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I still like the brake to feel realistic but much prefer the conical mod to the T3pa Pro Version 1 mod (V 1 mod in picture below), and even that is better than no mod at all. I find I really need some resistance to be able to modulate the brakes. I was very lucky I'd bought the T500 because the Mode button made the conversion as simple as a press of one button and instant left foot accelerator, press it again and my mates can have a go without changing anything (also the reason for the T-GT).
Regarding the patience and determination, cheers, but it's more a case of give up and go slowly insane from boredom, or keep at it and have a great time (and a lotta laughs) with some top blokes while gaining confidence for both sim and real driving. I know which path I choose to follow.
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Perhaps Csl elite would fit you much better? The way their designed is very modular instead the fixed position of the t3pa pro.I still like the brake to feel realistic but much prefer the conical mod to the T3pa Pro Version 1 mod (V 1 mod in picture below), and even that is better than no mod at all. I find I really need some resistance to be able to modulate the brakes. I was very lucky I'd bought the T500 because the Mode button made the conversion as simple as a press of one button and instant left foot accelerator, press it again and my mates can have a go without changing anything (also the reason for the T-GT).
Regarding the patience and determination, cheers, but it's more a case of give up and go slowly insane from boredom, or keep at it and have a great time (and a lotta laughs) with some top blokes while gaining confidence for both sim and real driving. I know which path I choose to follow.
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I looked at Fanatec gear thoroughly before I decided to go for a Thrustmaster product again. The Csl elites were also on my radar as a possible add-on but I decided against that route because the clutch and throttle are sprung differently to each other unlike the Thrustmaster pedals where they're both the same. It's was very important to me that my set-up is easily switched from left to right throttle and not have any difference in feel from one to the other, something I couldn't accomplish with any of the Fanatec range but is very easy with the Thrustmaster range (via the Mode button). I have swapped the throttle pedal plates to the left side on both sets (home ground advantage over my friends
) and there's more than enough adjustment with the plates for me. In the end it was ease of use for me that one out. If it wasn't for my slightly unique circumstances I think my decision would have been much tougher, and to be honest, I probably would have gone with Fanatec (PS4 CSL Elite with V3 pedals) if things weren't as they are. But in saying that, I'm still very happy with my T-GT, and it's definitely an improvement over my old T500 (which would have well over 500,000 kms on it in GT5/6 alone).
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There is discount code for all thrustmaster gear for the official webshop! 20% off! A good opportunity to get the T-GT for €640. BLACKFRI17
I got the the TGT and i am sim racing addict. I had the G29 and for GT sport the TGT is better base then the CSL i used.
My money went on the top Base and that is the TGT.
Fanatic pedals are better, but i will get some better high end custom pedals later for my Vesaro rig and base.
CSL is also good. Not like it is a MOMO 2004 wheel. its clean tech from fanatec and so too is the TGT from thrustmasnter.
But the TGT is better.
No brainer if your a GT guy
My money went on the top Base and that is the TGT.
Fanatic pedals are better, but i will get some better high end custom pedals later for my Vesaro rig and base.
CSL is also good. Not like it is a MOMO 2004 wheel. its clean tech from fanatec and so too is the TGT from thrustmasnter.
But the TGT is better.
No brainer if your a GT guy
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I agree with you. While I think that the CSL is better built. In fact I use it on PC. On PS4 (GT Sport, Project Cars 2 and AC), I do prefer the T-GT. I do think that the price is stupidly high with those horrible pedals. Luckily enough I have the CPX adapter to play with the V3.
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So my replacement T-GT arrived. Calibration cut outs and refusal to work in that one port just like the previous one so I'm guessing that is some sort of weird glitch that happens with the combination of my PC + the T-GT specifically rather than a fault. Interestingly if I put it in GT mode then it calibrates fine but then of course isn't recognised by the computer. This time the right paddle clicks too early in the travel the blue stitching has a more-annoying-than-it-should-be loose thread.
Due to sales circumstances I also bought two TS-PCs for the rim as well and the right paddle on one of those had the same problem. So 3/4 TM wheels I've had in the last couple of weeks have had dodgey paddles. The 2nd T-GT also feels more coggy than the first one and the fan makes a high pitched squeal when the fan is on low mode or whatever. Thumbs up for Thrustmaster's Chinese factory!
Due to sales circumstances I also bought two TS-PCs for the rim as well and the right paddle on one of those had the same problem. So 3/4 TM wheels I've had in the last couple of weeks have had dodgey paddles. The 2nd T-GT also feels more coggy than the first one and the fan makes a high pitched squeal when the fan is on low mode or whatever. Thumbs up for Thrustmaster's Chinese factory!
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That’s bad luck. Had to change my 599xx Evo for 1 faulty paddle as well. New one is no problem. Did you try another pc so you can rule out the USB port?
