what you could do is in the beginning, turn around and travel half the track. so by the time you reach the end your car will surely have hit its top speed.
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Yes, but we don't do that here.
It doesn't help my current Project Rattlecan Esprit, as I can only do 250 on motor anyways.
And I don't run unlimited spray, so... I'll never get the record in it.
It doesn't help my current Project Rattlecan Esprit, as I can only do 250 on motor anyways.
And I don't run unlimited spray, so... I'll never get the record in it.
That would be against one of the main rules of the 300mph club. Don't wheelie, don't hit walls, and don't go backwards.
On a more positive note I felt like sharing this next video with all of you. It is not a record as it is .4 mph slower than my current GT1 record. What is of interest, to me at least, is that this run was accomplished in fourth gear instead of sixth. It's definitely one of the best racing lines that I have achieved so far and I'm kind of proud of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGeVeVGrVOc
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You gotta embed it right, just put the "GGeVeVGrVOc" in the tags
Looks legit, a little spark at the end, nothing to worry about. But I have to admit, my cell phone takes better video. if you want to do better video, you might want to look into a capture card for higher quality videos (check these out
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Good job, those speeds for a beginner are good, keep it up
So that's what the youtube tags do, thanks opendriver19a, although I'm not sure I'd call me a beginner, the only thing I'm new to GT-wise is this board. As for video quality i'm not trying to get an award for prettiest video, I'm trying to go fast.
about 30 minutes after my previous video was posted I ran a 367.1mph in 4th, saved and checked for wheelie in the vid and the tires amazingly enough were on the ground. So I fiddled around a little more and kept getting better and better speeds, although, weirdly enough, just because my speed was improving doesn't mean that my lap times were, this perplexed me a little, especially when I saw 1:17.666 pop up.
369.40mph in 4th gear with photomode at 369.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2ILa8PY__8
about 30 minutes after my previous video was posted I ran a 367.1mph in 4th, saved and checked for wheelie in the vid and the tires amazingly enough were on the ground. So I fiddled around a little more and kept getting better and better speeds, although, weirdly enough, just because my speed was improving doesn't mean that my lap times were, this perplexed me a little, especially when I saw 1:17.666 pop up.
369.40mph in 4th gear with photomode at 369.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2ILa8PY__8
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Yes, but we don't do that here.
It doesn't help my current Project Rattlecan Esprit, as I can only do 250 on motor anyways.
And I don't run unlimited spray, so... I'll never get the record in it.
@ Rotary: Many cars only go 250/1 just on motor...that's where the spray comes into the picture. Nitrous timing & a proper racing line will do it. 👍
EDIT: @ Vander: The increase in the speedo past 350~ .....questionable, but not my call. The wheels are down near the end of the run, tho. Maybe a shot of the front wheels in 5mph incriments past 350?
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I've done 308. And brick walled. Dang Esprit's ALWAYS been a pain. Hence why I have over 1000 miles behind the wheel of one. (Rattlecan itself has 550+ miles on the clock, I broke 300 without a rigidity refresh (Yikes! The Kangaroos are home!)
Vander pulled the wheels.
No car can pull that tall of an angle and still have the fronts grounded. No group C at least.
And I know from experience that the wheelie glitch seemingly need not make the front tires leave the ground either.
I had 3.73 rear gears in my 787B at Tokyo R246. Top speed was 213mph in gear. Most of the time. But there's a bump at the end of the straight that would on occasion lift the shnoze up and I'd hit 216-218. Realize that it did that in less than two tenths of a second.
Vander: Get actual photomode pics if you wish to use them to back you up, not the poor quality of those in the video.
Vander pulled the wheels.
No car can pull that tall of an angle and still have the fronts grounded. No group C at least.
And I know from experience that the wheelie glitch seemingly need not make the front tires leave the ground either.
I had 3.73 rear gears in my 787B at Tokyo R246. Top speed was 213mph in gear. Most of the time. But there's a bump at the end of the straight that would on occasion lift the shnoze up and I'd hit 216-218. Realize that it did that in less than two tenths of a second.
Vander: Get actual photomode pics if you wish to use them to back you up, not the poor quality of those in the video.
