"Three Legendary Cars" Trophy

[TAU_GTP]

FWIW the German text of the trophy clearly states "Obtained three legendary race cars that once won a 24-hour race". With that said I now definitely have more than three cars from the Hagerty dealer that fit this requirement...oh well, time will tell.

The people who actually aim to get the world's first Platinum must be going crazy with every new drop though since so many people sit at 97% completion now

Me I just want it done so I can focus on collecting all the cars I want, I don't really care if I'm the 5th or 50,000th player to unlock it.
In terms of dealer inventory I'm eagerly awaiting the 1929 Mercedes, really liked driving it in the Music Rally.

 

[ballyn]

It will be expensive for sure, you can count on double million figures (over 10 million) on it. Probably even more expensive than the XJ13.

But it won't cost 20 million, and certainly not above it. IRL cars like the Shelby, the Alfa 8C and the 250 GTO are more expensive and they cap at 20 million.

The only "ultra" expensive cars left to appear are the 330 P4 and the Jaguar D-type, and potentially the F1 GTR.

The Shelby Daytona Coupe and the Mercedes S Barker Tourer have been seen on reviewers/state of plays releases but on since March 4th, these two are confirmed 20 million each.

Well, previously the Mark IV, 330 P4 and XJ13 were all 20million Cr. cars in GT and would have been considered the "end game grinds" or ultimate unicorns. However, all that changed in this edition with the Hagerty pricing index. The Mark IV was 4.6m iirc and the Jaguar XJ13 was 12 or 13m. Not sure what the 330 P4 real value is but seeing the GTO 250 capped at 20million instead of 48-80 million gives me hope the 330 P4 will be cheaper than previously priced.

 

[Jump_Ace]

Lame-sauce. I was certain when I saw all those beauties lined up in the LCD I was gonna get platinum. I even bought them right on the top of the hour (I won't say how long I waited )


Jerome

 

[TAU_GTP]

Well, previously the Mark IV, 330 P4 and XJ13 were all 20million Cr. cars in GT and would have been considered the "end game grinds" or ultimate unicorns. However, all that changed in this edition with the Hagerty pricing index. The Mark IV was 4.6m iirc and the Jaguar XJ13 was 12 or 13m. Not sure what the 330 P4 real value is but seeing the GTO 250 capped at 20million instead of 48-80 million gives me hope the 330 P4 will be cheaper than previously priced.

Since it might not have been originally intended to raise the credit cap (or at least not this soon) I wouldn't say it's out of the question that an upcoming "economy adjustment" will see prices go beyond 20m eventually.

 

[Eggstor]

It has to be the 330 P4... If the likes of the 787B, Sauber, XJR-9, 917K, Mark IV, 300SL W194, a combination of all of these didn't trigger the trophy then we can absolutely rule out the 962C and the F1 GTR '95.


It just pisses me off because the description of the trophy is not only terribly misleading, but it can be argued to be outright wrong.

Ferrari 330 P4 - This car in the game never won anything. A different 330 P4 won Daytona 24hr.
Jaguar XJ13 - Never raced.
Ford Mark IV - The only one with the correct year and livery that won a 24 hr race

This also means I won't be among the first people to get the Plat because I missed out on the Mark IV and XJ13... Damn it. If only I knew back then of the AFK script.

That actually leaves the Mark IV in play (unless somebody who picked that up just picked up the 787B and XJR-9 and didn't have the trophy pop). The Sauber that's in the game (#63) isn't the one that won Le Mans in 1989 (#62).

Strike that; I read from the qualifying table. The #62 was the pole sitter; the #63 was the winner.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

Me I just want it done so I can focus on collecting all the cars I want, I don't really care if I'm the 5th or 50,000th player to unlock it.
In terms of dealer inventory I'm eagerly awaiting the 1929 Mercedes, really liked driving it in the Music Rally.

Imagine myself... Who could've had all of Gran Turismo games Platinums... But lost the account which had the GT5 Platinum back in 2012... And then when I went to try and Platinum the game again, servers shut down and 2 absolutely easy online trophies will forever let a 98% stain on my GT5 trophy list.

Still got the GT5 Gold Standart trophy , which in terms of rarity is still one of the rarest trophies ever.

 

[TAU_GTP]

Imagine myself... Who could've had all of Gran Turismo games Platinums... But lost the account which had the GT5 Platinum back in 2012... And then when I went to try and Platinum the game again, servers shut down and 2 absolutely easy online trophies will forever let a 98% stain on my GT5 trophy list.

Still got the GT5 Gold Standart trophy , which in terms of rarity is still one of the rarest trophies ever.

