The WTC 600 in Tokyo done without exploits is genuinely one of the hardest races in single player in gt7 - share your setups, tips, and cars

  • Thread starter The_It_Jojo
  • 2,591 comments
  • 401,809 views
I wouldn’t recommend trying to no-stop the XJ220 stock. Slow as molasses in FM6. I got up to 14th by lap 4 and said to hell with this, FM1 and wall riding to make sure I win (I also got spun by the Aston on lap 3). FM1 is a one stop, and the SH tires hold for the whole race.
 
I wouldn’t recommend trying to no-stop the XJ220 stock. Slow as molasses in FM6. I got up to 14th by lap 4 and said to hell with this, FM1 and wall riding to make sure I win (I also got spun by the Aston on lap 3). FM1 is a one stop, and the SH tires hold for the whole race.
Yea, it's kinda close but then no. I did a no stop win with weight reduction, FM mix of 1-2-4 and heavy short shifting, but was slower than bone stock car with one stop. It's a very easy car to drive though.
 
Yeah that first lap is brutal. I originally built it with racing intermediatea that lasted the whole race but the recent patch forced the swap to hards. A break might be all it takes. Cant wait to hear about you future success!
Tried this again last night. It's the hardest race I have ever tried. By far. Running a "fast" (2:37) first lap without spinning out is almost out of your control. It all depends on what the AI will do, how they jockey for position, if they have any mistakes and where those mistakes occur. Then you have to push so hard every single lap that you could spin out at any moment. Finally when you are running well, the AI pushes you in the braking zone of turn 1 or coming out of the hairpin and spins you out. It became demoralizing after 10-15 tries.
 
Last edited:
Tried this again last night. It's the hardest race I have ever tried. By far. Running a "fast" (2:37) first lap without spinning out is almost out of your control. It all depends on what the AI will do, how they jockey for position, if they have any mistakes and where those mistakes occur. Then you have to push so hard every single lap that you could spin out at any moment. Finally when you are running well, the AI pushes you in the braking zone of turn 1 or coming out of the hairpin and spins you out. It became demoralizing after 10-15 tries.
Just reading this is giving me PTSD of the first lap horrors all over again!

I wonder how Luv2Drive is getting on with his SS tire testing.

I see you did it using the Stratos, I love that car and am going to have to give the tune a whirl (beautiful livery btw)
 
Lambo Aventador LP-700-4 '11
26:34.360 Race Time
2:07.958 Fastest Lap

I won this car with the 5* roulette ticket from one of the new menu books. I already had a racing muffler and full custom suspension in my tuning parts bin from other roulette tickets, so this was mostly all free for me.

Super easy car to drive. Very minor suspension tuning. Added LSD, custom ECU (to lower power), racing brake pads and new wheels (wide/wide). Reduced the power and added a touch of ballast to maximize the pp level. If this car had Sport Mediums it would corner so much better, but with the sport hards it can kind of push a bit wide on you. It's not an understeering issue as the car is fairly neutral, it's just a lack of overall cornering grip from the crappy tires but it's really easy to manage. In any case it still destroys the competition. This was my very first race with the car and it was a walk in the park. One stop race after lap 7 for fuel (FM1) and tires and a CRB to boot.
 
Last edited:
Jaguar XJ220 - Bone Stock
26:51.100 Race Time
2:09.559 Fastest Lap

Yeah, this car has no business being this fast bone stock. A bit of understeer but still very stable with weight transfer and under heavy braking. It keeps some pretty good corner speed as well. Pretty good on fuel and very easy on tires. Maybe a racing transmission and gearing adjustments along with some fuel savings could lead to a no pit race but it sounds like that isn't going to be any faster than a quick "splash and dash" pit stop. For a first run it was about as easy to drive as the low power 4wd Lambo I posted above. I would be curious to see what this car can do with some mods
 
Still seems the same at Tokyo and Le Mans.

Actually, I've just done two Le Mans runs and inexplicably didn't get the CRB in either. Using the new Jag XJ220
I did 2 le mans runs too. Used mitsubishi gr.b and the new amg gt3 and got crb in both. Dont remember touching any car in both races, but i remember hitting the wall. Since this happened to you, i'm going to do a test run ramming ai cars, light and hard, to see if it affects crb.
 
I did 2 le mans runs too. Used mitsubishi gr.b and the new amg gt3 and got crb in both. Dont remember touching any car in both races, but i remember hitting the wall. Since this happened to you, i'm going to do a test run ramming ai cars, light and hard, to see if it affects crb.
I just did a run in a Ferrari 458, bumped a couple of cars (enough to get a red damage indicator), ran straight across the second chicane, went wide on the right hander into the first straight, and still got the CRB.

I'll test some other areas of the track today, but I think it might just be the XJ220 that it doesn't like.

Edit: just occurred to me that this thread is about Tokyo and I'm talking about Le Mans, so apologies for that!
 