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Yeah it cuts out in all ports on my W7 desktop and W8 laptop. Going back a bit further I've had 4 Thrustmaster rims before these and the only one with a faulty paddle click was a used F1 rim. Idk can 3/4 T-GT/TS-PC rims being faulty just be bad luck or did they find a cheaper factory? Squeal seems to be a bit quieter and I've managed to improve the paddle issue by taking it apart and swapping the springs around. The cogging is really annoying to be honest. Weird how the TS-PC can be so smooth in comparison. I can actually feel it while driving at low-medium speeds unlike the TS-PC and TX. What's it like on yours?
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Mine also quite smooth. Smoother then out of the box. But maybe I got accustomed real fast? I also came from a G29 though. Did you notice difference between the new ts-pc and the one you already used? I heard this theory that the belt notches wear in over time.
On another note. Why do you so many wheels?
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Looking at SRG review mine seems to be as bad as that but yeah the notches seem smaller - hers seem the size of my TX. Comparison video (turn volume to max and you'll need headphones/subwoofer to hear):
Yeah I know they're needed to stop it slipping, probably it's worse than the TX because they need to be to account for the more powerful motor, but nevertheless it shouldn't make this level of vibration if the TS-PC doesn't.
The unused TS-PC seems to be the same as the one I've used for a bit (although we're talking a few hours not weeks/months). Hopefully it will smooth out a little over time. I don't think I can be bothered sending it back again to be honest and it's not unbearable just a bit annoying, plus I might just get another one with the same issue or another broken paddle or maybe even broken pedals. Maybe I could swap the TS-PC belt into the T-GT lol?
TX rim that came with the TX, upgraded to 28 GT for the nicer construction, then the 599XX came out straight after that and wanted the bigger size and grip extensions, then wanted a formula rim so got an Ferrari F1 rim, then wanted a PS4 wheel + TS-PC rim so got a TS-PC, but then it went on sale for a fair bit cheaper during Black Friday so got another, then got the T-GT and then got a replacement T-GT due to the first one's issues.
Yeah I know they're needed to stop it slipping, probably it's worse than the TX because they need to be to account for the more powerful motor, but nevertheless it shouldn't make this level of vibration if the TS-PC doesn't.
The unused TS-PC seems to be the same as the one I've used for a bit (although we're talking a few hours not weeks/months). Hopefully it will smooth out a little over time. I don't think I can be bothered sending it back again to be honest and it's not unbearable just a bit annoying, plus I might just get another one with the same issue or another broken paddle or maybe even broken pedals. Maybe I could swap the TS-PC belt into the T-GT lol?
TX rim that came with the TX, upgraded to 28 GT for the nicer construction, then the 599XX came out straight after that and wanted the bigger size and grip extensions, then wanted a formula rim so got an Ferrari F1 rim, then wanted a PS4 wheel + TS-PC rim so got a TS-PC, but then it went on sale for a fair bit cheaper during Black Friday so got another, then got the T-GT and then got a replacement T-GT due to the first one's issues.
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Damn you must be big thrustmaster fan! But buying a ts-pc for just the rim? I considered it but ultimately decided to wait for the bt led display to come out first. Im convinced the open wheel rim will follow soon after. That rim with the upcoming display might be even better then the fanatec formula rim.
I came from a G29 and find the T-GT very smooth during operation. Don’t notice any notches at all. Only when not driving there are notches there. But still a large improvement over the G29.
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Well yeah, I'd like them to improve their build quality based on what I've seen but when got my TX (which I loved), Fanatec's offering was literally just the Clubsport base for like 3 times the price so there wasn't much choice and after that it just made more sense to get new TM rims rather than go over to the Fanatec CSL. I would also have waited for the new open wheel rim (I think I saw a thread that said it was definitely happening) but I got the 2nd TS-PC at £350 so by selling the base I will have got the rim for £50-100 depending on the price it sells for and when they release the standalone version it will be probably £150. If it has a built in display then I guess I'll have missed out on that but to be honest I never really took notice of the one on my Fanatec CSR and that could bump the price up even more.
The TS-PC just randomly turned off while I was typing. Unplugged and replugged several times and still dead. Switched off at the wall, heard a little click, turned back on and now it works again. Urge to buy Fanatec... Rising...
Edit: And it's just turned itself off again while using it
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Which CSL do you have, the xbox one or the PS4 one?
What do you think makes the T-GT better or why do you prefer it in those games?
The reason I ask is I bought the T-GT and I wish I could return it and I was thinking of getting the CSL because the T-GT does not live up to my expectations. The main problem I have is the cogging, it is kind of like driving a car with a steering rack full of sand. I like the strength, I even like the pedals. I don't care for the vibration effect in GT Sport and it actually bothers me a bit because it doesn't feel natural or realistic to me. I thought it would add to the experience but I don't think it has been implemented well. I even tried switching to the "Other" Mode on the wheel but the base FFB doesn't feel the same in that mode which is also disappointing. The T-GT does feel really good with all my games and my main issue with it is that gritty feeling from the cogging so I was thinking the Fanatec CSL being smoother, having the load cell option and having the flexibility of user settings on the wheel would make it a much better wheel for the PS4 for the same money.
Mine is exactly like in the reviews.