I missed out on the GT5 Platinum as well. GT7 won't nearly feel like as much of an achievement as GTS did either. It's as least as easy as GT6 was. Somehow I'm still proudest of my 100% saves in the old titles

 

[awildo]

So these 4 are left right ?

330 P4
McLaren F1 GTR Kokusai Kaihatsu
Porsche 962
Jaguar D-Type

That won Le Mans.

 

[ballyn]

Since it might not have been originally intended to raise the credit cap (or at least not this soon) I wouldn't say it's out of the question that an upcoming "economy adjustment" will see prices go beyond 20m eventually.

Yeah that's why I'm trying to be hopeful the necessary car comes before any potential adjustments to car pricing.

Also, I've seen a few different translations to the wording, "born to win", "birthed to win", "destined to win" and designed to win. This is definitely one that has gotten lost in translation somewhere in my opinion.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

I missed out on the GT5 Platinum as well. GT7 won't nearly feel like as much of an achievement as GTS did either. It's as least as easy as GT6 was. Somehow I'm still proudest of my 100% saves in the old titles

I was mad about it because GT5's Platinum is one of the most prestigious Platinums of the PS3. If not the most. It's a first party Sony Title AAA game that was not only incredibly hard to Platinum, but also grindy... It took about 600 hrs (skill dependant).

In terms of difficulty I'd say:

GT5: 9.5/10
GT Sport: 9/10
GT7: 6/10
GT6: 4/10

GT6 was way too easy.

 

[sh33p]

I missed out on the GT5 Platinum as well. GT7 won't nearly feel like as much of an achievement as GTS did either. It's as least as easy as GT6 was. Somehow I'm still proudest of my 100% saves in the old titles

I've 100% completed all the major GT games and looking forward to adding the Gt7 plat to my gt5,gt6 and GTs collection

This trophy really is a joke though - if it wasn't time gated via this dealership then I would have completed it within a week of release
(I personally would have preferred it if this game had WAY more content and it took this long because that's how long it took to Gold every event but... it is what it is)

 

[Grimm6Jack]

Also, I've seen a few different translations to the wording, "born to win", "birthed to win", "destined to win" and designed to win. This is definitely one that has gotten lost in translation somewhere in my opinion.

The translation is not lost, I literally posted in the OP, the literal translation is "born to win". PS: I can read japanese, not as fluent as actual japanese people because Kanji is still a pain, but I have a link where it has all of them and can "translate" them. Context is key more than the actual literal meaning btw.

PD just did it on purpose to misguide you, for whatever reason.
It definitely wasn't unintentional, that's for sure. You can't mess up on the history of the cars, especially these guys who are definitely enthusiasts and study cars for a living.

 

[StingrayX]

There are 3 cars currently in the Legends shop with the hash tag #Le Mans, I wonder if they count towards the trophy.

 

[jper75]

I still remember those 24 hour races in gt5! Did la Sarthe in a weekend. driving for hours at night felt endless

 

[kowalski__1]

Is anyone else here seeing the irony in all this?
If indeed, the 3 cars needed are 330,Jag and Mark IV,....they literally gave us for free 2 of those cars in GTS or aleast had the chance to win them free,no charge.
Now in GT7,they put 2 up early when most people could not afford one,nevermind both and their holding out on the 330,,lol,😂

 

[ballyn]

The translation is not lost, I literally posted in the OP, the literal translation is "born to win". PS: I can read japanese, not as fluent as actual japanese people because Kanji is still a pain, but I have a link where it has all of them and can "translate" them.

PD just did it on purpose to misguide you, for whatever reason.
It definitely wasn't unintentional, that's for sure. You can't mess up on the history of the cars, especially these guys who are definitely enthusiasts and study cars for a living.

Ok but the post I responded to has the translation to German as "Obtained three legendary race cars that once won a 24-hour race". Which is an explicit statement and not an allusion, in the case of "born to win/destined to win" and therefore we can surmise that something was changed or lost in the translation.

You can definitely interpret the requirements for the trophy differently based on an explicit statement or an allusion. It doesn't have to be a attempt to misguide anyone, or purpose or not.

It's easy to determine all the cars who have actually won a 24 hour race, but the cars in game would need the exact liveries and race numbers to be legitimate.

Conversely, being born to, or destined to do something, doesn't mean you actually achieved it.

Edit: Here's a nice article about my 3 guesses as to which cars were once, born to win a 24 hour race; https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/news/02_0005293.html (taken from a post on Reddit).

