Though, I see how you came to that conclusion, logically speaking.

 

[A7X_GT5]

Uhmm.. Hehe. The price you pay for Premium, is what you're paying for the DLC's mate. You don't get them for free... You just pay for them ahead of time.

PD had the license to use the track in GT4, yes. Your point? PD having the license to use it in GT4, is not the same as having the license to use it for GT5. Seeing as it wasn't included until now, we can assume they didn't have the license to include it until now. This is all quite obvious. I can't comment about the graphics of the new track, as I haven't driven on it. Even then, PD needs to get some kind of money for the track, as they had to use money to aqquire the license for the track. And as I've already stated, I do agree on the price being too high.

And to the last part of your comment. just no.... You completely failed to understand what I said in my previous comment. PD didn't choose the Scion 86, over any other car. If we didn't get the Scion, we'd get nothing. It's a puplicity stunt! The new Scion has nothing what so ever to do with PD aqquirering licenses to other cars. They didn't choose one car, over the other.

You also get 10 new weapons,skins,previews,gaming tips from the devs,a knew knife,double XP weekends and much more.Now that's what I call a bang for my buck,not just a bland track!
Anyway let's not turn this into a Battlefield 3 vs GT5 thread

 

[Jawehawk]

You also get 10 new weapons,skins,previews,gaming tips from the devs,a knew knife,double XP weekends and much more.Now that's what I call a bang for my buck,not just a bland track!
Anyway let's not turn this into a Battlefield 3 vs GT5 thread

You're missing the point. A new weapon is just a new set of stats and a new skin. This costs next to nothing to make. Previews and gaming tips cost nothing to make. A new knife model is again a new skin, and double XP is just... Bah. Ever heard of "pay to win"? None of that justifies any kind of payment. It's very little work, and even less money, to make those things.

My entire point of why PD/Sony, HAS to charge money for including real cars/tracks, is because they have to spend money to get those cars/tracks. Not just in moddeling them, but in aqquiring the licenses. That's the key difference.

But again. it would be nice to see some consistency in the pricing of DLC's. PD is getting flak for Motegi costing more than Spa, and rightfully so.

 

[TokoTurismo]

The reason that people are complaining is that they could've spent their working potential(the interiors are different,so are some exterior parts)ON A NEW ****ING CAR!

It doesn't matter. Theres a reason why this cars is in the game anyways, so please read through the section of comments and you may get it and understand the reason...

 

[Blitz24]

You also get 10 new weapons,skins,previews,gaming tips from the devs,a knew knife,double XP weekends and much more.Now that's what I call a bang for my buck,not just a bland track!
Anyway let's not turn this into a Battlefield 3 vs GT5 thread

So you will gleefully spend $50 ahead of time on a game that in theory could only have one or two DLC releases, skins (which if the game has accessible code, but not on PS3, can be created on their own), weapons (ooh, will this help me kill people more effectively or is it just a re-skinned weapon), previews (which would also be available online), gaming tips from the developers (akin to paying people to give you crossword puzzle answers), a knew knife (what does it know?) and double XP weekends (since I don't care about the game its meaningless). All of which were probably withheld from the game to begin with.

The DLC is NOT MADE JUST FOR YOU. It is a collection of what PD believes the GT5 community would most appreciate. Don't like it, don't buy it. Looks like you're complaining about spending more money that you don't have while on the other side you put down significant money to play other things.

A gaming company does NOT have to be upfront about what they are doing and they should never have to be because it is a company, not something for the public to have their hands on 24/7. Who knows how much of PD is working on DLC or working on GT6, it doesn't matter even. I look at it from the aspect that I am being offered something new that I can choose to buy or not, but I will not go and say "this sucks" or "PD is stupid" because they aren't catering to ME.

 

[alex291190]

£3.99...

My dinner tonight will cost £4.90.

You are paying less than having a delivery from a Chinese.. The DLC will last a bit longer as well.

 

[Vegard]

I sometimes question the intelligence of people who have played GT5 for a substantial amount of time and still expect to get great updates / events / DLC every time.

It happens, occasionally.

Just like a blind chicken can find corn, PD can get things right.

Seriously though I have come to expect of PD nothing more than half baked stuff.
This way I get a pleasant surprise from time to time when they actually do things the way I like.
If I expected great stuff all the time I'd probably be making threads like this.

