The Xbox One Thread - One X & One SXBOne

[DeathSmiles]

Great news. If every Xbox One ends up being a dev kit, that is awesome. It depends on how you will be able to work it.

And ditto on the fanboy/console crap. Seriously. I never understood that. I make it a point to get whatever platform is out that plays whatever game(s) I want to play, because why not? You only hurt yourself. The companies don't care about you. Just your money.

 

[DG_Silva]

As far as I can work out on the dev kit side, you would be given a code to download a Beta copy of the game, which would need to be run in debug mode. In the past, Microsoft would sign off the software, saying it was safe for release. However, this time MS do not get involved in the process.

 

[LeMansAid]

I make it a point to get whatever platform is out that plays whatever game(s) I want to play, because why not? You only hurt yourself. The companies don't care about you. Just your money.

Very fortunate for sports organisations that people tend not to do the same thing in their arena. If everyone jumped on to the superior team, without anyone sticking with their underachieving dog of a team, sport as an industry would cease.

There actually is not much more logic to barracking for a sporting team vs barracking for a console brand. I think many actually enjoy it in the same way, whether they realise it or not. Me? I'm still with team Commodore 64.

 

[LaBounti]

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/24/xbox-one-indie-self-publishing/

Not as good as it seems to be IF this is true:

"I'm very happy to see this. After all of the developers have spoken out, they're finally listening. However, this is yet another example of them changing policy, but it sounding better than it is when the whole story is revealed. Make no mistake; while this is a great thing, it's again not the equivalent to what other platforms offer. On PS4, for example, developers can tap right into the system; use every bit of RAM and all of its power. Indies have access to everything that the AAA studios do, from platform support to development and release. The indication on Xbox One is that it's essentially XBLIG 2.0. Instead of XNA, it's Windows 8. Windows 8, which is already struggling to gain developer interest, will gain a boost from developers wishing to target the console. However, it won't be as full-fledged as published games on the system.

After my experience working with them to release on Xbox 360, I have no interest in even buying an Xbox One, let alone developing for it. The policy changes are great, but they don't undo the experience I had. I'm not ready to forget what I went through. Working with Microsoft was the unhappiest point of my career. Policies are one thing, but developer relations are another.

It's important to me that consumers don't see things as black and white. There are still strings attached to this policy change."

 

[DG_Silva]

Microsoft are being careful; they are a big target for hackers bigger than Sony, so they have to try and stop the more unscrupulous members of society from launching an internal attack.

 

[Ddrizle]

 

[DeathSmiles]

Very fortunate for sports organisations that people tend not to do the same thing in their arena. If everyone jumped on to the superior team, without anyone sticking with their underachieving dog of a team, sport as an industry would cease.

There actually is not much more logic to barracking for a sporting team vs barracking for a console brand. I think many actually enjoy it in the same way, whether they realise it or not. Me? I'm still with team Commodore 64.

I used to love playing my father's 64. IIRC it was the 'Game System' version, and not the PC or keyboard system.

 

[kennylmao]

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/24/xbox-one-indie-self-publishing/

Not as good as it seems to be IF this is true:

There's always a catch, huh?

It seems Microsoft is pulling the whole 'take away all they have and give it back to them little by little so they will see us as the good guys', intentionally or not.

 

[ussr]

Microsoft are being careful; they are a big target for hackers bigger than Sony, so they have to try and stop the more unscrupulous members of society from launching an internal attack.

Microsoft systems was always almost immediately broken, this is one of the reasons why xbox users had to pay for online gaming, so the company could at least regain some of those money lost. Seems like they don't really bother with security.

 

[Samus]

Microsoft systems was always almost immediately broken, this is one of the reasons why xbox users had to pay for online gaming, so the company could at least regain some of those money lost. Seems like they don't really bother with security.

Did you type that with a straight face?

 

[ussr]

Did you type that with a straight face?

What i wrote is pretty much self-explanatory, so i don't have to be more specific. But you do. I don't get it what you mean be straight face? is this some sort of slang you are using because i don't get it.

Microsoft XBL suffered from hackers attacks many times, their both console were always first to be cracked by hackers. There was also some incidents with stolen credit card numbers. Sony had that too but as far for system goes at least they seem to care a bit more about their security.

Judging history i am very suspicious towards Xbox One. I don't want my next game console to be connected on line 24/7, seems like their obsessed with need to control everything.

 

[phillgt2002]

Did you type that with a straight face?

 

[Samus]

It means you can't have been serious typing that.

Microsoft XBL suffered from hackers attacks many times, their both console were always first to be cracked by hackers. There was also some incidents with stolen credit card numbers. Sony had that too but as far for system goes at least they seem to care a bit more about their security.

I'm creasing up here. You're too funny.

 

[ussr]

It means you can't have been serious typing that.

I'm creasing up here. You're too funny.

Then you must be new to console gaming. First Xbox and Xbox 360 were hacked really quickly, their rival consoles PS2 and PS3 were much better secured.

I can hardly see what's funny about it, that is serious problem for Microsoft.

 

[Com Fox]

Then you must be new to console gaming. First Xbox and Xbox 360 were hacked really quickly, their rival consoles PS2 and PS3 were much better secured.

I can hardly see what's funny about it, that is serious problem for Microsoft.

I used to be apart of console gaming (still play them though) but I moved to handhelds.

 

[F1 fan]

I think he's confusing the terms cracked an hacked. Microsoft consoles (and software for that matter) have proven to be fairly easy to crack to enable piracy. As for hackers, as far as I can tell, xbl has indeed been hacked on a few occasions. The hacks weren't as severe as the psn hack but it has still been hacked.