Last edited:
Getting in the 2:04's at the expressway with the XJ220....
XJ220.jpg
 
Tried your Miata challenge last night - great fun! I came close with RH, but made a couple mistakes so not sure if I would have won on a clean race. Ran into the same issues as @Tommy_D on the early laps.

So I gave it a shot with SS tires, removed the ballast and lowered the rear downforce to get to 600pp.

It actually worked really well and I was outperforming the RH tires during the first 3/4 of the race. I got torpedoed by one of the AI around lap 9 and ended up coming in 2nd (barely). The AI do better when the track dries out. I think my SS time was faster, but I didn't write them down.

I'm going to give both another try tonight and I'll let you know how I fare.

Really enjoyed your YT video BTW, well-narrated!
Tried again a couple ago... finally getting around to posting

Tried again once or twice on SS - was too slow in the later laps after the track dries out and kept losing to Kokubun

Went back to RH and won on the 2nd attempt after I was more careful on lap 1. Beat him by 15 seconds with a 27:24.

Really enjoy this car on this track (after lap 1!). :)
Tokyo_Miata.jpeg
 
Tried again a couple ago... finally getting around to posting

Tried again once or twice on SS - was too slow in the later laps after the track dries out and kept losing to Kokubun

Went back to RH and won on the 2nd attempt after I was more careful on lap 1. Beat him by 15 seconds with a 27:24.

Really enjoy this car on this track (after lap 1!). :)
View attachment 1251790
Wow, way to go!!!!!!
You didn't just beat this challenge, you absolutely DESTROYED it!!!
You must have done some very impressive driving to get that sort of time.
 
Tried again a couple ago... finally getting around to posting

Tried again once or twice on SS - was too slow in the later laps after the track dries out and kept losing to Kokubun

Went back to RH and won on the 2nd attempt after I was more careful on lap 1. Beat him by 15 seconds with a 27:24.

Really enjoy this car on this track (after lap 1!). :)
View attachment 1251790
27:24?!?! Damn that's some fast driving. I havent even completed the race because I get kicked around too much. Now you need to try JaK's Porsche speedster challenge on Tokyo. JaK ran a 27:40something and won, but that was pre-1.31 release. Now that the AI is running ~15 seconds faster it may not be possible, unless the speedster can be tuned to an even higher pp level.
 
27:24?!?! Damn that's some fast driving. I havent even completed the race because I get kicked around too much. Now you need to try JaK's Porsche speedster challenge on Tokyo. JaK ran a 27:40something and won, but that was pre-1.31 release. Now that the AI is running ~15 seconds faster it may not be possible, unless the speedster can be tuned to an even higher pp level.
I would stay clear of that Porsche. The race isn't that tough it's just frustraiting as the last 2 laps your tires are so worn making it easy to spin. My time is that slow because I played it safe.

What I have never tried but am very curious about. Can Tokyo be won with an engine swapped sambabus. Has anybody attempted this?
 
I would stay clear of that Porsche. The race isn't that tough it's just frustraiting as the last 2 laps your tires are so worn making it easy to spin. My time is that slow because I played it safe.

What I have never tried but am very curious about. Can Tokyo be won with an engine swapped sambabus. Has anybody attempted this?
I dont have the engine swap for it, but then again, I'm probably not the person who could win the race anyway. I seem to be struggling with all the challenges: Van, Truck, Miata, etc.
 
I dont have the engine swap for it, but then again, I'm probably not the person who could win the race anyway. I seem to be struggling with all the challenges: Van, Truck, Miata, etc.
Well I guess your just going to have to do it in a non engine swapped sambabus 🤣

Haha I posted this challenge here because I figured you and others had a better chance of succeeding compared to me. Guess we all doubt our own skills.
 
Well I guess your just going to have to do it in a non engine swapped sambabus 🤣

Haha I posted this challenge here because I figured you and others had a better chance of succeeding compared to me. Guess we all doubt our own skills.
I was thinking of trying the race in reverse. Just need to find the right car.
 
I just did a run in a Ferrari 458, bumped a couple of cars (enough to get a red damage indicator), ran straight across the second chicane, went wide on the right hander into the first straight, and still got the CRB.

I'll test some other areas of the track today, but I think it might just be the XJ220 that it doesn't like.

Edit: just occurred to me that this thread is about Tokyo and I'm talking about Le Mans, so apologies for that!
Did 4 runs at le mans yesterday.
Xj220 no contact
Xj220 hard contact (car damage)
Mustang gr.b light contact
Hyundai gr.b hard contact
All got crb.
I have no ideia why you lost your crb.
 
27:24?!?! Damn that's some fast driving. I havent even completed the race because I get kicked around too much. Now you need to try JaK's Porsche speedster challenge on Tokyo. JaK ran a 27:40something and won, but that was pre-1.31 release. Now that the AI is running ~15 seconds faster it may not be possible, unless the speedster can be tuned to an even higher pp level.
Wow @Tommy_D @JaK-nz, I usually don't consider myself that fast, decent, but not fast. Maybe this combo of track/car just fits my style. @Tommy_D the key to the first lap is patience, moderate inputs, and stay away from the AI :). Took me several tries to figure that out LOL. Once it dries out you can really throw it around.

