The WTC 600 in Tokyo done without exploits is genuinely one of the hardest races in single player in gt7 - share your setups, tips, and cars

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I cannot win this race for the life of me. I apparently can’t handle Sports tires in the wet, every turn is a disaster and if I brake too hard before the turn the AI slam into me from behind. I can’t find a decent line and I don’t know what my problem is.
 
i forgot to put in the video but it’s on the description. you need wide body and big wide wheels. the trany is just set to 350, no more fine adjustments.
Well, I tried this car but needed to get some better brakes on it and make a couple suspension changes to suit my driving style. I can't get as fast as you with this car just yet. Still trying to control it's turn in and it's wheel spin out of the turns. I'm still winning the race and did finally get a clean race bonus with it, so that's good. Right now my best race time is in the high 26 minute range. Maybe 26:54 with a fastest lap in the 2:07.9 range. So nothing too impressive at this time, but I just started using it and I'm sure it will get better with more seat time.

I cannot win this race for the life of me. I apparently can’t handle Sports tires in the wet, every turn is a disaster and if I brake too hard before the turn the AI slam into me from behind. I can’t find a decent line and I don’t know what my problem is.
Have you watched my "how to" video? It goes over the car setup and all the turn in, braking and accelerating points along with that cars you need to pass and when.

 
Have you watched my "how to" video? It goes over the car setup and all the turn in, braking and accelerating points along with that cars you need to pass and when.

Thanks I’ll give it a go next time I get some time to play, likely Sunday. I did better in the almost stock Diablo GT I just bought but still couldn’t keep the lead and needed to pit way too early.
 
Wow, nice race you had there. Sub 26 would be really impressive without any wall riding. I tried doing this race again tonight as part of my daily grind, but with the new tune Im having the hardest time keeping myself from going balls to the wall with the car. I keep running into the AI or they run in to me. Clean Race bonus keeps getting taken away, so I restart, and restart, and restart, and restart. It got so frustrating that I just gave up and ran Lemans and am now grinding Sardegna with the classic Gr.1 cars. Holy cow are they quick.

I may need to take a break from this race for a week as I must be getting too burnt out on it and am making too many mistakes. Plus I need to find a new car to do it in. @engrmariano has given plenty of examples for me to choose from, so I'm grateful for that.
It is done. 26 minute barrier in the Celica Rally Car broken. No wall riding. Clean race bonus. This is a marginally slower run, where I was stuck dead in the low 2:05.xxx lap range, until that one inexplicable magic 2:03.793.

I rehearsed lap 1 for nearly an hour: finish lap 1, restart, finish lap 1, restart... to get an idea of how to deal with the A.I. and where to be, and where it's not worth risking a pass.

As you mentioned, the burnout is real. The Sport Mode Time Trials have always done a number on me, and I had to step away for a couple weeks recently. Here, I know when I've crossed the exhaustion threshold when a succession of runs that feel good, clean and fast, result in the total race times and laps steadily getting slower.

Total Time: 25:56.469
Fastest Lap: 2:03.793
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I needed a couple days away and some time to not look at the Celica.

I present to you all, the Lamborghini Countach LP400 '74, A.K.A., Captain No-Torque.

Nearly 500hp, under 2000lbs, but only 295 lbft of torque.

It's hilarious in a straight line: around 200mph down the big straight with the right gearing. But the handling is goofy. The front will turn in with slightly too much enthusiasm, yet the rear will carry the car off the racing line. Not spinning or even oversteering... just a lot of pushing. Figuring out how much speed to carry through corners was... challenging.

Mind you, this behavior is less inherent to the car and more what happens under a maxed, imitation-Priano, high rake, 0 front downforce, max rear downforce setup. I need to tweak the natural frequency, dampers and anti-roll bars to make my tune drive more consistently. This does not help my imposter syndrome about my tuning abilities at all. :crazy:

This Countach is among the angriest cars I've driven. And I'm all for it.

