The WTC 600 in Tokyo done without exploits is genuinely one of the hardest races in single player in gt7 - share your setups, tips, and cars

[mynameis66]

Rant over, I'll clean up the RX-7 tune and repost it this evening and make another non glitch attempt with the rolling coffee cup and maybe even the sucker car. (Cappucino and 2J). Both looked good on initial runs.

I posted my Cappucino tune a while back,a little unstable under braking but good fun,until PD remove the fun.Im more interested in the 2J though. 👍

 

[Saargasm]

See the RX-7 and the Murceilago tunes I posted, particularly the Murceilago because it's readily available with the required engine. I uploaded them in the game itself.
I don't want the other tune nerfed. For me, it's the fastest and easiest way to win at Tokyo, coming in around 26:00-26:30. It's also one of the most expensive cars in the game.
I don't understand why there's so much curiosity about one single, probably unimpressive, tune compared to at least three others I uploaded (there are two for the RX-7).
Actually, I haven't uploaded the second RX-7 tune yet, it was late when I won the race with it.
To no stop Tokyo 600 with an engine swapped RX-7, here's what I remember if it:
I think the car is an '09 model. It has the 26B engine with all permanent mods except widebody done to both car and engine.
Next I went to GT Auto and fitted a color keyed air dam and a medium type C wing. I just picked the first one that came up and the first end plates. After that I got some custom wheels, wide wheels, wide stance, and the smallest possible rim. I painted the car green and added decals in random places. I think the sides are symmetrical, the hood is not.
At Understeer, I bought every part they have. I planned on using this car a while.
Now to the track. I installed Sports Hard tires on the front, though I have run Comfort Hard there before. On the back I installed Racing Hard tires. One can install IM's here for a one stop race and finish the race faster, but that's not the point; I wanted a no stop tune.
Next on the list is normal suspension. Further down, installed the fully customized differential and set everything to 5.
Next column. Front downforce is 70, rear is 300. The ECM is standard IIRC, but if you use IM tires you may need to install the fully customizable one and reduce the output. I forget how much ballast was in it, but that's adjusted last, so it should be easy to figure out (and you need to tweak it on your own to see where PP rises and falls out of sync with the weight). Distribution is -50, all the way forward.
Next is the fully customizable manual transmission. Set it to your preference between 240 and 280. I used 260. If 240 works for you, switch to the close ratio transmission. I used the close ratio with IM tires on the one stop tune.
Remove the nitrous. I bought it to use in other races where it's legal.
Next column: use either the Normal or low RPM turbo. If you can make PP with a larger one, do it. Use an anti lag system but turn it off. Use a brake balance controller set to -5.
Everything else is straight up normal. Later on it's there if you need it for Spa, the Hypercar Parade, running daily workouts, etc.
When the race starts, set your display for anything you can't accidentally bump. Set TCS to your liking, I used 5.
I had all driver assists turned on and maxed. I used a Dual Sense but had a random sensitivity setting. I used the controller's tilt function, not the stick
The car will feel loose for the first four laps, so press the gas slowly to max. You may have no issues here, my definition of "loose" is the car going even slightly off the path I'm trying to take. Be ready to countersteer, and expect not to take the lead until lap four or five. Once lap five or so hits, you can give the car what for and it will stay stuck to the road.
On easy I finished 12 seconds ahead of 2nd place for a roughly 27 minute race. Using the one stop strategy I finished about 30 seconds sooner.
As for the glitch tunes ya'll are clamoring for, forget it. I don't have some 18 minute win tune, they all run 26-27 minutes, some with and some without stops. One of them requires up to three stops and there's no changing it as the car turns all four RS tires red in three laps flat and requires at least one stop for fuel anyway. I find them a tiny bit easier to drive due to grip, but given the sheer number of options to win this race and the fact I've shared every non glitch tune I have for it, plus the fact they're not any faster, there's no reason to post them... period.
What's the point of posting a 291 PP no stop tune if the race still takes 27 1/2 minutes with it? Just so PD can issue a patch that disables half the non glitch tunes with it? Drive a Bimmer. Or the Lambo. Or a Mazda. Or the tiny Cappucino... etc.

