The WTC 600 in Tokyo done without exploits is genuinely one of the hardest races in single player in gt7 - share your setups, tips, and cars

[Habla2k]

Alpine glitch definitely got nerfed

Maybe someone finds new settings, i liked the A220. Still having hope.

 

[Mudda Chod]

Welp.....it looks like the Alpine glitch definitely got nerfed. Tried to jump in and it was sitting way over 600PP now

Guess it's back to the R8 for grinding.

ROTTUCCINO!!!!

Was always faster than the A220 anyway

 

[Habla2k]

Gonna need that engine though...

 

[Mudda Chod]

Gonna need that engine though...

I'll sell you one... Wait... Nope

 

[mynameis66]

If you want to try something similair to the cappucino,the`91 Honda Beat with the civic engine swap is a hoot.210mph top end,and no matter what you throw at it it stays under 600PP.Its more unstable under braking but im sure somebody tinkering with the set up can make a stable tune.
IM for the first 5 laps and then RM,RH or whatever you choose.I dont think you can non stop it but FM1 all the way before and after pit stop.Like i said,it need`looking at`for a decent tune. 👍

Also,tyre wear has gone up to 15x,11 days ago it was 12x,4 months ago it was 9x.Sneaky sneaky.

 

[BWM]

Do you use brake control +5? Because that might save some front tires.

impressive you guys have all those engines for swapping aleady.

Brake balance 0 in all 4 runs.

edit: didn't notice the wear multiple goes up, PD is trying so hard here

 

[Bullet007]

I'm getting tired of the changes in the PP algorithm. Every time I get a car we'll tuned, they fuxor it. Version 1.25 added 7 PP to the Honda 2&4, which made a noticeable difference in lap times to get back to 600 PP. Grrr...

 

[Habla2k]

Also,tyre wear has gone up to 15x

i did a subaru 99 run yesterday to try if it can no stop, and it could, on FM6 most of the time and with SHs. I did Brake at +5 and at the end of the race front tires were 1/4 red and back tires were almost untouched.

 

[mynameis66]

i did a subaru 99 run yesterday to try if it can no stop, and it could, on FM6 most of the time and with SHs. I did Brake at +5 and at the end of the race front tires were 1/4 red and back tires were almost untouched.

Yeah,makes no sense really.I hadnt noticed any increase in tyre wear on my couple of races yesterday so who knows what it means.Its gone from 9X,12X and now to 15X,i dont know about sardegna or le mans though,it just seems pd dont want you to grind quickly.

 

[Habla2k]

it just seems pd dont want you to grind quickly.

well, why would that be?

 

[johnson_57]

Yes please, any tuning help would be greatly appreciated! Hopefully the PP adjustments haven't killed their capability to win...

I Only adjusted the tunes and didn't try them again. I'm sure they are still able to win without pitting, only minor ballast and power changes was made. Both of them are @praiano63 tunes that I made some adjustments to suit me a little better. On the tuning sheets the RX8 looks like the better car but for me personally the RX7 is the winner. The RX8's rear end gets a little happy on the first lap when it's very wet. Both of these cars are rather fast down the straight so you have to get your braking marker for the first corner sorted spot on or you are going to greet the wall.

 

[MidnightRun85]

I Only adjusted the tunes and didn't try them again. I'm sure they are still able to win without pitting, only minor ballast and power changes was made. Both of them are @praiano63 tunes that I made some adjustments to suit me a little better. On the tuning sheets the RX8 looks like the better car but for me personally the RX7 is the winner. The RX8's rear end gets a little happy on the first lap when it's very wet. Both of these cars are rather fast down the straight so you have to get your braking marker for the first corner sorted spot on or you are going to greet the wall.

Amazing! Thank you so much. I'll give these two a try next time I'm on and let you know how I get on with the tunes.

 

[coyb20]

Question is when will the Tomahawk glitch return?

 

[johnson_57]

My Escudo's pp jumped up 26 points with the V1.25 update. I Tinkered with it to get under 600 again and it is still a very easy win. It's just such an easy car to drive, for me anyways.