 

[abigor]

This DLC is really disappointed. I don't understand all this fanboys who says PD has done a great job end bla bla bla !!!!. I love this game too but look at Forza... they dont have a big forum like this end still they get all this great DLC. Forza developers know what people "really want"

 

[analog]

And many others would have prefered another car.

So, which car would the community prefer?

A premium RUF OR a premium Pagani OR a premium E30 M3 OR... 2 premium Suzuki Cappucinos AND Kübel/Schwimmwagen AND 2 premium Toyota Prius (one as DLC!) AND a premium Nissan Leaf...

Which option would the majority of the community prefer?

It's funny how the community has turned into little Kazunori bots and admire every car that he has put in the game.I'd like dhe Kubel/Schwimmwagen,but IN THE ****ING MUSEUM NOT IN THE ****ING CAR LIST!
Premium RUFs and Paganis?Son,on what drug are you on?It's Kaz we're talking about,the next premium car I bet my ballsack that it'll be GT-R Black Edition '13 US release!

Isn't it possible some actually like driving a Kubel/Schwimmwagen (or Prius/Leaf heaven forbid) without being a 'Kaz bot'?
Oh yeah, they're not part of 'the majority' who only seem to want cars serving the same high-performance purpose/criteria despite the Premium car selection already (unlike GT5's predecessors) disproportionally consisting of supercars compared to ordinary cars.
I can understand singling out duplicates or dull, bland or frankly insignificant cars but why these 2 characteristic oddball cars are always mentioned first when they actually do add something to the game for those who appreciate variety (which includes supercars, etc.) or just these particular cars escapes me to be honest.

 

[A7X_GT5]

So you will gleefully spend $50 ahead of time on a game that in theory could only have one or two DLC releases, skins (which if the game has accessible code, but not on PS3, can be created on their own), weapons (ooh, will this help me kill people more effectively or is it just a re-skinned weapon), previews (which would also be available online), gaming tips from the developers (akin to paying people to give you crossword puzzle answers), a knew knife (what does it know?) and double XP weekends (since I don't care about the game its meaningless). All of which were probably withheld from the game to begin with.

The DLC is NOT MADE JUST FOR YOU. It is a collection of what PD believes the GT5 community would most appreciate. Don't like it, don't buy it. Looks like you're complaining about spending more money that you don't have while on the other side you put down significant money to play other things.

A gaming company does NOT have to be upfront about what they are doing and they should never have to be because it is a company, not something for the public to have their hands on 24/7. Who knows how much of PD is working on DLC or working on GT6, it doesn't matter even. I look at it from the aspect that I am being offered something new that I can choose to buy or not, but I will not go and say "this sucks" or "PD is stupid" because they aren't catering to ME.

There are gonna be 5 DLC releases,2 of which have already been released
Each DLC has 5 new maps(believe me,some of them are worth the premium price alone) and new vehicles to keep the game fresh
Now that's what I call DLC
as for PD,as I've said for the millionth time,I loved the previous DLCs and bought them all day one(yes,even the paint chips),but this one is just disappointing after 5 months of no new content.God I've said this sooo many times by now

 

[vwpilot]

I think the biggest complaint is not as much about the money or complaining about a free car as much as what the DLC isnt.

I'd be happy to pay for good content. If PD had brought out a track pack that had 5 tracks from past GTs in it and charged $15 I bet more people would have been thrilled to throw their money at PD. But one track after a long wait just seems like a band aid and a money grab knowing GT5 users are desperate for content.

I'm not complaining about the car, I just find it a waste. Again, if PD gave us 10 new, exciting cars and threw in the Scion on top of it and charged us $15 I bet people would have jumped on the chance to buy it.

Its about the amount of content and the quality of the content that people are getting upset about. Give us good content, give us good options and then people will feel a lot better about opening up their wallets to pay for it. At least you'll feel like PD is listening and cares about what they're charging us for.

As it seems right now, its like they're just trying to take the absolute easiest way out and grab a few bucks on top of it.

 

[cuco33]

But aren't those free cars... Okay I don't want this thread turning into a, you know what. The Viper yes, those other ones are different...

Actually they are free. Every DLC pack that FM4 has, except for the Porsche expansion pack, has a free car download. The free car download loads the other models so if you go online you will see the DLC cars and not a ghosted mk4 Jetta/Bora.
The Hyundai Veloster and new Viper cars were completely free DLC w/Autovista models even. I think the BMW F10 M5 was also a freebie also.

