The war on ISIS.

[Dotini]

Viewed from a comfortable recliner in front of a 46" plasma screen, big battle scenes from Game of Thrones are great fun. Just imagine the fun to be had when Turkey invades Syria and Russia bombs the Turkish troops.

You just can't take NATO seriously anymore. All talk, no action.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...sia-if-troops-enter-syria?cmpid=yhoo.headline

 

[Dennisch]

Viewed from a comfortable recliner in front of a 46" plasma screen, big battle scenes from Game of Thrones are great fun. Just imagine the fun to be had when Turkey invades Syria and Russia bombs the Turkish troops.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...sia-if-troops-enter-syria?cmpid=yhoo.headline

Absolutely justified if it happens. The Russians are there to defend Assad and friends, and an invasion of Syrian soil is an invasion of Assad territory.

That is also the moment where the West needs to stop supporting Turkey, and get the hell out of there.

Edit.

Sneaky NATO insert edit. But that's another organisation that is getting neutered by political squabbling.

 

[Dotini]

Absolutely justified if it happens. The Russians are there to defend Assad and friends, and an invasion of Syrian soil is an invasion of Assad territory.

That is also the moment where the West needs to stop supporting Turkey, and get the hell out of there.

Nevermind NATO and their silly treaty obligations.

This is becoming a seriously disordered situation.

 

[Dennisch]

Nevermind NATO and their silly treaty obligations.

This is becoming a seriously disordered situation.

It already was. Look up my list of who's fighting who.

 

[Rage Racer]

Turkish planes bombed the Kurds... in Iraq. The US-backed Kurds, YPG.
Why not Syrian Kurds (PYD)? The answer may be... S-400 Triumph.

 

[Dennisch]

Turkish planes bombed the Kurds... in Iraq. The US-backed Kurds, YPG.
Why not Syrian Kurds (PYD)? The answer may be... S-400 Triumph.

Wut?

They're also bombing the Kurds in Northern Syria.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Russia to initiate UN Security Council meeting over Turkey sending ground troops to Syria.

https://www.rt.com/news/333012-unsc-turkey-troops-syria/

Note: I did try to find some independent verification, but none was to be had.

 

[mustafur]

This may help in understanding the situation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish–Turkish_conflict_(1978–present)

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_of_Kurdish_people_in_Turkey

Given the History a Turkey/Russia Conflict looks impending.

That is also the moment where the West needs to stop supporting Turkey.

To be fair to ever support Turkey given their History is basically like supporting a Terrorist State.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Turkey

How they ever Got EU Membership is the biggest question mark.

 

[Dennisch]

A possible car bomb has gone off in Ankara, Turkey. Reports are of at least 5 dead and lots of wounded.

Edit. 18 dead now. 28.

The Kurdish militant group TAK has claimed responsibility for the attack. They also vowed to continue the fight against Erdogan.

To be fair to ever support Turkey given their History is basically like supporting a Terrorist State.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Turkey

How they ever Got EU Membership is the biggest question mark.

Turkey doesn't have the membership yet, and with the current behaviour of Erdogan and his henchmen, I doubt it will happen any time soon.

But on the other hand, Europe is being run by a bunch of pussies who will probably bend over as soon as Turkey asks them to.

 

[mustafur]

The Kurdish militant group TAK has claimed responsibility for the attack. They also vowed to continue the fight against Erdogan.

Turkey doesn't have the membership yet, and with the current behaviour of Erdogan and his henchmen, I doubt it will happen any time soon.

But on the other hand, Europe is being run by a bunch of pussies who will probably bend over as soon as Turkey asks them to.

So basically what I had gathered from this Turkish/Kurdish Hostility was it started when the Turkish Kurds of PKK who where fighting in Northern Iraq and Syria needed more people to attack ISIL So they asked the Turkish Government for Help, at this time they where at an all time High in relations. Turkey responded by locking them in Syria so they couldn't go back to Turkey, then when the Kurds and PKK protested the police went full on Brutality killing 31 people, then afterwards Starting bombing the crap out of PKK positions in Syria and Iraq.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29518448

To me this sounds like Turkey Basically saw an opportunity to get rid of Kurds who originated from Turkey by locking them out of the country then killing the ones in the Conflict.

And now you have Hardline Kurdish Militia bombing Turkey now in retaliation to this, pretty much self inflicted stuff here.

 

[TenEightyOne]

So basically what I had gathered from this Turkish/Kurdish Hostility was it started when the Turkish Kurds of PKK who where fighting in Northern Iraq and Syria needed more people to attack ISIL

Um, no, that's all veeeery recent. It goes back way beyond even the conflicts of the early 20th century.

 

[mustafur]

Um, no, that's all veeeery recent. It goes back way beyond even the conflicts of the early 20th century.

yes, but there was a ceasefire in place and this is what broke that.

I linked what your talking about above.

 

[TenEightyOne]

yes, but there was a ceasefire in place and this is what broke that.

I linked what your talking about above.