Guess you've never raced a minolta at 360, I'm waiting for DE's analysis, if he wants more video then I will make some for him, and if he still doesn't like it then I have four more videos of different runs from that are between 367.65 and 369.40 with even more tire on the ground. I don't mind people who have super high speeds giving me advice but coming from someone who's not even, as far as I can tell, on the leaderboard yet, that's a little harsh.
And if the wheelie glitch doesn't pull the wheels off the ground then it's not a wheelie. It's just utilizing the game's mechanics, much like the 4WD "dance" that doesn't pull the wheels but still leads to ungodly acceleration.
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You, Crimson_Menace are included in people I don't mind, and are not the one that comment was directed at, but getting advice from someone who constantly says he is the resident ja is needless to say, annoying.
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Now that was downright disrespectful.
I was saying what I saw. I have multiple 305-309mph runs in my Lotus Esprit, Aka Rattlecan, (Freaking 550 miles on the dang thing!), and a few 310-320 mph runs in my 787B, (Not with the semi-wheelie glitch, I use a different setup for test track. Semi-wheelie was an accident)
And I don't have to say that I'm the resident arse. Everyone knows it.
From what I saw, the car was at a rather extreme angle, akin to what my drag Cougar does on launch. My Cougar very nearly pulls the tires.
I saw daylight under the tires in the photomode pics, too.
If you truly want to remove all doubt of the speed, let someone else pull within 2mph with your EXACT setup, and have them verify as well the legality. That is, of course, if your evidence does not convince the big man of this thread, Dark Elite.
I was saying what I saw. I have multiple 305-309mph runs in my Lotus Esprit, Aka Rattlecan, (Freaking 550 miles on the dang thing!), and a few 310-320 mph runs in my 787B, (Not with the semi-wheelie glitch, I use a different setup for test track. Semi-wheelie was an accident)
And I don't have to say that I'm the resident arse. Everyone knows it.
From what I saw, the car was at a rather extreme angle, akin to what my drag Cougar does on launch. My Cougar very nearly pulls the tires.
I saw daylight under the tires in the photomode pics, too.
If you truly want to remove all doubt of the speed, let someone else pull within 2mph with your EXACT setup, and have them verify as well the legality. That is, of course, if your evidence does not convince the big man of this thread, Dark Elite.
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I have.
That was my final say in the matter.
That was my final say in the matter.
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Please don't talk rubbish.Rotary Junkie
So why did you feel the need to post again? We do not need this thread filling up with spam, or arguments, or unfounded accusations for that matter. Comparing a 365mph+ speed to what a 'drag Cougar does on launch' is utterly ridiculous. Without meaning to cause offence, you are not an experienced high-speed tuner, and you do not have the combined reference of dozens upon dozens of video verification procedures to call upon. Some of us here do, so you should be careful what you say about videos from other tuners.
This is not to say (to anybody else) that you shouldn't share your opinions on posted verfication - quite the reverse, I encourage everyone to have a say to give me more things to look at and more certainty in my decisions - but that you should not attempt to single-handedly draw a conclusion without firm evidence. This can be very offensive to members who have posted speeds after a much time spent poring over the replay to ascertain that, to the best of their knowledge, their speed is legitimate.
Moving on from this little issue, I'll review Vander's 369.40mph speed in Post 6575 now...
Well, it seems grounded to me. I'm not entirely sure about the sudden increase in acceleration above 360mph, and the suggestion that the car is lifting slightly at 360mph and coming back down at 369 is a valid one - but, the speed is still increasing at the same rate at 369mph when the close-ups come in. This makes me think that the car hasn't changed attitude since the acceleration increase, which would mean it doesn't wheelie at any point. However, as PhotoMode is entered very close to the end of the run, it is possible that the car has already started to cut acceleration at the point of the close-ups, which would put the wheels back on the ground.
So, thinking about it, the best way to verify this speed for certain is a set of PhotoMode close-ups at a point between 365 and 368mph - the point of maximum acceleration, with no chance of let-off affecting the car. Vander, if you could supply a video with this, that would put me more at ease with this speed
Opinions are, as always, welcome.
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Upon watching the 369 video, I think its close, really close
Do you happen to have the video file before you uploaded it to youtube?