Lamborghini Countach LP400 '74
Best Time:
26:27.468
Fastest Lap: 2:06.4224

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Well, I tried this car but needed to get some better brakes on it and make a couple suspension changes to suit my driving style. I can't get as fast as you with this car just yet. Still trying to control it's turn in and it's wheel spin out of the turns. I'm still winning the race and did finally get a clean race bonus with it, so that's good. Right now my best race time is in the high 26 minute range. Maybe 26:54 with a fastest lap in the 2:07.9 range. So nothing too impressive at this time, but I just started using it and I'm sure it will get better with more seat time.
that’s my 1st try though.😉

i’m doing evo vs sti chellenge right now, will post their times once completed. this is the fastest at the moment, 2nd is the impreza gr B road version in 26:39-ish…

I just tried the F40 for the first time tonight, looks like I have some work to do to catch up.

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8sec difference is not a lot, may be just few more consistent laps and you’ll be there or even faster.
 
I did a bunch of runs in a fully modded Lamborghini Miura. It's got similar handling character to the LP400 Countach, but with more torque and more grip issues accelerating out of low speed turns (for gorilla-handed drivers like me).

I was running ballast to balance Miura and calm down the rear end and get some more power... Until I realized I'd made the car heavier than stock after having done all the weight reductions! Before I changed the tune, I told myself that the extra weight for was chassis stiffening and safety / fire suppression equipment - which the Miura definitely needs:

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I'll revisit LP400 Countach with what I learned from the Miura (eventually).

I believe either of them can break into the 25 minute club. But I'm tired and don't feel like pushing any harder right now :lol:

Next on my to-do list is the Evo VI and the Evo Group B car. I remember not liking the Subaru version early on. Let's see if my opinion changes.

@engrmariano I need to try the Subaru 22b. Seems potentially even faster than the Celica Rally Car.

Lamborghini Miura
Best Time:
26:15.831
Fastest Lap: 2:05.781

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Wall ride almost every wall lol, Pit twice never change tires. This thing pulls so hard. I'm sure you guys can get a better tune out of it.
 

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Does this still work? I have this car with the same engine swap but I haven't try driving it yet.


Not sure. I have the car and the engine, but havent done the swap. I'm more curious to know how they still got the CRB after hitting the NSX on turn one of the 2nd lap.
 
I decided to try the engine swap and yes, it still works. In fact my build has 1195 hp and is fully built out with all the racing components, weight reduction, wide body, aero, wide wheels etc and it is 599.98pp.

Unfortunately the car is somewhat undrivable. It has so much power that you spin the tires in every gear pretty much all the way up to 200 mph. Even with traction control all the way up to 5. I adjusted the gearing thinking that would fix the problem, but no... Even with the gearing set to 600kph it is still spinning through 4th gear. You hit 245mph on the main straight and get launched into the atmosphere off the hill at the end of the tunnel. You can baby the throttle to keep the wheel spin down, but I wasn't able to do much better than a 2:07 on a perfectly dry track.

My Celica can run 2:06/2:07 lap times with much more control on a wet track. The S13 is basically undrivable in the wet. You can get past everyone on the opening straight and on the brakes in to turn 1, but to keep the car from spinning you have to go in to 3rd or 4th gear at which point the traffic catches up to you and they push you around causing you to spin out. You have no real ability to accelerate with a good enough pace to keep the AI from catching up. You either spin the tires or bog the car. Either way you end up going too slow.

I would be curious to see how this car handles Le Mans, though.
 
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Does this still work? I have this car with the same engine swap but I haven't try driving it yet.

The porsche is one of the best cars to drive that i've tried one here. Without even wall riding. The supra is so hard to drive but I did a sub 25 min race.
 

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The porsche is one of the best cars to drive that i've tried one here. Without even wall riding. The supra is so hard to drive but I did a sub 25 min race.
Can you tell me if as I think the Toyota Supra tune contains a glich? When you change the intermediate tires to another, the PR goes up
 
Can you tell me if as I think the Toyota Supra tune contains a glich? When you change the intermediate tires to another, the PR goes up

Fuel 1 on the long straight 2 on the rest. Acceleration only when car is straight and release the gas to turn. Pit after lap 5 and change tires and fuel, then again after lap 9 and change tires and enough fuel to finish.
 
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