 

[E28]

Microsoft XBL suffered from hackers attacks many times, their both console were always first to be cracked by hackers. There was also some incidents with stolen credit card numbers. Sony had that too but as far for system goes at least they seem to care a bit more about their security.

Did XBL go down for 2 months because of hacking? No. Did PSN? Yes.

Also, you seem to be moaning about 'connected 24/7' and 'spying'. You do not have to connect the XBONE to the internet any more. There is no requirement for '24/7 online'.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Then you must be new to console gaming. First Xbox and Xbox 360 were hacked really quickly, their rival consoles PS2 and PS3 were much better secured.

I can hardly see what's funny about it, that is serious problem for Microsoft.

Did XBL go down for 2 months because of hacking? No. Did PSN? Yes.

Also, you seem to be moaning about 'connected 24/7' and 'spying'. You do not have to connect the XBONE to the internet any more. There is no requirement for '24/7 online'.

This right here, go look up George Hotz and you will see why people think you are funny. E28 has it correct.

 

[Tornado]

Sony had that too but as far for system goes at least they seem to care a bit more about their security.

Microsoft systems was always almost immediately broken, this is one of the reasons why xbox users had to pay for online gaming, so the company could at least regain some of those money lost. Seems like they don't really bother with security.

 

[dice1998]

Did this seriously become a "Xbox live is better because it wasn't down for a month to overhaul the network security architecture, analyze what was compromised and fix all holes while simultaneously increase security countermeasures against future attempts to access encrypted, private data" conversation?

 

[Samus]

Did this seriously become a "Xbox live is better because it wasn't down for a month to overhaul the network security architecture, analyze what was compromised and fix all holes while simultaneously increase security countermeasures against future attempts to access encrypted, private data" conversation?

Not really, more arguing against the point made by USSR that "Seems like they don't really bother with security" and "Sony had that too but as far for system goes at least they seem to care a bit more about their security."

By the way USSR I'd like to see evidence of credit card details being stolen via hacking XBL. There has been plenty of phishing scams but that isn't hacking.

 

[F1 fan]

By the way USSR I'd like to see evidence of credit card details being stolen via hacking XBL. There has been plenty of phishing scams but that isn't hacking.

There isn't any. And you know that. Still, they have been hacked before so it doesn't necessarily prove that Xbox live is more secure. Some hackers hack in order to obtain confidential information. Others do so to prove themselves to the hacking community. If what happened to Sony is the equivalent of someone breaking into your house and stealing your documents then what happened to Microsoft was the equivalent of someone breaking in and taking a look around. Either way, both networks have been compromised. It has happened before. It can happen again.

If you're that worried about your information, you can always buy prepaid cards instead of having a credit card on file. And when you've used the prepaid card, you can stick it over the lens on your Kinect 2.0. Microsoft should market that as a feature.

 

[Youngun]

There isn't any. And you know that. Still, they have been hacked before so it doesn't necessarily prove that Xbox live is more secure. Some hackers hack in order to obtain confidential information. Others do so to prove themselves to the hacking community. If what happened to Sony is the equivalent of someone breaking into your house and stealing your documents then what happened to Microsoft was the equivalent of someone breaking in and taking a look around. Either way, both networks have been compromised. It has happened before. It can happen again.

If you're that worried about your information, you can always buy prepaid cards instead of having a credit card on file. And when you've used the prepaid card, you can stick it over the lens on your Kinect 2.0. Microsoft should market that as a feature.

Others have unlocked stuff for personal use too. Free games, apps and stuff.

 

[ussr]

By the way USSR I'd like to see evidence of credit card details being stolen via hacking XBL. There has been plenty of phishing scams but that isn't hacking.

What? There were few reported incidents like this, large majority of XBL users were afraid of their data being leaked. Some law suits being even mentioned but Microsoft handle it eventually.

 

[HighSeasHoMastr]

What? There were few reported incidents like this, large majority of XBL users were afraid of their data being leaked. Some law suits being even mentioned but Microsoft handle it eventually.

Still don't see a source here... and "large majority" is quite a claim, do you have any way to back that up? I've been an XBL subscriber since it launched back on the original Xbox, and this is the first I'm hearing of something that affected the "large majority" so I would quite like to know how I missed something that major...

 

[phillgt2002]

Confused since some of these people causing this little riot are usually the ones that talk **** about everything Xbox. Taking them seriously? I'm not.

 

[cuco33]

What? There were few reported incidents like this, large majority of XBL users were afraid of their data being leaked. Some law suits being even mentioned but Microsoft handle it eventually.

No cards were stolen with XBL. What happened is via phishing schemes people's accounts got compromised from other linked accounts, like a live.com account. People's XBL accounts were compromised and those with credit cards attached and/or with MS points remaining got wiped out and/or CCs charged for more MS points to use specifically for FIFA Ultimate Team stuff. No CC info was ever stolen from XBL. There also wasn't a large majority, but when you read the internet things tend to be blown out of proportion.

I know because I was a victim of this phishing scheme and I'm usually very good with this stuff. It's clear to me that both MS and Sony are incompetent with proper security measures and thus why neither will ever get a CC attached to my PSN/XBL accounts ever again.

 

[RACECAR]

Exactly how did the phishing scheme work?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Exactly how did the phishing scheme work?

It's quite easy, you either call or send an email, and acting as if you are a legit person of the company you "supposedly" represent, and thus ask for information that a normal group wouldn't ask. Yet it does pay to know a little bit about the person you are phishing so you can get said info. Usually a dire warning to stress out the target goes along with the phishing process.

Look up social engineering....that's all I think I will say.

EDIT: I just notice you asked about a particular scheme, and I don't know much about that scheme in particular so they probably did what I said. More likely a mass baited email.

 

[Com Fox]

I always thought that paying for online was either a little scam to get money or to cover online cost.