You do realize they don't nerf individual cars, right? The Tomahawk is (mostly) responsible for the gear/speed, suspension and differential settings being removed from PP calculations.

 

[Pedinhuh]

I want to see more high-paying, high-skill events for road cars like this one in the future.

Preferably on Monza, Nurburgring, Suzuka and Mount Panorama.

They need more events, specially Monza and Mt. Panorama.

 

[shadow0460]

You do realize they don't nerf individual cars, right? The Tomahawk is (mostly) responsible for the gear/speed, suspension and differential settings being removed from PP calculations.

Why risk it, though, especially with several cars and non glitch tunes with similar or better performance?
I've uploaded several non glitch tunes that can win this race and I have non glitch tunes to win every World Circuits event. If my tunes don't work for you, there are plenty of others here. Use one. I'm not posting any glitch tunes I've discovered, and that's the end of it.

 

[Habla2k]

I don't understand why there's so much curiosity about one single, probably unimpressive, tune

Maybe because you constantly talk about how great it is? Doing that, but not telling the tune is just showing off and i don't know, why anyone would do this in this thread.

I don't want the other tune nerfed.

You serious? You think PD scans this thread and patches any tune you're posting?

I'm not posting any glitch tunes I've discovered, and that's the end of it.

You don't have to, but don't talk about it then, it's just not very kind.

 

[Saargasm]

Why risk it, though, especially with several cars and non glitch tunes with similar or better performance?
I've uploaded several non glitch tunes that can win this race and I have non glitch tunes to win every World Circuits event. If my tunes don't work for you, there are plenty of others here. Use one. I'm not posting any glitch tunes I've discovered, and that's the end of it.

I honestly couldn't care one bit about your "glitch" tune and never did. I was just reading your reasoning across a few posts and wanted to ensure you knew it wasn't based on anything we've seen from PD, in regards to glitches being fixed. I'd leave it at this, but your last sentence have me a chuckle! I bet you have a hot GF, she just goes to another school...

 

[Mudda Chod]

I honestly couldn't care one bit about your "glitch" tune and never did. I was just reading your reasoning across a few posts and wanted to ensure you knew it wasn't based on anything we've seen from PD, in regards to glitches being fixed. I'd leave it at this, but your last sentence have me a chuckle! I bet you have a hot GF, she just goes to another school...

He's 62 years old. If his girlfriend's going to school then I guess there's a reason he's so secretive...

However, since his secret car is from the Legends dealership, it's probably not a practical grind anyway.

So everyone is happy... He's not going to share it, and nobody cares. If he wants to ramble on about how wonderful his secret tunes are, that only he can do, that's up to him.

 

[Saargasm]

He's 62 years old. If his girlfriend's going to school then I guess there's a reason he's so secretive...

However, since his secret car is from the Legends dealership, it's probably not a practical grind anyway.

So everyone is happy... He's not going to share it, and nobody cares. If he wants to ramble on about how wonderful his secret tunes are, that only he can do, that's up to him.

Never thought to check a profile for an age before. When I read the posts I assumed someone younger - although his profile shows as 47-years old (which now that I am 36, doesn't seem "old" anymore lol)

 

[05XR8]

The focus on Tokyo, is mainly about doing it under 30 minutes. For sure it’s also due to the race being AI road cars. Using road cars over race cars, is just a product of that. I prefer Le Mans and I use road cars as well. However, it’s going to be 30 minutes flat or more. That difference of three minutes are why majority of players prefer testing this grind. If Le Mans were laps instead of timed, it’d probably be different.

 

[Saargasm]

The focus on Tokyo, is mainly about doing it under 30 minutes. For sure it’s also due to the race being AI road cars. Using road cars over race cars, is just a product of that. I prefer Le Mans and I use road cars as well. However, it’s going to be 30 minutes flat or more. That difference of three minutes are why majority of players prefer testing this grind. If Le Mans were laps instead of timed, it’d probably be different.