 

[Grimm6Jack]

Ok but the post I responded to has the translation to German as "Obtained three legendary race cars that once won a 24-hour race". Which is an explicit statement and not an allusion, in the case of "born to win/destined to win" and therefore we can surmise that something was changed or lost in the translation.

You can definitely interpret the requirements for the trophy differently based on an explicit statement or an allusion. It doesn't have to be a attempt to misguide anyone, or purpose or not.

It's easy to determine all the cars who have actually won a 24 hour race, but the cars in game would need the exact liveries and race numbers to be legitimate.

Conversely, being born to, or destined to do something, doesn't mean you actually achieved it.

Edit: Here's a nice article about my 3 guesses as to which cars were once, born to win a 24 hour race; https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/news/02_0005293.html (taken from a post on Reddit).

Yes, those are "not 100% correct" translations (German, English, etc).

But no, the trophy description is misleading. It says "Obtain 3 cars that were at one time born to win Le Mans", and with this criteria, you have almost 10 of them in the game.

And yet, as we are in a few days going to be shown, it is actually 3 exact cars and not 3 out of X number of cars with that criteria.

The correct trophy description should've been 1 of these two choices:

"Buy a Ferrari 330 P4, Ford Mark IV and Jaguar XJ13"

or

"Buy 3 legendary cars that were once destined to meet with each other at Le Mans in the past"

The 2nd choice being a not so direct one, but not misleading either because, correct me if I'm wrong, these are the only 3 cars in the game that were supposed to be each others rivals in one year of Le Mans.
EDIT: The only other cars that would fit this cryteria would be the 962C, Sauber C9 and XJR-9 which I think met each other in 1989.

 

[RustyMaggots]

But no, the trophy description is misleading. It says "Obtain 3 cars that were at one time born to win Le Mans", and with this criteria, you have almost 10 of them in the game.

And yet, as we are in a few days going to be shown, it is actually 3 exact cars and not 3 out of X number of cars with that criteria.

The correct trophy description should've been 1 of these two choices:

"Buy a Ferrari 330 P4, Ford Mark IV and Jaguar XJ13"

or

"Buy 3 legendary cars that were once destined to meet with each other at Le Mans in the past"

The 2nd choice being a not so direct one, but not misleading either because, correct me if I'm wrong, these are the only 3 cars in the game that were supposed to be each others rivals in one year of Le Mans.
EDIT: The only other cars that would fit this cryteria would be the 962C, Sauber C9 and XJR-9 which I think met each other in 1989.
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I'm just now joining this conversation but I'm wondering if if there are any cars yet 100% confirmed to count for this trophy.

 

[Lotrzyna]

"Buy 3 legendary cars that were once destined to meet with each other at Le Mans in the past"

The 2nd choice being a not so direct one, but not misleading either because, correct me if I'm wrong, these are the only 3 cars in the game that were supposed to be each others rivals in one year of Le Mans.
EDIT: The only other cars that would fit this cryteria would be the 962C, Sauber C9 and XJR-9 which I think met each other in 1989.

And how about Audi, Peugeot, Toyota, Porshe from the 2010's?(these are not in the LCD though)

 

[ballyn]

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Yes, those are "not 100% correct" translations (German, English, etc).

But no, the trophy description is misleading. It says "Obtain 3 cars that were at one time born to win Le Mans", and with this criteria, you have almost 10 of them in the game.

And yet, as we are in a few days going to be shown, it is actually 3 exact cars and not 3 out of X number of cars with that criteria.

The correct trophy description should've been 1 of these two choices:

"Buy a Ferrari 330 P4, Ford Mark IV and Jaguar XJ13"

or

"Buy 3 legendary cars that were once destined to meet with each other at Le Mans in the past"

The 2nd choice being a not so direct one, but not misleading either because, correct me if I'm wrong, these are the only 3 cars in the game that were supposed to be each others rivals in one year of Le Mans.
EDIT: The only other cars that would fit this cryteria would be the 962C, Sauber C9 and XJR-9 which I think met each other in 1989.

I guess I'm just choosing to believe they (PD) were trying to be mysterious rather than purposely misleading anyone. It has certainly sparked enough discourse and mystery, so far.

Had they specified exactly which cars it would have just been an arbitrary time gated waiting game. Actually wait... it is haha.

Coming to these forums to speculate has been more entertaining for me than obtaining the cars.

Driving them is another story though.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

And how about Audi, Peugeot, Toyota, Porshe from the 2010's?(these are not in the LCD though)

Exactly...

