The Xbox One Thread - One X & One SXBOne

[Ddrizle]

Indeed, to my knowledge he hasn't been let go, at least, not yet anyway. I'd say he's skating with one leg on thin ice, but we'll see.

 

[Eks]

Here's a comment from the link Scaff posted. Well, part of it :

he has not been fired, if anything he got a promotion microsoft is in damage control at the moment

Um, what? Lol.

 

[DG_Silva]

You'll find he's been promoted so he can be signed on a new contract with a 'keep your trap shut' clause, with massive penalties if he can't.

 

[Scaff]

You'll find he's been promoted so he can be signed on a new contract with a 'keep your trap shut' clause, with massive penalties if he can't.

You don't need to do that and getting someone to sign an NDA in regard to any product in development doesn't require a new contract (I've signed a number that have come out of both Europe and the US as part of my job).

 

[DG_Silva]

I'm not suggesting an NDA for the Nextbox, I was talking about a 'how to conduct yourself in public' behavioural clause.

 

[Akira AC]

Actually, I've been following both threads (PS4 and nextbox threads), and come to think of it, what if it is not Xbox doing DRM like EA, but rather being an active streaming service like OnLive, or Gaikai.

Now, I'm aware that the thing would probably be build over similar scheme as it's older versions, however I don't think it will use optical media, develop countries use +8Mbps network speed which are enough to stream/upload data to stream 1080p games, the machine not doing the thing natively would even be theoretically capable of doing 4k gaming(if that's would be a thing anyway) with a good basic build.

Is a long shot, in fact I don't think too much that it will be the way the nextbox will be designed, however with streaming services doing processing and tasks on remote higher end machines, it would be more practical (if the infrastructure does exists) to develop a single-cheap device to serve as base to stream, and have paid online streaming services.

Is similar on how video services changed from optical media to digital online media, I, for one, don't want this to happen for consoles.

 

[Eks]

Wait, 8Mbps is enough to stream 1080p games?
Oh ok so I'm good then if streaming becomes mandatory. 👍

Oh and I agree, I much prefer a physical game copy.

 

[chromatic9]

7790 rumored for the next xbox

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/grap...hd-7790-architecture-links-it-to-xbox-720-gpu

THE XBOX 720 CONNECTION


How does this relate to the next Xbox? Typically, AMD scales down its products rather than redesign its architecture to plug price holes like the one it claims to be filling with the 7790. A significant amount of work, time and investment must have gone into developing the Bonaire architecture - the kind usually reserved for a major upgrade, not just a gap-filler. It would need to have a secondary purpose to justify such high development costs.

When talking about his company's system-on-chip designs, AMD CEO Rory Read called them “semi-custom” - creating a new part for the next Xbox lets AMD concentrate on lowering manufacturing costs and working on smaller die sizes, without having to worry about direct sales of graphics cards.

The leaked Xbox Durango development kit backs this up - Durango is apparently able to issue two primitives per clock (like the Tahiti and Pitcairn cores) but only has a 128-bit memory bus. Until the HD 7790 was announced, no such combination existed.

Of course, things aren't that simple. The proposed Durango spec has 12 Compute Units (CUs) for a total of 768 cores, compared to the 14 CUs and 896 cores found in the HD 7790. The core clock speed is apparently a lower 800MHz compared to the 1GHz 7790, although if you assume Durango uses a 1,600MHz cache clock it scales accurately with the rumoured 32MB ESRAM memory.

This might be old, sorry if so

 

[Crispy]

If it goes 100% streaming the deal is off for me buying it. I live in one of the nicest places in the country, seriously, it's ranked in the top ten. Our city is mid-middle class to upper middle class, and it is very, very developed. My neighborhood, despite being one of the first, struggles to get 1-2 MbPS. It would be absolutely no point to make it streaming only because truly, most people don't have the internet required to quickly download the games. Most people won't wait a day to download something, they want it here and now. That is the world people live in, and it will just alienate a whole bunch of people.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Actually, I've been following both threads (PS4 and nextbox threads), and come to think of it, what if it is not Xbox doing DRM like EA, but rather being an active streaming service like OnLive, or Gaikai.

Now, I'm aware that the thing would probably be build over similar scheme as it's older versions, however I don't think it will use optical media, develop countries use +8Mbps network speed which are enough to stream/upload data to stream 1080p games, the machine not doing the thing natively would even be theoretically capable of doing 4k gaming(if that's would be a thing anyway) with a good basic build.

Is a long shot, in fact I don't think too much that it will be the way the nextbox will be designed, however with streaming services doing processing and tasks on remote higher end machines, it would be more practical (if the infrastructure does exists) to develop a single-cheap device to serve as base to stream, and have paid online streaming services.

Is similar on how video services changed from optical media to digital online media, I, for one, don't want this to happen for consoles.

Regardless of the fact if it is true or not, streaming also defeats the purpose of the hard disk and the optical disk's traditional uses. According to the leaked docs, the sole purpose of the disk drive is to install games to the hard drive. Now the hard disk would serve virtually no purpose if the NextBox 100% streams games. That is both hypocritical and tyrannical.

 

[Wardez]

All these people trying to make Microsoft look bad talking up all these rumors of bad design features and anti-consumerism with no basis in fact are actually helping them.

A lot of people are becoming convinced that Microsoft's gonna drop the ball with their next system. Now Microsoft can release the most underwhelming, vanilla, sensible, and baseline package and people will call it a triumph. What a world.

 

[Luminis]

So, both consoles have basically the same CPU, but the Nextbox might come with a better GPU? Gotta wonder where the rumour comes from that the PS4 is going to provide better performance, then.