You said that the linked incident started the hostilities. It didn't, it's as simple as that. The hostilities have existed (and been active) for a very very long time. Syrian appeals to allow Kurdish fighters to join them against IS (as you linked) don't change that fact.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

12 hours of footage filming his house and tracking his movements, which means these monsters were planning some sort of breach or sabotage in one of our nuclear plants

How do you know that? Or are you just jumpinh to conclusions again? How do you know that they weren't planning on abducting him or simply planning on assassinating him?

 

[mustafur]

You said that the linked incident started the hostilities. It didn't, it's as simple as that. The hostilities have existed (and been active) for a very very long time. Syrian appeals to allow Kurdish fighters to join them against IS (as you linked) don't change that fact.

There was a ceasefire in place for nearly 2 years, I never said it started the entire conflict but that is what broke the ceasefire.

The conflict in its full dates back to the 70s.

 

[TenEightyOne]

There was a ceasefire in place for nearly 2 years, I never said it started the entire conflict but that is what broke the ceasefire.

The conflict in its full dates back to the 70s.

Which is different from the hostilities, which was what you said. They go back a hundred years before any organised military action.

 

[mustafur]

Which is different from the hostilities, which was what you said. They go back a hundred years before any organised military action.

I was talking about the Turkish/PKK fued, yes it started in the 70s however the ceasefire was broken by what I said above.

Most of the Hostily was started with Kurdish people when the Turkish state was established after the Ottoman Empire collapsed and the Turkish Government basically attempted to wipe out anything they didn't consider Turkish, obviously the Armenians got the worst end of this and still to this day are considered second class citizens(the government doesn't even recognise the Armenian Genocide which is basically Nazi levels of racial extermination).

The PKK I wouldn't say represents the entire Kurdish population even though they have majority Support.

 

[mister dog]

How do you know that? Or are you just jumpinh to conclusions again? How do you know that they weren't planning on abducting him or simply planning on assassinating him?

And what would be the beneficial goal for these terrorists then if they just abduct or kill him? It's quite obvious that if they are after the top man of one of our nuclear installations, there's a good chance it would be to either commit an act of sabotage or try to get their hands on uranium, but whatever i don't feel like going back and forth with you once again.

 

[TenEightyOne]

And what would be the beneficial goal for these terrorists then if they just abduct or kill him? It's quite obvious that if they are after the top man of one of our nuclear installations, there's a good chance it would be to either commit an act of sabotage or try to get their hands on uranium, but whatever i don't feel like going back and forth with you once again.

Actually the first goal (abduction) leads readily to access. Bear in mind that being inside any secure physical system of this type is far more dangerous than operating from without. Co-erced logins where the logger fails to activate the inevitable "hijack" failsafe is a security nightmare. While the workings of the plant are extremely unlikely to be operable from without the document servers may be a different proposition, in my experience.

 

[Rage Racer]

Complexity +1.

Try and sort out

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I think you're missing the Judean Peoples' Front and the Peoples' Front of Judea.

 

[Akira AC]

So, Saudi Arabia is demanding military assistance from the US to reinforce rebel positions and the rebel army (this also includes or is not limited to the Al-Nusra front and ISIS), besides of the Saudi themselves want to start sending troops there.



In the meantime the US, Russia, the Syrian Army and (hopefully) the FSA will agree to force a ceasefire starting on February 27th.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35634695

 

[mustafur]

I think all parties here relise how ****ed it is, only Turkey seems not to give a crap at the expense of their own people, USA would throw them out of NATO before going to war with Russia every day of the week.

 

[DCP]

This war is already concluded, if only people would make an attempt to understand bible prophecy.
Damascus will be left in a ruined heap. Isis are building chemical weapons of mass destruction.
Just look how many are involved there now.
There are delays, as the people who want out, and fleeing from Syria. The world will soon see the complete destruction of Damascus, as sad as it sounds. Mankind, responsible for his own doing.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

if only people would make an attempt to understand bible prophecy

They have. They think it's rubbish.

 

[FoRiZon]

This war is already concluded, if only people would make an attempt to understand the obvious outcome.
Damascus will be left in a ruined heap. Isis are stole oil refineries and military equipments but destroyed quickly by Russians and Americans.
Just look how many are involved there now.
There are delays, as the people who want out, and fleeing from Syria. The world is now seeing the instability of Damascus, as sad as it sounds. Syrian Government, responsible for his own doing.

Fixed that for you.

 

[DCP]

Fixed that for you.

Obvious outcome, obviously, because you can see it happening. Who saw it happening 3000 years ago?

Is there a thread regarding Irans nuclear deal?
What is the obvious outcome with Irans deal by the way?

They have. They think it's rubbish.

Whooh, we have a god here. Knows all the people who have...

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Knows all the people who have...

No, we've just been down this road before. You're not the first person to try and convince the forums of the merits of biblical prophecy, and you probably won't be the last. But you could say that we've all been thoroughly unmoved by the idea.

 

[DCP]

No, we've just been down this road before. You're not the first person to try and convince the forums of the merits of biblical prophecy, and you probably won't be the last. But you could say that we've all been thoroughly unmoved by the idea.

You mean "I". It's cool.
I'm not trying to convince anyone. I've merely posted what was written. It's the readers who can decide if they want to be convinced or not. Free will remember...

 

[prisonermonkeys]

You mean "I".

No, I mean "we".

I've merely posted what was written.

Nostradamus also made prophecies.