The Xbox One Thread - One X & One SXBOne
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This is the X720 thread, and we don't know anything yet. But based on Sony's presser, their own site, and interview info, the PS4 will already launch behind PC tech. CPU is not i5/i7 level. GPU is not GTX670/680/TITAN level. Same will be for X720 because both Sony and MS want to make the console powerful but affordable. We are in for some great times but PCs will be steps ahead before next gen even launches.
That isn't the point. I wouldn't expect a 3 year old $250 netbook to run latest games.
I do, so I suppose I'm legitimally disappointed with consoles that are due to release at the end of the year/early next year won't offer me better graphics than my current PC?
Exactly. My current PC will already be more powerful than the PS4. And we still don't know the specs for X720 but I'd bet it's on par with PS4 and behind PC as it stands now. Newest CPUs and GPUs are set to launch this year too, so that gap will grow ever so slightly more..
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1)It doesn't have to match the highest PC tech, they aren't in a race against PC's.
2)You started it with your "assumptions, rumors" hypocrisy when you said PC games will have higher textures. (that is an assumption) The highest demanding PC game on max can run on PS4 specs. I was just calling you out as a hypocrite.
3) The PS4's CPU is a custom chip about 4x as powerful as AMD's highest low power Desktop CPU they make now, the E2-1800 using the bobcat core. That's great for a console mediocre for a PC. but its not a PC.
Yes we all know PC gamers like to brag about how much they spend on pc's. Being ahead of curve doesn't mean anything. Its your preference, not a requirement or a standard. Come on man, try to see it from my perspective for once lol. I haven't made any false claims.
I'd agree if we all had the same jobs. I could get fired for saying something on facebook. I know better, I learn from irresponsible adults who have been fired.
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Assuming PS4 = X720 in terms of power and capabilities...
Again the initial point was that when next gen consoles launch they will be behind PCs. As is PCs NOW will be ahead of next gen consoles. I know they aren't directly competing with PCs but that wasn't the point.
PCs now have higher resolutions, better textures, more effects, faster frame rates, etc etc. That's not assumption, that's fact. Battlefield 3, Tomb Raider, Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, list goes on and on.. Only time you don't see this is when the PC gets a crap port job with little attention by the dev. This will continue next gen, only this time around PCs won't be on par with consoles at launch but rather will be ahead of the curve without even launching the new CPUs and GPUs that are due out later this year.
That's quite the assumption that the most demanding game on PC can run at max on a PS4/X720. It can run at framerates or rez but some sacrifices will be made (like when you do with inferior PC). BF4 is one example that we know of already that will be that way of PC vs next gen consoles.
I know the next gen consoles aren't PCs but they will be more and more resembling PCs this upcoming gen then any gen we've ever had before.
Not every PC gamer brags about money they spent on their systems, as most are quite humble about it. It's what they are into, the tech, and feel proud of having a rig that powerful. It isn't elitism either. I'm a gamer, and I don't hate on any platform but reality is PC will be a step or two ahead of the game. The major benefits to consoles is ease of use/convenience, lower cost and due to standardized hardware the devs can optimize things more than on the open platform that PCs are. And that still doesn't change the fact that a PC is more capable than what a console can do.
Again the initial point was that when next gen consoles launch they will be behind PCs. As is PCs NOW will be ahead of next gen consoles. I know they aren't directly competing with PCs but that wasn't the point.
PCs now have higher resolutions, better textures, more effects, faster frame rates, etc etc. That's not assumption, that's fact. Battlefield 3, Tomb Raider, Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, list goes on and on.. Only time you don't see this is when the PC gets a crap port job with little attention by the dev. This will continue next gen, only this time around PCs won't be on par with consoles at launch but rather will be ahead of the curve without even launching the new CPUs and GPUs that are due out later this year.
That's quite the assumption that the most demanding game on PC can run at max on a PS4/X720. It can run at framerates or rez but some sacrifices will be made (like when you do with inferior PC). BF4 is one example that we know of already that will be that way of PC vs next gen consoles.
I know the next gen consoles aren't PCs but they will be more and more resembling PCs this upcoming gen then any gen we've ever had before.
Not every PC gamer brags about money they spent on their systems, as most are quite humble about it. It's what they are into, the tech, and feel proud of having a rig that powerful. It isn't elitism either. I'm a gamer, and I don't hate on any platform but reality is PC will be a step or two ahead of the game. The major benefits to consoles is ease of use/convenience, lower cost and due to standardized hardware the devs can optimize things more than on the open platform that PCs are. And that still doesn't change the fact that a PC is more capable than what a console can do.
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Exactly. Or, at least, now they don't. Either way, the days of consoles dominating PCs are over so it wouldn't matter if they competed or not.
Most? Most?! More like minority, or maybe it's the friendly YouTube community who make it seem that way with words like "console peasants" or comments like, and this really ticks me off because it was on an Xbox 360 vs PS3 video, "PC master race coming through," "My PC kills these s:censored:t boxes,"
(I could go on if you like, there's lots more)
Doesn't sound too humble to me.
