The Nissan GTR LMP reviews and discussion thread. WITH POLL!

[godlameroso]

Well LeMans qualifying just finished, the fastest Nissan did a 3:38 at the real track. I wonder if it could really do 3:24 in real life like the cheating alien that did the fastest lap online.

Edit: BTW isn't gold a 3:37?

 

[coryclifford]

Yes, 3:37 is the Gold time.

 

[MCNAGTROC]

yup pretty spot on prediction for the Gold trophy. but with that said it did it without hybrid power which the in game car has so that skews it a bit

 

[sk8er913]

Well LeMans qualifying just finished, the fastest Nissan did a 3:38 at the real track. I wonder if it could really do 3:24 in real life like the cheating alien that did the fastest lap online.

Edit: BTW isn't gold a 3:37?

I thought the fastest one was a 3:40... and the other 2 got a 3:41...

The bad news is... it under-steers like crazy and the weight distribution is a disaster.

It does not understeer if you drive it properly. It actually it oversteers a lot too, but without the spin. And the weight distribution is perfect.

Anyone that says 50/50 weight distribution is the best doesn't actually know what they are talking about.

 

[lTwiSparkle]

Ah poor Nissan! Do hope they collect any and all data they need from the entire Le Mans process this year, because it looks like the race day may be an interesting time for the GTR LM
I hope their prediction of being a 2016 challenger comes true, yes! They seem really passionate about making this project work

 

[sk8er913]

Ah poor Nissan! Do hope they collect any and all data they need from the entire Le Mans process this year, because it looks like the race day may be an interesting time for the GTR LM
I hope their prediction of being a 2016 challenger comes true, yes! They seem really passionate about making this project work

At this point I just hope they can beat LMP2. lol. Starting to remind me of the Mazda Skyactive diesel LMP2 in IMSA. Its several seconds off pace and they always seem to break around the 12 hour mark.

 

[godlameroso]

The car needs work, it's not where it can be, not at all. Let's see if a year of development helps them make something that can challenge.

 

[Dylan]

I can't find any info anywhere. how did they do in yesterdays free run?

 

[Frode]

I can't find any info anywhere. how did they do in yesterdays free run?

They were way off the pace. Over 20 seconds during first quallifying.

 

[crooky369]

At this point I just hope they can beat LMP2. lol. Starting to remind me of the Mazda Skyactive diesel LMP2 in IMSA. Its several seconds off pace and they always seem to break around the 12 hour mark.

12 minute mark!

The Mazda is still comfortably the bigger joke of a car for me.

 

[Buck-O]

Ah poor Nissan! Do hope they collect any and all data they need from the entire Le Mans process this year, because it looks like the race day may be an interesting time for the GTR LM
I hope their prediction of being a 2016 challenger comes true, yes! They seem really passionate about making this project work

A year of development will make a big difference. They had massive set backs at the start of the program. A dodgy gearbox that had to be switched to a different manufacturer. The failed FIA crush test, that cost them a chassis, and set all their testing bask until they fixed it. Then they broke a chassis at Sebring during testing, which set them back again. So already they lost over a month of testing just from chassis failure. Then they had the Flybrid problems, and had to ditch the whole rear hybrid drive system, and drop from their wanted 8MJ, to a much lower 2MJ, and through the front wheels only. Which also required a switch to 18" front wheels to accommodate the larger brakes needed to compensate for the lower kinetic harvesting of the 2MJ system, which also meant new spindles, and slightly altered suspension geometry, which meant any of the previous data became instantly irrelevant. Setting them back even further.

Its really been a series of unexpected setbacks because of component failures completely out of their control.

Add to that the fact that they have absolutely zero baselines on which to tackle setup from, and you can see why they are so off pace. Its like trying to run an olympic marathon, after doing a couple of 5k runs at a slow jog. Oh, and for the marathon, youve got a pair of brand new shoes too, so everything is different. My hat is off to their dedication. And if they can get within 10-15 seconds on race pace, they will be in good shape, and be worth paying attention to in the coming years. Because if they can manage to get close enough with what is, arguably, a completely hobbled car, they will be very competitive with one that is working as intended.

 

[super_gt]

The virtual GT6 Nissan GTR LMP is ''only'' 14 seconds faster per lap than the real Nissan GTR LMP

 

[MCNAGTROC]

fastest lap today was 3:36.995 which is exactly enough for them to win the Gold Trophy.

 

[kogunenjou]

Honestly, the more I drive the car, the more I like it. The first five laps or so, it was an absolute handful, but now, I think it's a car I'll employ regularly. I'm going to give it a 5!

 

[scarecrow937]

I didn't run gt academy while it was open this year, is it too late to still earn the free cars?

 

[Rotorist]

I didn't run gt academy while it was open this year, is it too late to still earn the free cars?

Go ahead. I half an hour you will have some nice cars for free and several million credits too in stock.