I considered it might be the belt but the problem is my wheel has less cogging when it is switched off.
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Why don't you try it out by yourself? We will send you a CSL and if you like you can make a review here at GT Planet and let the others know.
If you like the CSL Wheel better then you keep it and if not then you just send it back and get a full refund incl. shipping cost.
Send me a PM if you are interested.
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That's odd, like others I can only feel the belt notches (cogging) when the wheel is turned off, and hardly at all then, when it's in use in GT Sport I can't feel any. Could it be the settings you're using? I run mine on fairly low FFB due to on going shoulder issues (torque 3 and sensitivity 5), maybe play around with these a bit?
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If you watch the video reviews you can see the cogging in the game, mine is the same. The cogging is most noticeable and easiest to feel at times of low force or when I use a low FFB setting.
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My T-GT doesn't have the same problem as your or the one in the review. Yes some cogging is there, and you can feel when is turn it off with small movment, but when I play it is fine.
I have the CSL PS4 elite with the F1 Carbon Rim and the V3. Plus I still keep my G29.
While I think that the Fanatec package is the better value for the money, because it has a way better set of pedals (either the Elite with loadcell or the V3), hardly you will go back to non loadcell brake, and the wheelbase is built greatly, I am not sold it of the beavhe on PS4. On PC there is no discussion. Get a Fanatec bundle and be happy, but on PS4 in my opinion it doesn't work at his full potential.
I will keep both the CSL and the T-GT. So this is what I think, the CSL is smoother, better built, better add on and better pedals. This should be enough for the CSL to be better overall on PS4 but I value more feeling and the feedback that a wheel gives you while you drive, and the T-GT (but even the T300), gave me way more information about the car and his behave that the CSL at the moment can give. This is what I value more and Thrustmaster product on PS4 are doing this better. Probably because they are there since the beggining of PS4 and the CSL is new and the compatibility is in progress. Take this as my opinion that you can disagree, not as a supreme thruth.
I have other friends in the league where I race that have the same feeling. Drivers that play both on PS4 and on PC with IRacing. One of them did keep the Elite pedals but sold the baseand went back to the T300 and the CPX. Take in mind that I use the the T-GT with the V3 (on PS4 via CPX), because the pedals are quite horrible.
In the end the Fanatec user gave you a better advise. Try yourself. I still think that the CSL is a great piece of hardware, and definitely I won't sold it, but on (only) PS4, at the moment, has some limitation.
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Th cogging in the video is when the car was idle. When driving the delivery is very smooth. And again I can only compare to G29 and I tried t300 a few times. But it is something personal. I don’t mind the cogging when idle at all. But I can understand it might annoy some people. But like Kimi compatibility (at the moment of writing) was an issue and tijd the T-Gt pretty much plug and play. I work 6/7 days a week and have 2 small children, so no time for troubleshooting or tweaking. Thats why I game on console. If you also game on PC, it is a nobrainer I would have gone Fanatec.
Great proposition from Fanatec! Wish I got that offer before i got the T-GT!
I think it's subjective and depends on the person, even pro race drivers feel different things in the same car depending on what their body is most sensitive too.
The cogging is always there, whether or not you can feel it is another thing, for you FFB numbs your ability to feel it as I'm sure it does for most people.
I can feel the physical plastic bump stop (the black disc with a Fanatec logo) on the CSW V2 shaft jump slightly during fast direction changes but I've never seen anyone else comment on it. I notice lots of other odd things too as my hands are pretty sensitive, my feet on the other hand even driving in socks I stop being able to feel the vibration motor on the brake if I'm getting a lot through my hands.
The cogging is always there, whether or not you can feel it is another thing, for you FFB numbs your ability to feel it as I'm sure it does for most people.
I can feel the physical plastic bump stop (the black disc with a Fanatec logo) on the CSW V2 shaft jump slightly during fast direction changes but I've never seen anyone else comment on it. I notice lots of other odd things too as my hands are pretty sensitive, my feet on the other hand even driving in socks I stop being able to feel the vibration motor on the brake if I'm getting a lot through my hands.
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It is also very psychological. I never noticed the cogging on the G29 till I read about people being annoyed by it. At the beginning it started to annoy me. But then I concentrated less on it and more on the ffb information and it wasn’t an issue anymore. Because the feedback itself was delivered “smooth”, for a lack of better word. The only reason I upgraded is the obvious deadzone in the middle. Which probably is there because the g29 has 2 motors?!? Also it lacked speed or torque when recentering in some situation. Don’t know anybody with a Fanatec wheel to compare though. So maybe the Fanatec is buttery smooth compared to the thrustmaster lineup. But that won’t compensate the cons of compatibility for me personally. If the issues are solved I might pick up a CSL and try it, before deciding to sell of the T-GT.
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I returned mine for a couple reasons but the biggest one being the power cable. Mine doesn't fit snug and won't allow an update confirmation unless you hold it he male into the female receptacle manually. I got the wheel to confirm doing that and wasn't happy, I feel it was only going to get worse. error code
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