Sure, to a large degree, you're right. With set # of laps, the faster you complete it, the more $/Hr. you earn.

 

[Mudda Chod]

Never thought to check a profile for an age before. When I read the posts I assumed someone younger - although his profile shows as 47-years old (which now that I am 36, doesn't seem "old" anymore lol)

Lol... Neither did I, obviously

 

[shadow0460]

You assume I didn't feed the profile a line of bull, and you assume I care what you think about me or my tuning, which I don't.
Stop thinking you're entitled to every exploit in the game; you're not. You're not entitled to any number of credits or cars. In fact, you're not entitled to anything at all.

Going back to the race, I'm still going to try and post more tunes for it. They'll be uploaded as part of videos taken on my PS5. I may get similar results to what's been posted with some of them, but I'm going to try it anyway.

 

[Habla2k]

The focus on Tokyo, is mainly about doing it under 30 minutes. For sure it’s also due to the race being AI road cars. Using road cars over race cars, is just a product of that. I prefer Le Mans and I use road cars as well. However, it’s going to be 30 minutes flat or more. That difference of three minutes are why majority of players prefer testing this grind. If Le Mans were laps instead of timed, it’d probably be different.

Isn't Sardegna with laps too? And can be done faster?

 

[05XR8]

Isn't Sardegna with laps too? And can be done faster?

Faster with road cars? I haven’t tested that. I think I saw someone use an EV for Sardegna. Maybe I’ll try one of my RX-8s with the 787B swap. It’s a Grand Am replication. So, I’d have to tune it up to GT3 spec.
Tokyo is mainly about trying the road cars. Sure, anyone can do the same for the road cars at Sardegna, but the focus are on Tokyo.

Maybe it’s because of the flow of Tokyo over Sardegna.

 

[Mudda Chod]

Post your fastest times...

Thread 'WHO'S GOT THE FASTEST ROTTUCCINO on Tokyo Grind?' https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/whos-got-the-fastest-rottuccino-on-tokyo-grind.413323/

@BWM ?
@bosOyota ?

 

[Habla2k]

Faster with road cars? I haven’t tested that. I think I saw someone use an EV for Sardegna. Maybe I’ll try one of my RX-8s with the 787B swap. It’s a Grand Am replication. So, I’d have to tune it up to GT3 spec.
Tokyo is mainly about trying the road cars. Sure, anyone can do the same for the road cars at Sardegna, but the focus are on Tokyo.

Maybe it’s because of the flow of Tokyo over Sardegna.

No, but you were talking about doing it < 30min for Cr/hr and that le mans is slower because of the fixed 30min. And i thought it might be possible to do Sardegna faster than tokyo with the right car, even glitch free.

Btw. are there threads like this one for le mans or sardegna? With hints what cars perform well?

 

[05XR8]

No, but you were talking about doing it < 30min for Cr/hr and that le mans is slower because of the fixed 30min. And i thought it might be possible to do Sardegna faster than tokyo with the right car, even glitch free.

Btw. are there threads like this one for le mans or sardegna? With hints what cars perform well?

Le Mans WTC700 30 mins?

This morning I did the Le Mans WTC700 race and it was set as a timed 30 min race and not 8 laps although it said it was an 8 lap race when I selected it. Was this a change or a weird glitch? Edited to change it to 700 not 600

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Circuit de la Sarthe - PP700 / 30 minutes is the best track to grind while enjoying the actual track, car & weather!!!

Is anyone else just using all the cars in their garage to enjoy the different feels of the different cars while racing in the dynamic weather and earring about 825,000 per clean race?? Yes it takes at least 30minutes but its the funnest 'legal' way to grind. Or is there another similar...

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Sardegna 800

Sardegna become my new grind . Wet Tokyo just wasn't enjoyable even with the interesting tomahawk. Spa 1hr is great but committing a hour isn't handy . Lemans 30 mins has been awesome tuning up lots of road cars but am running out of road cars and its getting repetitive. Sardegna short...