 

[JayOTT]

The virtual GT6 Nissan GTR LMP is ''only'' 14 seconds faster per lap than the real Nissan GTR LMP

Credit where credit is due, it's 12 seconds now and apparently they still don't have the hybrid system working (can anyone source where that information came from because I can't find it online...)

Still, it just compounds onto what has been a poor motor-sporting year for the Japanese, at least in the higher levels. Honda returned to F1 only to find themselves off the pace and only just avoiding the dreaded back-marker tag. Toyota have made an abysmal start to their WEC title defence and it doesn't look like it's going to get any better at Le Mans. And Nissan... their lack of performance at Le Mans is laughable. Even considering the fact that this is a very unconventional car design in it's first year of development, not even making the 110% lap time as a factory entry is ridiculous.

As for the GT academy event, my lap time is now a 3:31.730 and I've gone as fast as 348 km/h down the first section of the Mulsanne straight. There's a lot of time to be gained once you realise just how much grip the Nissan LM P1 car has in high-speed corners in the game, something that isn't immediately apparent since most of the lap is low-speed corners that are difficult to navigate because of the low-speed understeer.

 

[Aero2000]

It's a pain to drive even the computer have a big problem with it on some tracks.... AND they are bad in real-life too, they are way to deep down in the results list in Le Mans 24h ...

 

[NixxxoN]

Been a massive disappointment as I thought. 18-19 seconds off the pace.

 

[Ryk]

Imagine if all the proper cars had had accidents and terminal mechanical failures at LeMans today and this ugly runt had actually won... (Still time I guess!)

Does the FWD Nismo GTR LMP have working leader lights. just noticed the Zytek LMP2 car does.


No it doesn't and the front LED's flash like it is has two photographers trapped where the lamps should be.

 

[HKS racer]

How to describe this car in a few words? It is a "jumping brick".
Front suspensions are the worst thing of this virtual car. Yes it has 65% weight ratio on front end but still, at speed and when slowing down it's like driving an old bus with crossbows... offroad!

Porsche curves aren't as bad as I was expecting, car is surprisingly stable and doesn't understeer like mad but accelleration out of slow corners is ...OMG, on slow corners this car become the worst thing I've ever driven in Gran Turismo since Jay Leno Thank Car.

I didn't run gt academy while it was open this year, is it too late to still earn the free cars?

Your times won't be calculated for leaderboards but you can still enter the event. But you need to hurry up It will finish tomorrow.

 

[jontikis]

How to describe this car in a few words? It is a "jumping brick".
Front suspensions are the worst thing of this virtual car. Yes it has 65% weight ratio on front end but still, at speed and when slowing down it's like driving an old bus with crossbows... offroad!

Porsche curves aren't as bad as I was expecting, car is surprisingly stable and doesn't understeer like mad but accelleration out of slow corners is ...OMG, on slow corners this car become the worst thing I've ever driven in Gran Turismo since Jay Leno Thank Car.

If you say all of these for a ~650 hp FF LMP car, I'm weird to see what would you say if we had the 1000+ hp version with its hybrid system
Btw, the car isn't really bad. Instead, it made me work more time with it to improve its setup, which is very unusual for the most of the cars

 

[HKS racer]

If you say all of these for a ~650 hp FF LMP car, I'm weird to see what would you say if we had the 1000+ hp version with the hybrid system

Well that could have been a lot better since it should have been basically a 1000hp 4WD car, yes with still 65% weight on the front but probably with much less understeer on slow corners.

 

[PowerSlide77]

That car is a joke.

 

[t_wilson01]

I managed to watch a little of the Nissan stream yesterday and noticed how much smoother the track is in reality than in GT6. It's not even close.

Too bad for Nissan and the poor showing they had. I was about to say a few negative things about their FF LMP1 program, but decided to shut my mouth after reading @Buck-O's post about the setbacks they suffered. Wish them better luck next year.

 

[HKS racer]

I managed to watch a little of the Nissan stream yesterday and noticed how much smoother the track is in reality than in GT6. It's not even close.

Maybe with this car PD didn't get the FFB right. And it's possible since it's completely new concept, not easy to simulate.
To reduce bumpiness I reduced FFB to 1 and 1. Added ABS to 6. Yes I am an ABS hater but I hate bumpiness even more. Abs helps here. Now it handles more or less like a GT car.

 

[ALB123]

I managed to watch a little of the Nissan stream yesterday and noticed how much smoother the track is in reality than in GT6. It's not even close.

Too bad for Nissan and the poor showing they had. I was about to say a few negative things about their FF LMP1 program, but decided to shut my mouth after reading @Buck-O's post about the setbacks they suffered. Wish them better luck next year.