EDIT: But yes, the Toyota TS050, the Porsche 919 Hybrid and the Audi R18 e-tron met in the 2016 24hr Le Mans. By the way, in what was probably the biggest heartbreak in Le Mans history... Toyota with the lead number 5 car breaking down with 1 LAP (~3 minutes) to end the race.

Peugeot didn't meet any other car in Le Mans aside from the Audi R18 from 2011.

 

[Eggstor]

EDIT: The only other cars that would fit this cryteria would be the 962C, Sauber C9 and XJR-9 which I think met each other in 1989.

That they did. The Saubers finished 1-2 (and I was wrong about the incorrect livery; I read from the qualifying table, not the finishing table), a 962C finished 3rd, and a XJR-9 finished 4th.

 

[Eggstor]

Now that we have had 4 #Le Mans-tagged winners in the correct year and livery, and the trophy hasn't dropped, we're down to two possibilities (thanks for suggesting the second, @Grimm6Jack)

• A virtual repeat of the GT5 trophy - 1967 Ford Mark IV Race Car, 1966 Jaguar XJ13 and 1967 Ferrari 330 P4 (yet to appear), which were supposed to meet in the 1967 24 Hours of Le Mans, but didn't because Jaguar pulled the XJ13 before it raced.
• An updated virtual repeat of that trophy - 1989 Mercedes-Benz Sauber Mercedes C9, 1988 Jaguar XJR-9 and 1988 Porsche 962C (yet to appear), which actually did meet in the 1989 24 Hours of Le Mans (the last one without the chicanes on the Mulsanne Straight).

I missed out on the cars offered so far, but I'm really hoping it's the latter because of the prices.

 

[jrbabbitt]

Coming to these forums to speculate has been more entertaining for me than obtaining the cars.

D I T T O

 

[ederss7]

The first time I read about this trophy was in this thread. For me the words "that were ONCE destined to win" made clear they don't need to be winners or cars that participated in any race.

 

[Nuschel01]

Owning the 917K, XJR-9 and 787b doesn't trigger the trophy.

 

[Jijikkk]

That actually leaves the Mark IV in play (unless somebody who picked that up just picked up the 787B and XJR-9 and didn't have the trophy pop). The Sauber that's in the game (#63) isn't the one that won Le Mans in 1989 (#62).

Strike that; I read from the qualifying table. The #62 was the pole sitter; the #63 was the winner.

Correct!

 

[GBalao888]

So these 4 are left right ?

330 P4
McLaren F1 GTR Kokusai Kaihatsu
Porsche 962
Jaguar D-Type

That won Le Mans.

The 330 P4 never won Le Mans, while the Porsche 962 C, well, the longtail version won in 1987 (so it's not the same car as we have), and that the Jaguar D-type won a year later in the controversial 1955 Le Mans.

 

[Tekku]

I’m honestly getting a bit tired of all this guessing. All it means is that some people will get it wrong and then they have to wait for a long time until the valid cars re-appear again. Just announce the info and let people cool down for a bit so that they can spend some money in a comfortable manner.

 

[Ginger_42]

I still remember those 24 hour races in gt5! Did la Sarthe in a weekend. driving for hours at night felt endless

I remember doing them and finding it hard on the last 2 hours on a Sunday morning , swapping seats with my dad to play.

Gt5 was without a doubt one of the best in the series for that, playing it with my dad on a g25 steering wheel and spending hours 100's of hours.
This was before I became a completionist so I never got the platinum but I did get a lot of gold's!

6 had the same feel but I never played it with my old man, so it wasn't the same. Got a platinum tho same for sport. Sport being the hardest yet, 6 was just long winded for platinum! Special stage X going in loops!!

Now that we have had 4 #Le Mans-tagged winners in the correct year and livery, and the trophy hasn't dropped, we're down to two possibilities (thanks for suggesting the second, @Grimm6Jack)

• A virtual repeat of the GT5 trophy - 1967 Ford Mark IV Race Car, 1966 Jaguar XJ13 and 1967 Ferrari 330 P4 (yet to appear), which were supposed to meet in the 1967 24 Hours of Le Mans, but didn't because Jaguar pulled the XJ13 before it raced.
• An updated virtual repeat of that trophy - 1989 Mercedes-Benz Sauber Mercedes C9, 1988 Jaguar XJR-9 and 1988 Porsche 962C (yet to appear), which actually did meet in the 1989 24 Hours of Le Mans (the last one without the chicanes on the Mulsanne Straight).

I missed out on the cars offered so far, but I'm really hoping it's the latter because of the prices.

Out of these cars, which have already appeared? I don't have any so I won't be getting the platinum soon.
I was too busy on other features on march 4th 😁
Cheers