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[mynameis66]

Why risk it, though, especially with several cars and non glitch tunes with similar or better performance?
I've uploaded several non glitch tunes that can win this race and I have non glitch tunes to win every World Circuits event. If my tunes don't work for you, there are plenty of others here. Use one. I'm not posting any glitch tunes I've discovered, and that's the end of it.

Does this include your 2J tune?If that was a glitch fair enough,if its a legit tune why not share it with eveyone?

 

[MidnightRun85]

Unashamed to say, I've never actually tried this race! I've done the Sardegna race a load of times and tried the Le Mans race once but didn't finish... But... I'm going to give it a run tonight at long last!

There's a few cars I've got around the 600PP mark, so I have a few choices, but I was wondering: is the no-stop strategy still viable after the recent changes to damage and tyre wear? Also, does this race include damage (because I don't think I've EVER run a completely clean lap at any of the Tokyo circuits!

Cars on my shortlist:

• Alfa Romeo 4C Road Car
• Audi R8 4.2 '07
• Porsche Cayman GT4 '16
• Nissan GT-R '17
• Amuse Nismo 380RS
• 787B-swapped RX-7 Spirit R
• 787B-swapped RX-8 Spirit R
• 13B-swapped Cappuccino
• Z4 GT3-swapped E46 M3

 

[Mudda Chod]

Unashamed to say, I've never actually tried this race! I've done the Sardegna race a load of times and tried the Le Mans race once but didn't finish... But... I'm going to give it a run tonight at long last!

There's a few cars I've got around the 600PP mark, so I have a few choices, but I was wondering: is the no-stop strategy still viable after the recent changes to damage and tyre wear? Also, does this race include damage (because I don't think I've EVER run a completely clean lap at any of the Tokyo circuits!

Cars on my shortlist:

• Alfa Romeo 4C Road Car
• Audi R8 4.2 '07
• Porsche Cayman GT4 '16
• Nissan GT-R '17
• Amuse Nismo 380RS
• 787B-swapped RX-7 Spirit R
• 787B-swapped RX-8 Spirit R
• 13B-swapped Cappuccino
• Z4 GT3-swapped E46 M3

Yes, a no-stop strategy is possible for some cars, with the right tune.

CREDIT GRIND - WTC 600 Tokyo Express - Glitches are Dead.

I agree that it's frustrating, but actually I'm enjoying the challenge (to get the quickest race time without Tomahawk) Have you turned on all the assists? Including display of the braking zone? TCS 5, ASC & Countersteering. For all these tunes (in combination with the wet track) the car...

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The easiest no-stop win is Aston Martin DP-100. Just fit Sports Hard tyres and use ECU reduction/balast to get 600PP. As usual, the first lap can be tricky, because of the wet track, but it dries quickly so from lap 2 or 3 you can start to push it... Aston DP-100 will do the full race without a stop (with the hard tyres) and no need for Fuel saving, EXCEPT you have to short shift around 6,500 rpm, do not suitable for auto gearbox users.

Yes, damage and penalties are on. If you hit the wall, or another car, you will almost certainly get damage. If the contact is solid you will also get a 5 sec penalty, which sucks. Minor damage will repair itself after 30 seconds, without much affect on race time. Nevertheless, even with damage, penalties and a pit stop you can still win in around 27 min with many cars, and keep Clean Race Bonus i.e. Cr 825,000.

 

[Habla2k]

did anyone ever find out what you need to do to NOT get clean race bonus? lol

 

[MidnightRun85]

Yes, a no-stop strategy is possible for some cars, with the right tune.

CREDIT GRIND - WTC 600 Tokyo Express - Glitches are Dead.

I agree that it's frustrating, but actually I'm enjoying the challenge (to get the quickest race time without Tomahawk) Have you turned on all the assists? Including display of the braking zone? TCS 5, ASC & Countersteering. For all these tunes (in combination with the wet track) the car...

www.gtplanet.net

The easiest no-stop win is Aston Martin DP-100. Just fit Sports Hard tyres and use ECU reduction/balast to get 600PP. As usual, the first lap can be tricky, because of the wet track, but it dries quickly so from lap 2 or 3 you can start to push it... Aston DP-100 will do the full race without a stop (with the hard tyres) and no need for Fuel saving, EXCEPT you have to short shift around 6,500 rpm, do not suitable for auto gearbox users.