 

[Pizzicato1985]

Gonna need that engine though...

Try the Merac SS.

544.71PP with Sports Softs with downforce at 50/83. Jumps to 628.xx if you go with 50/84. You can actually do all of the permanent engine upgrades aside from engine balancing and it will still come in around 513PP from almost 660PP if clicking up/down one time on the downforce.

50/83-95 (front/rear downforce) there seems to be some wonky calculations happening. At certain levels of ballast it occurs as well, but the way I've been doing it is zero ballast. Otherwise, I've done all three weight reductions, all the power upgrades aside from engine balance (gets you to like 485HP-ish) rest of the upgrades are the typical race gear (racing tranny, race brakes/pads, etc, etc)

It's not as fast as the Rotuccino but it's not too far behind it. Worth a try at least, especially since the Merac SS is so cheap

 

[05XR8]

Tried the Kenmeri. Didn’t win, but fuel was over 3 laps at the line. All done on FM1. Tyres were great all race. Only topped about 260km/h, but sounds awesome and great roadholding.

Noticed the Huracan was out of fuel towards the end of the race. Lapped it about three times. Was causing collisions. Same went for the Cayman at La Sarthe.

 

[Kleeer78]

Gto’84 is really good after 1.25 update

 

[Pizzicato1985]

I Only adjusted the tunes and didn't try them again. I'm sure they are still able to win without pitting, only minor ballast and power changes was made. Both of them are @praiano63 tunes that I made some adjustments to suit me a little better. On the tuning sheets the RX8 looks like the better car but for me personally the RX7 is the winner. The RX8's rear end gets a little happy on the first lap when it's very wet. Both of these cars are rather fast down the straight so you have to get your braking marker for the first corner sorted spot on or you are going to greet the wall.

On that RX-8/787b swap tune you posted, one can also run 50/225 for the downforce and still come in under 600pp. Can carry a little more speed through corners though it cuts the top speed on the straight down a few mph. There's probably a way to run more front downforce but I've yet to find the break-point in the PP calc going any higher than 50. Hope this helps

 

[johnson_57]

FINALLY............
I Have been trying to win Tokyo with the Ford Roadster ever since it became available. This freak'n Roadster has driven me to alcohol, voodoo and some other 💩 that I'm not proud of.
But today was the day
HIHGWAY TO HELL BABY 🤘

 

[Arkseven]

@Kleeer78 the GTO is amazing. One of the fastest Ferrari for this race and it's a lot of fun. Small and nimble with a turbo on it!


What do you guys think about the 'new' tire wear?

The Corvette C7 stock with SS tires in my hands could do 7 laps before this update. 8 laps was possible, but extremely risk since the car could lose the front tires at turn 3-4, which would make driving the rest of the lap almost impossible.

I did 3 races post update with it. The car now can do 8 laps and it's not that dangerous. In the 3rd race I drove as hard as I could, braking hard and power sliding at every lap and I still manage to do 8 laps with SS tires, losing them only at the very final turn.

The Porsche Cayman GT4 with SS tires was doing 8 laps with ease. Using FM, pushing to 9 laps could be possible. Now post update the car can do 9 laps without any problems and using FM it's possible to go for 10 laps.

RH tires seems to be the same though. I did 2 races with stock suspension and LSD settings (Evo V and R33) and by the end of the race I had the same tire wear from before.

 

[BWM]

Tried out the new cars, first the classic GTR

Basic RH non stop run in FM2
Good straight line speed compare to other RH runs. But slightly unstable can't give me the confident to throw it in corners hard.



Played something naughty for relaxing
Since PD nerfed wall contact damage and penalties in 1.25
Can you win with no braking?
Warning: Dirty driving include

(accidentally touch the brake button once)
With ultra-high turbo will be faster but shop parts are more than enough, and you could stick to FM2 or 3 if not want to switching1 to 6 all the time.
The only difficult part was the main straight keeping it out the wall

 

[05XR8]

Okay, went to adjust my settings again and this happened. Saved it as a Setting Sheet, but don’t want to touch it. I’ll use one of my other Kenmeris, until I can find out what else can be done to this one.