Youtube degrades a lot of the quality, and it might be better if we can watch the original file on our desktop
just a suggestion
Do you happen to have the video file before you uploaded it to youtube?
Youtube degrades a lot of the quality, and it might be better if we can watch the original file on our desktop
just a suggestion
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Actually, I don't think the launch Vs 365mph comparison is that unfounded. I know that a group C has less suspension travel than my Cougar, and I know my Cougar brings the nose to full extension on launch. I saw an angle rather close to what my car does on launch from about 360 on up. And whether it be the extreme camber on the nose or that the car was actually up in the air, I saw a good bit of daylight under the fronts. Can you see where I made my assumption?
I'm sorry if I've pissed anyone off here. And, about the second part of your message that I quoted... I'm not entitled to my own opinions? Whatever.
AAaaand on a lighter note, I have a belief that I can do 300 in an XJ220. Currently brick walled at 280.
If I do pull a record (Yeah, right), I will post the main screen with the speed, and if disputed I will post my setup, as I cannot provide video.
Here's to 300!
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Rotary, don't take it as if D.E was trying plain and simple to take digs at you.. if you read it in context, really it was some sound advice which is particularly relevant to this thread.
Even amongst what would be considered similar cars, some are much more stable (in the natural resistance to wheelie sense) than others; take the Gt-One and the Minolta for example. So seeing the difference even between them, think how unrelevant a comparison to the Cougar is and also considering the massive difference between the cars. [It might have less travel but it undoubtably has a much longer wheelbase and masses of front downforce]
As for the Jaguar, hope that all goes well and look forward to seeing a speed for that car from you soon
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Even amongst what would be considered similar cars, some are much more stable (in the natural resistance to wheelie sense) than others; take the Gt-One and the Minolta for example. So seeing the difference even between them, think how unrelevant a comparison to the Cougar is and also considering the massive difference between the cars. [It might have less travel but it undoubtably has a much longer wheelbase and masses of front downforce]
As for the Jaguar, hope that all goes well and look forward to seeing a speed for that car from you soon
Pyrelli
And now we can forget whether or not my previous speeds were really really close or if I could upload the files because I went faster and this time I took more photomodes 👍 if anymore is needed just ask.***369.81mph in 4th gear***
Video verification with photomodes at 360, 365, 369 and speedo reading 370
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlw1aeNp-fo
yes I keep all of my files, but I doubt the video quality will be that different, the only camera I have access to is a cannon power shot 5 mp that can take 2 - 3 minute videos, and my tv is crap, so that's pretty much where the quality is coming from. I'm getting off work now and I'll go home and analyze the vids and see if what the photomode sections between 360 and 369/368 look like on my two replays. If they look good I'll post them up and If I see the dreaded daylight line then I will say so, either way should have something up within 3 hours or so, still have to wait for dark.
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Yep. Congrats. Ya beat mah.........
Its close, but its legit
Its close, but its legit
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We do, because the cars behave utterly differently due to the speed of air travelling around them. This means that the maximum suspension travel is greater at higher speed, because the forces involved are greater, and correspondingly the height of the nose can be greater without the wheels leaving the ground. You saw light between the front wheels - at the speed of that close-up, the wheels are most definitely on the ground. However, this speed is no longer relevant anyway.Rotary Junkie
Read my post, which Pyrelli aptly expands upon, and you might find that I said nothing of the sort. I will not publicly flog the dead horse of this matter any more, and I hope the same can be said for you.Rotary Junkie
Moving on... Nice work, Vander, glad to see a 'more certain' improvement 👍
I'll be taking a look at this new video soon.
EDIT after Post #6595 - Seems my cue to divert to PMs has been ignored, but I am now doing so myself.
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DE: Don't put words into my mouth.
I saw air (light) UNDER the front wheels. Not between them.
"This is not to say (to anybody else) that you shouldn't share your opinions on posted verfication"
That would be excluding me then, right? Be a little more careful with your wording. (a "(To RJ as well as anyone else)" or something to the effect, since you were referring to me, would have made it come off differently)
And as to the suspension travel: You're going to sit there and tell me that the front tires and suspension are getting FORCED away from the body by MUCH more than their own unsprung weight, and the suspension is being ripped apart at this speed. Okay.