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Yes, damage and penalties are on. If you hit the wall, or another car, you will almost certainly get damage. If the contact is solid you will also get a 5 sec penalty, which sucks. Minor damage will repair itself after 30 seconds, without much affect on race time. Nevertheless, even with damage, penalties and a pit stop you can still win in around 27 min with many cars, and keep Clean Race Bonus i.e. Cr 825,000.

Nice one, thanks! I don't have the DP-100, so I'll try out the cars on my shortlist first, probably with a 1-stop strategy. Maybe after a couple of races I'll get the Aston.

did anyone ever find out what you need to do to NOT get clean race bonus? lol

I know on the Sardegna race if you shortcut the final right bend you get a penalty and therefore lose your CRB. No idea where that might be possible in Tokyo.

 

[johnson_57]

Cars on my shortlist:

• 787B-swapped RX-7 Spirit R
• 787B-swapped RX-8 Spirit R
• Z4 GT3-swapped E46 M3

I Have been able to do Tokyo without stopping with these three. Don't know about the others, maybe it's possible but not for me. Three other cars that I can do it with is Suzuki Escudo, Lamborghini Huracan Gr.4 and Aston Martin DP-100.

 

[Habla2k]

probably with a 1-stop strategy

The engine Swapped M3 can do 0 stop if you save fuel, use higher FM and Sport Hards. Maybe need to drop the turbo, i'm not sure, but should work with turbo too. the R8 might work too, never tried before.

No idea where that might be possible in Tokyo.

I don't think there are shortcuts in tokyo since there are walls everywhere, so you can't get off the track and touching the wall doesn't cut the bonus. Thankfully, lol.

 

[fastone371]

Isn't Sardegna with laps too? And can be done faster?

Tokyo pays the most.

 

[MidnightRun85]

I Have been able to do Tokyo without stopping with these three. Don't know about the others, maybe it's possible but not for me. Three other cars that I can do it with is Suzuki Escudo, Lamborghini Huracan Gr.4 and Aston Martin DP-100.

The engine Swapped M3 can do 0 stop if you save fuel, use higher FM and Sport Hards. Maybe need to drop the turbo, i'm not sure, but should work with turbo too. the R8 might work too, never tried before.

I don't think there are shortcuts in tokyo since there are walls everywhere, so you can't get off the track and touching the wall doesn't cut the bonus. Thankfully, lol.

Okay, so my engine-swapped options might be the starting point for me then. Is the Nismo-swapped Delta also capable of a one-stop??

 

[BWM]

is the no-stop strategy still viable after the recent changes to damage and tyre wear?

Of course, using hard tires(Sport or racing, didn't tried comfort) and playing with the fuel map, non stop run aren't that hard (Expect some extreme chases)
From hatchbacks, classic cars to high performance models. Larger FFs need some tire saving strategies though.
Many here did non stop run too.

Post your fastest times...

Thread 'WHO'S GOT THE FASTEST ROTTUCCINO on Tokyo Grind?' https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/whos-got-the-fastest-rottuccino-on-tokyo-grind.413323/

@BWM ?
@bosOyota ?

Great challenge but I like trying odd things more that ultimate pace.

 

[johnson_57]

Okay, so my engine-swapped options might be the starting point for me then. Is the Nismo-swapped Delta also capable of a one-stop??

I'm not sure. I think @mynameis66 will be able to tell you. I Know he has had success with it.

 

[Habla2k]

I wish i had the Nismo Engine, now that i could finally buy the delta.

 

[MidnightRun85]

I just tried a couple of time trial runs on my lunch break with a quick build Delta GT-R... I'm rusty at this track, so my times aren't great, but a wet lap was 2:35 and a dry lap was 2:13. Are those laps reasonable times or is the Delta going to need some tuning to keep up / win? Speed maxed out at 293 kph / 182 mph.