 

[Mudda Chod]

Played something naughty for relaxing
Since PD nerfed wall contact damage and penalties in 1.25
Can you win with no braking?

I can't believe they completely turned off wall penalties. Why such extremes!!?! What not a 1 sec penalty for significant contact... Specifically to eliminate wall riding.

Anyway, I guess we have a new fastest grind method

 

[Habla2k]

Worth a try at least

not working for me, stays at 650ish

for relaxing

thats not what i would call that, lol. I gave it a try but its so stressfull because of all the spinning around, especially in the hairpin. i also tried using the new engine swapped Silvia, but that car is just horrible to drive, rear tires always spinning around, can't really accelerate because it constantly breaks out.

 

[BWM]

not working for me, stays at 650ish

thats not what i would call that, lol. I gave it a try but its so stressfull because of all the spinning around, especially in the hairpin. i also tried using the new engine swapped Silvia, but that car is just horrible to drive, rear tires always spinning around, can't really accelerate because it constantly breaks out.

If Veyron is too hard you can go with the aventador SV. It's a bit slower on top speed (still pretty good) but with more downforce it's much easier hardle on the straight line and still comfortably finish under 26mins. (FM2 first 4 lap then FM1)
In the hairpin can aim for the middle instead of left corner. You will damage both front wheels and easier keep the vehicle straight before the damage gone but the car may bounce both directions randomly.

And one more thing, if rev raises during wall riding ease off the throttle to prevent spinning out corner.

 

[Habla2k]

@BWM
Thanks, but i rather wait for better glitches or just use my non glitch grinders. might be 2 minutes more, but more fun to drive.

 

[MidnightRun85]

Finally managed a win!! @johnson_57 tuned RX-8 got me my first win! Although, I don't know how you get that PP rating with that much power, I had to drop mine to 493hp with every other setting the same to get under 600PP. But narrowly managed my first win, 13s ahead of the GT-R of Suswilo. No stop, best lap a 2:13.

 

[YRS2703]

And one more thing, if rev raises during wall riding ease off the throttle to prevent spinning out corner.

There's an easier way for that, keep off the throttle and tap the handbrake. That will bring the revs down (as if the car was in neutral) and keep it steady. Then when you feel the car has settled down you can get back on the throttle at the exit

 

[Habla2k]

If Veyron is too hard you can go with the aventador SV

i did it now with an engine swapped m3 and high trbo on SH. that can do 345km/h on straight and is easier to control, i did 26:22 with it. the first tun after the straight is so much faster with "sliding". But i did the final hairpin normally with braking, because its way faster.

Try the Merac SS.

544.71PP with Sports Softs with downforce at 50/83. Jumps to 628.xx if you go with 50/84. You can actually do all of the permanent engine upgrades aside from engine balancing and it will still come in around 513PP from almost 660PP if clicking up/down one time on the downforce.

50/83-95 (front/rear downforce) there seems to be some wonky calculations happening. At certain levels of ballast it occurs as well, but the way I've been doing it is zero ballast. Otherwise, I've done all three weight reductions, all the power upgrades aside from engine balance (gets you to like 485HP-ish) rest of the upgrades are the typical race gear (racing tranny, race brakes/pads, etc, etc)

It's not as fast as the Rotuccino but it's not too far behind it. Worth a try at least, especially since the Merac SS is so cheap

could you mabe post your tune on this together with the custom parts you used?

PS:
This car owns tokyo, a lot.

PRAIANO'S TUNES : SETTINGS FOR GT7

Just checked, and each gear is adjustable individualy, as is the final. I honestly don't know what the difference between the two transmissions is. afaik, there's a quicker gear change on the racing trans. The manual custom gearbox is just your run of the mill gearbox but you can change ratios...

www.gtplanet.net

 

[johnson_57]

Both of my Lancia Delta's are still good contenders. I Actually prefer the standard version over the engine swapped one. The race times confirms it as well.