Anyway, yesterday I saw the XJ220 at Hagerty LCD so I picked it up, boosted it to 600pp and gave it a shot on Tokyo.

It's pretty fast... 26:50 with a 2:08.7 fast lap. I know this time can be lowered, and I can probably tighten the tune up a little as well, but it was a fun trial. Have you guys run this combo?

xj220_tokyo.jpg
 
Wow @Tommy_D @JaK-nz, I usually don't consider myself that fast, decent, but not fast. Maybe this combo of track/car just fits my style. @Tommy_D the key to the first lap is patience, moderate inputs, and stay away from the AI :). Took me several tries to figure that out LOL. Once it dries out you can really throw it around.

Anyway, yesterday I saw the XJ220 at Hagerty LCD so I picked it up, boosted it to 600pp and gave it a shot on Tokyo.

It's pretty fast... 26:50 with a 2:08.7 fast lap. I know this time can be lowered, and I can probably tighten the tune up a little as well, but it was a fun trial. Have you guys run this combo?

View attachment 1251885
Yep, ran the XJ220 bone stock with a 26:51. mid 2:09 fastest lap. I'm sure with a little tuning it's easily a mid 26 minute car.

For that Miata, I must be having a bad roll of the dice with the AI. They keep getting in the way and they push you around because you are slow with your top speed and accelerating out of the hairpin. I did add a bit of ballast to the car (I had none originally) and that helped just a little with the bumping and some stability on the first lap, but when you only weigh 1800 lbs and a 3000lb Supra hits you, there's not much you can do to not spin out. Maybe countersteer assist would help with that. I don't know.
 
Last edited:
IMG_1231.jpeg

Just a couple of bolt on parts, a stop for fuel and this big cat has paid for itself. :lol:

Fully custom diff, Custom Manual box, Racing Intercooler, Air Filter, Brakes & Pads, plus 4kgs of ballest up front to bring it under 600pp. 😉
 
Did 4 runs at le mans yesterday.
Xj220 no contact
Xj220 hard contact (car damage)
Mustang gr.b light contact
Hyundai gr.b hard contact
All got crb.
I have no ideia why you lost your crb.
Just tried it again and got the CRB. must have been a bug that needed a game restart
 
I don't think this truck has a chance at winning on hard difficulty no matter who is driving.
:mischievous:
Screenshot_20230430-210500_YouTube.jpg

(With stock engine and no cosmetic change)

I did some blocking but tried not being too aggressive.

With engine swap it is a bit overkill. So I think you mean running with the original engine?

Tried the Raptor as well but no winning
More stable and better on tyres (Can run 6 laps on SS)
Less agile, worse fuel mileage and overall slightly slower.
 
Did 4 runs at le mans yesterday.
Xj220 no contact
Xj220 hard contact (car damage)
Mustang gr.b light contact
Hyundai gr.b hard contact
All got crb.
I have no ideia why you lost your crb.
Perhaps he ignore yellow flags or didn't make it, to not overtake some car under yellow flags.
There's no other way to lose the CRB , contacts , crashes, shortcuts etc are getting penalties and that's all.
 
BWM
:mischievous:
View attachment 1252206
(With stock engine and no cosmetic change)

I did some blocking but tried not being too aggressive.

With engine swap it is a bit overkill. So I think you mean running with the original engine?

Tried the Raptor as well but no winning
More stable and better on tyres (Can run 6 laps on SS)
Less agile, worse fuel mileage and overall slightly slower.

WTF???:crazy: That's crazy. So now that this race has been beaten by a van and a truck, I think it's time someone tries it with the bus. I tried testing the shift kart but it's waaaaayyy too slow on the straight.

Edit: If someone can win with the van (I suspect JaK is already working on it) we should do a 'least PP" challenge.. Can a car with 550pp win? What about a car with less than 500pp?
 
Last edited:
Perhaps he ignore yellow flags or didn't make it, to not overtake some car under yellow flags.
There's no other way to lose the CRB , contacts , crashes, shortcuts etc are getting penalties and that's all.
ahh.... maybe I did overtake under a yellow. I seem to remember they were a couple of very wet races and the AI is pretty dumb when it's slippery
 
If someone can win with the van (I suspect JaK is already working on it) we should do a 'least PP" challenge.. Can a car with 550pp win? What about a car with less than 500pp?
Working on the Sambabus. After 4 laps of practice I got it down to a 2:14.8 with room for improvement. It will need a pitstop half way through the race and I haven't tested to see if the sports medium tires will hold up for that many laps.
The other issue is consistency as its far from the easiest can to control at its limit.

That's a really interesting Idea, finding what stuff is the least important to dump off your car to get the most out of as little PP as possible.
 
Back