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

Where I grew up and who brought me up taught me this: If you can't appreciate what you're given, you get nothing at all. This entitlement generation makes me sick.

 

[Blitz24]

There are gonna be 5 DLC releases,2 of which have already been released
Each DLC has 5 new maps(believe me,some of them are worth the premium price alone) and new vehicles to keep the game fresh
Now that's what I call DLC
as for PD,as I've said for the millionth time,I loved the previous DLCs and bought them all day one(yes,even the paint chips),but this one is just disappointing after 5 months of no new content.God I've said this sooo many times by now

Nope, a "new map" would never be worth $50 to me. And how many DLC have been released for GT5 now? 5? Has the game also had numerous updates?

You've also cursed, said you don't have any money and complained about the cost and also bragged that you spent so much money on other games. If you don't like it, don't play it. Life is too short to spend hours on end complaining.

 

[TokoTurismo]

So you will gleefully spend $50 ahead of time on a game that in theory could only have one or two DLC releases, skins (which if the game has accessible code, but not on PS3, can be created on their own), weapons (ooh, will this help me kill people more effectively or is it just a re-skinned weapon), previews (which would also be available online), gaming tips from the developers (akin to paying people to give you crossword puzzle answers), a knew knife (what does it know?) and double XP weekends (since I don't care about the game its meaningless). All of which were probably withheld from the game to begin with.

The DLC is NOT MADE JUST FOR YOU. It is a collection of what PD believes the GT5 community would most appreciate. Don't like it, don't buy it. Looks like you're complaining about spending more money that you don't have while on the other side you put down significant money to play other things.

A gaming company does NOT have to be upfront about what they are doing and they should never have to be because it is a company, not something for the public to have their hands on 24/7. Who knows how much of PD is working on DLC or working on GT6, it doesn't matter even. I look at it from the aspect that I am being offered something new that I can choose to buy or not, but I will not go and say "this sucks" or "PD is stupid" because they aren't catering to ME.

I'm starting to see he'll spend $50 for other games and won't complain about it. But GT5, its somehow the problem. Are you serious?

Actually they are free. Every DLC pack that FM4 has, except for the Porsche expansion pack, has a free car download. The free car download loads the other models so if you go online you will see the DLC cars and not a ghosted mk4 Jetta/Bora.
The Hyundai Veloster and new Viper cars were completely free DLC w/Autovista models even. I think the BMW F10 M5 was also a freebie also.

I know. I just thought both the Veloster and Viper were both special promotional purposes. Its also understandable that they have their own autovista. I think the BMW M5 was free if one bought the LCE.

 

[Blitz24]

I'm starting to see he'll spend $50 from other games and won't complain about it. But GT5, its somehow the problem. Are you serious?

Was that a post of sarcasm to me or to the OP?

 

[sumbrownkid]

What do people expect for $5? What can you get for $5 that is worthwhile anymore?

You can't even get two gallons of gas for $5.

 

[Griffith500]

PD's motto is

1 step forward 2 steps back

this latest DLC is rubbish compared to what we have had and also other games. i agree with A7X as i too am BF3 premium member, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. no need to bitch at others just because we dont like the DLC. this is a forum where we voice opinions

Wait, what the hell does BF3's premium "service" have to do with one-time cost DLC?


As for what the DLC isn't, I can't say how disappointed I am that it isn't a cute girl with a cheeky smile and a twinkle in her eye. Every day I'm disappointed about that. Damn you PD.
Hey, I'll just start the cycle over again and look forward to the next batch. More fool me.

But then I can't help but remember that comment Kaz made after the first DLC: (paraphrased somewhat heavily) "Wait, you want to give me more money?"
I guess, like me, he cannot fathom the desire to pay so much over the odds for content that will be in the next game anyway. Then again, I guess there's the "fear" that GT6 will be a long time coming, too. That doesn't bother me, though, maybe because I was hardened by the gaming industry's youthful times; now we're all just novelty whores.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Was that a post of sarcasm to me or to the OP?

The OP. Sorry if you thought I meant you.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Where I grew up and who brought me up taught me this: If you can't appreciate what you're given, you get nothing at all. This entitlement generation makes me sick.

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