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Great. So you're judging everyone who games on their computer by the actions of a few 'tards who have nothing better to do with their time than lurk on Youtube and scream at Mom for more hotpockets.
That sounds fair.
Do you also assume that everyone who owns an Xbox is a rampaging fanboy who hates Sony? Because that's totally true as well, you know. I see people with Xboxes ripping on Sony all the time. [/sarcasm]
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The PS4 is got a much better processor, graphics chip and is smaller and supports 4k HD so the Xbox 720 is completely out gunned and I have preordered the PS4.
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I was actually trying to say that PC gamers do brag about their systems, and also that it may be YouTube that makes me think that way or that it makes me think that only the minority don't. Judging people wasn't the goal, but oh well.
Oh and few tards? Please, I have seen hundreds.
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Classic flame bait. Unless you have actually seen both consoles and know the final specs. But of course you haven't.
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Jesus wept.
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True, I especially love the new toasting feature. I always wanted to eat toast while playing PS.
But the absolute best is the new Xbox:
The most realistic bowling feel only on XBOX via Kinect!
(I couldn't find any stupid xbox pics, so the one above must be enough)
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Ok then, so a market research team will know the secret details of the next Xbox will they? In the same way nobody was reporting 8GB of RAM of the PS4 it's quite concievable that MS could reveal a more powerful GPU in their final machine. I'm not saying they will but simply that it's possible.
Anyway this still doesn't change the fact his post was ridiculous.
Anyway this still doesn't change the fact his post was ridiculous.
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Going by Youtube comments, most console gamers (both Xbox and PS) are uneducated, can't spell worth a damn and would rather chose death than dishonour their chosen console.
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
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"Is got a much better processor" Bwaahaa.
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I never said all PC gamers like to brag, I should have been more clear but I was tired in my original post and was semi sarcastic. But when they "do" brag they usually aren't very subtle or polite about it when they compare to consoles. Especially when no one even asks them what their build is. I'm with EKS, youtube, kotaku, gamefaqs, ign and other places are full of PC gamers who like to brag about their PC and how much better PCs are.
I get tons of replies from these people by setting off their nerd rage at those places. E28 It doesn't matter who represents the PC community, the point is too many PC gamers enjoy, like, take pleasure in being obnoxious about PC versus console. These are the type of people EKS is referring to, the ones that do not the ones that don't. I deal with it all the time having to defend facts, logic and reasonable opinions in all of these places. So I feel what EKS goes through and its not just youtube. Luminis is right about extreme console gamers too. Its the same thing how ever they usually don't start pc vs console wars. PC gamers do.
Defending EKS, Its like a person having a problem with a single person apart of something who says something inflammatory or offensive. That one person can make the whole company look bad. Just like that Microsoft creative director but in his case he upset 1000's. Apples to oranges yes but the principles are the same. You don't have to represent anyone to say what you feel.
Xbox:tup:
I get tons of replies from these people by setting off their nerd rage at those places. E28 It doesn't matter who represents the PC community, the point is too many PC gamers enjoy, like, take pleasure in being obnoxious about PC versus console. These are the type of people EKS is referring to, the ones that do not the ones that don't. I deal with it all the time having to defend facts, logic and reasonable opinions in all of these places. So I feel what EKS goes through and its not just youtube. Luminis is right about extreme console gamers too. Its the same thing how ever they usually don't start pc vs console wars. PC gamers do.
Defending EKS, Its like a person having a problem with a single person apart of something who says something inflammatory or offensive. That one person can make the whole company look bad. Just like that Microsoft creative director but in his case he upset 1000's. Apples to oranges yes but the principles are the same. You don't have to represent anyone to say what you feel.
Xbox:tup:
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They're all the same, really. It's not really PC gamers going "PC is better than your consoles", it's not really PS gamers going "my console is better than your PC/console", it's not really Xbox gamers going "my console is better than your PC/console".
It's idiots going "my stuff is better than your stuff" because they want to feel superior to others. Because they're idiots. And there's a whole darn lot of those in every camp. You get the rabid Sony fanboy who claims that the PS3 doesn't have any limitations, you have the PC gamers who looks down on anyone not spending 2,000 dollars on a twin TITAN set-up and you have Xbox gamers who think that Halo itself is worth more than Sony as a company.
It's just idiots being idiots. I've got to admit, though, personal preference will make some folks more sensitive to idiots hailing from one group than to idiots hailing from another.
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Funny, I missed it where MS officially presented the X720 and listed off their official specs.
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Gutted Speed machine has been banned,lost a valuable member seeing as you know he has seen the new XBOX 
Boooooo
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Gutted Speed machine has been banned,lost a valuable member seeing as you know he has seen the new XBOX
MS ninjas probably got to him before he revealed too much.
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