I watched a couple of hours of Le Mans and I had the same thoughts regarding the surface of the track (when watching on-board video feed). Now, even if they recently paved the real track and even if our track is supposed to be a "worn surface", there shouldn't be nearly the difference that exists between the GT6 track and the real life track.

Is it possible to get participation data on GT Academy sometime after it finishes? Like, do they publish data showing how many people participated? How many laps were attempted? Etc..etc..?? Just going off of my GT6 friends and acquaintances, I'm going to say that participation in 2015 is down compared to 2014. I wasn't playing Gran Turismo before 2014's GT Academy, so I have no idea what earlier years were like. Personally, I haven't given Round 4 much effort at all. The first three rounds, I treated them like Seasonal Events - once I post a Gold time I stop. Even though I know I have absolutely no chance in hell of being a "top driver", since Round 4 is the round that counts, I was planning on running lap after lap until I knew I just physically could not do any better. That didn't end up happening. I just can't stand driving the Nissan LMP1 car for more than 15-20 minutes. I guarantee I haven't put in more than 1 hour, in total, into Round 4.

 

[Polsixe]

I managed to watch a little of the Nissan stream yesterday and noticed how much smoother the track is in reality than in GT6. It's not even close.

Too bad for Nissan and the poor showing they had. I was about to say a few negative things about their FF LMP1 program, but decided to shut my mouth after reading @Buck-O's post about the setbacks they suffered. Wish them better luck next year.

Yes, the Audi stream seemed to show the Mulsanne as smoother than a new interstate as they hit 327 kph just before the first chicane on their 3:21 race laps.

Also, they use all the road going wide left into the blue paint at Tetre Rouge, Mulsanne Corner and Arnage, the kind of moves that end up as Red DQ laps in GT Academy.

 

[TexRex]

Second most enjoyable FF in the game (first for me is the Honda 1300 Coupe 9 S) when driven with ABS disabled. I accidentally attempted the TT the first time with ABS enabled--I don't know if AI uses it in B-Spec races so I hedge my bets and turn it on--and the danged thing was horrendous. With ABS off, however, the narrower rear tires have a tendency to lock sooner than the fronts and thus encourage chassis rotation as you approach apex. Out of the corners, it's fine.

 

[t_wilson01]

Maybe with this car PD didn't get the FFB right. And it's possible since it's completely new concept, not easy to simulate.
To reduce bumpiness I reduced FFB to 1 and 1. Added ABS to 6. Yes I am an ABS hater but I hate bumpiness even more. Abs helps here. Now it handles more or less like a GT car.

If I'm not mistaken, the track is just as bumpy with other cars. I'll try it later on just to be sure. Reducing the FFB settings makes it easier on your arms, but your eyes are still getting assaulted by the constant shaking of the screen. Interestingly, as you approach Mulsanne there's a bit of the track that is much smoother than the rest of the Mulsanne straight.

I'm going to say that participation in 2015 is down compared to 2014. I wasn't playing Gran Turismo before 2014's GT Academy, so I have no idea what earlier years were like. Personally, I haven't given Round 4 much effort at all. The first three rounds, I treated them like Seasonal Events - once I post a Gold time I stop. Even though I know I have absolutely no chance in hell of being a "top driver", since Round 4 is the round that counts, I was planning on running lap after lap until I knew I just physically could not do any better. That didn't end up happening. I just can't stand driving the Nissan LMP1 car for more than 15-20 minutes. I guarantee I haven't put in more than 1 hour, in total, into Round 4.

Imaging having to drive that thing for hours on end like those poor souls had to do during the race. I'd say participation in GT6 as a whole is way down than at this same time last year. The online lobbies are empty and far less people are taking part in the TTs. They are either playing other racing games or games from other genres. Also removing the ability to gift cars, paints, horns, tuning parts, etc was a huge mistake. There was a huge amount of interest in that aspect of GT5 back then.

Yes, the Audi stream seemed to show the Mulsanne as smoother than a new interstate as they hit 327 kph just before the first chicane on their 3:21 race laps.

Also, they use all the road going wide left into the blue paint at Tetre Rouge, Mulsanne Corner and Arnage, the kind of moves that end up as Red DQ laps in GT Academy.

You could see how smooth the track is by watching Nissan's stream as well.

I switched on the stream at one point and saw one GT-R LM all over the back of what I now think was a LMP2 car. The GT-R is quite easily able to pass it in the straights, but as soon as they get to a slow corner the car behind retakes the spot. This happens even through the Ford chicanes. After the handful of turns past the start/finish line the LMP2 pulls so far ahead that it's not until the first chicane on Mulsanne straight that the GT-R closes the gap again. Because of a slower car in front, the GT-R was not able to make a pass before reaching Mulsanne corner. The LMP2 was still in front when they reached the twisty sections which meant that it disappeared into the distance never to be seen again. Also on separate occasions I saw an Audi and a Porsche overtake a GT-R like it was standing still. They had no chance of winning.