I'd understand the suspension being able to be compressed further, but not pulled apart further. Metinks any more kicking of sleeping dogs should be done by PM...
Anyways, as to Vander's new speed: Great run, but the 365 mph or so pic was aimed at the front splitter instead of the bottom of the wheel... Will watch again to see if it would have been possible to get a clearer shot, but by all appearances, it looks legal!
Good Job!
EDIT: Seems it was the end run shot... Whatever.
You still did good, kid.
I saw air (light) UNDER the front wheels. Not between them.
"This is not to say (to anybody else) that you shouldn't share your opinions on posted verfication"
That would be excluding me then, right? Be a little more careful with your wording. (a "(To RJ as well as anyone else)" or something to the effect, since you were referring to me, would have made it come off differently)
And as to the suspension travel: You're going to sit there and tell me that the front tires and suspension are getting FORCED away from the body by MUCH more than their own unsprung weight, and the suspension is being ripped apart at this speed. Okay.
I'd understand the suspension being able to be compressed further, but not pulled apart further. Metinks any more kicking of sleeping dogs should be done by PM...
Anyways, as to Vander's new speed: Great run, but the 365 mph or so pic was aimed at the front splitter instead of the bottom of the wheel... Will watch again to see if it would have been possible to get a clearer shot, but by all appearances, it looks legal!
Good Job!
EDIT: Seems it was the end run shot... Whatever.
You still did good, kid.
Chaparrall 2D race car at 304.27 in 2nd gear
Video, not for verification purposes, though it would pass, merely for entertainment value, a car that takes 17 seconds to hit 60mph going all the way and passing 300mph. I love the throatiness of this engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwEJAAJFahU
quote of the day has to go to DE: "I will not publicly flog the dead horse of this matter anymore."
Video, not for verification purposes, though it would pass, merely for entertainment value, a car that takes 17 seconds to hit 60mph going all the way and passing 300mph. I love the throatiness of this engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwEJAAJFahU
quote of the day has to go to DE: "I will not publicly flog the dead horse of this matter anymore."
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If my memory serves, when he first posted he said he wouldn't flog it at all.
Anyways, good job on the Chapparal! But the J would look soo much better... Ah well.
Anyways, good job on the Chapparal! But the J would look soo much better... Ah well.
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I reckon <help me with the name here> would have you beat on the acceleration stakes, getting a 2D to 300mph in first gear...
<I can never remember who it was. Tattoo it on my arse for me if I forget again!>
Anyway, nice work. 👍
Your GT-One video will be checked out tomorrow morning, sorry for the delays on that
Oh, and thank you.
DE
<I can never remember who it was. Tattoo it on my arse for me if I forget again!>
Anyway, nice work. 👍
Your GT-One video will be checked out tomorrow morning, sorry for the delays on that
Oh, and thank you.
DE
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Ahem, could it be MasterStorm?
Member of the 300mph Club :: 300mph Leaderboard
- Pilot of multiple high speed records.
- Pilot of the outright fastest car in Gran Turismo :: Tommy Kaira ZZ-II @ 380.32mph.
- First pilot over 300mph in first gear.
- First pilot to travel at over 600kph with all 4 wheels grounded.
From his sig.
Member of the 300mph Club :: 300mph Leaderboard
- Pilot of multiple high speed records.
- Pilot of the outright fastest car in Gran Turismo :: Tommy Kaira ZZ-II @ 380.32mph.
- First pilot over 300mph in first gear.
- First pilot to travel at over 600kph with all 4 wheels grounded.
From his sig.
I reckon <help me with the name here> would have you beat on the acceleration stakes, getting a 2D to 300mph in first gear...
<I can never remember who it was. Tattoo it on my arse for me if I forget again!>
Anyway, nice work. 👍
Your GT-One video will be checked out tomorrow morning, sorry for the delays on that
Oh, and thank you.
DE
I tried sooo hard to make it in first, but that will require much more extensive testing and probably another 2D. I got it up to about 287 in first and will keep trying, and have been able to get the 2J to 290 in first, but I seriously doubt the 2J can accomplish 300.
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