 

[DG_Silva]

It's the 8Gb of GDDR5 innit brah, it's the shizzle [ /sarcasm]

 

[dr_slump]

So, both consoles have basically the same CPU, but the Nextbox might come with a better GPU? Gotta wonder where the rumour comes from that the PS4 is going to provide better performance, then.

Since when is a weakened 7790 going to be better than the PS4 GPU, based on what we already know/ have heard?

 

[Luminis]

Since when is a weakened 7790 going to be better than the PS4 GPU, based on what we already know/ have heard?

My bad, I read it as "7970".

It's the 8Gb of GDDR5 innit brah, it's the shizzle [ /sarcasm]

I'd like to sig that

 

[MrA]

Any truth to this?

http://www.news.com.au/technology/v...pricing-and-more/story-e6frfro0-1226617430518

 

[Robin]

I'll miss the exotic, expensive but bonkers fast XDR DRAM...

If the PS4 had had 8GB XDR2 DRAM that would have been amazing.

 

[Eks]

I'll miss the exotic, expensive but bonkers fast XDR DRAM...

If the PS4 had had 8GB XDR2 DRAM that would have been amazing.

Yeah, XDR RAM is crazy fast. The PS3's XDR RAM was 3GHz I believe.

I wonder why no one uses it? Too expensive? (As you said)

 

[Scaff]

Any truth to this?

http://www.news.com.au/technology/v...pricing-and-more/story-e6frfro0-1226617430518

That first cropped up late last week I believe and the simple truth is that we don't know.

 

[Sanji Himura]

All these people trying to make Microsoft look bad talking up all these rumors of bad design features and anti-consumerism with no basis in fact are actually helping them.

A lot of people are becoming convinced that Microsoft's gonna drop the ball with their next system. Now Microsoft can release the most underwhelming, vanilla, sensible, and baseline package and people will call it a triumph. What a world.

Their silence beside the whole, "we don't comment on rumors or speculation" isn't helping their case. So far, Sony is winning the next gen race hands down because of the fact that they have been more open with the way that they have been supplying the information about the PS4 compared to last gen. 8 GB GDDR5 RAM? Sony confirmed it in their console a long time ago. We can only speculate on what MS has in theirs because of the way they are treating the press(mainstream or otherwise), so they are forced to resort to these sort of tactics to gain a mere scrap of information that the others may have missed(paraphrasing from one of my favorite Westerns).

 

[iMikeTheKing]

So far Nintendo is winning the Next gen race since it is the only next gen console that has released. Microsoft is probably smart about their approach. Talk about it too soon and people will forget about it later on. Of course it go the other way. Microsoft can do one big reveal while showing the console all at once, instead of doing a Sony and announcing the console and showing it at a later date. I guess people are too impatient to wait until the console is announced.

 

[LaBounti]

So far Nintendo is winning the Next gen race since it is the only next gen console that has released. Microsoft is probably smart about their approach. Talk about it too soon and people will forget about it later on. Of course it go the other way. Microsoft can do one big reveal while showing the console all at once, instead of doing a Sony and announcing the console and showing it at a later date. I guess people are too impatient to wait until the console is announced.

This has never happened with any major console I can remember. The people who forget aren't really interested in it in the first place and doesn't follow tech news and internet forums.

 

[iMikeTheKing]

This has never happened with any major console I can remember. The people who forget aren't really interested in it in the first place and doesn't follow tech news and internet forums.

Casual gamers, the big market most companies aim for. Some do not follow tech news and most are not on internet forums.

 

[LaBounti]

I do not think casual gamers will find out about it unless someone they know talks about it. I would say a reveal would go unnoticed to them. E3 and trade shows are not aimed at them. Advertising is, real serious gamers don't need advertisements for big products, they follow the news almost daily.

 

[iMikeTheKing]

I do not think casual gamers will find out about it unless someone they know talks about it. I would say a reveal would go unnoticed to them. E3 and trade shows are not aimed at them. Advertising is, real serious gamers don't need advertisements for big products, they follow the news almost daily.

I agree somewhat. With part of E3 being on spike and it gets commercials (at least where I live) some casual gamers do see it. I have actually talked to people who I did not expect to watch E3, watched it last year. I agree with everything else you said.

 

[LaBounti]

I'm assuming, I know guys at work who play Madden and Call of duty all the time but have no idea what E3 is.

 

[sesselpupser]

So Orth resigned, no word on whether it was voluntary or not.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...00_-microsoft-designer-adam-orth-resigns.aspx

I can't decide how I feel about this. On the one hand he didn't do Microsoft's image any good at all, but on the other hand if it's true, Microsoft aren't doing their own image any good at all either. But if it was voluntary then whatever.

 

[Imari]

So Orth resigned, no word on whether it was voluntary or not.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...00_-microsoft-designer-adam-orth-resigns.aspx

I can't decide how I feel about this. On the one hand he didn't do Microsoft's image any good at all, but on the other hand if it's true, Microsoft aren't doing their own image any good at all either. But if it was voluntary then whatever.

Hardly a surprise. Would you want this guy working for you? Can't keep his mouth shut about confidential information, and is an asshole about it to boot. There need not be any malice in the firing, but you'd absolutely have to let someone go for that.

I imagine he was offered the choice of resigning or being fired. Not that it makes much difference, anyone in the industry is going to have heard of him now.

 

[F1 fan]

So Orth resigned, no word on whether it was voluntary or not.

That's a shame. Unemployment is tough. I wonder how he'll deal with it.

 

[Eks]

Looks like Mr. Orth got..

*puts on sun glasses"

..cut off.

Edit - It sounded better in my head..